Secrets/Easter Eggs in Munch's Oddysee/Stranger's Wrath? -

Fuzzle Guy · #31 08-24-2009, 05:56 AM

You're not seriously asking me why the foot moon was crap, are you?

***Wil*** · #32 08-24-2009, 06:02 AM

I know it has received a fair few complaints. I know it comes across as tacked on and unnecessary. I know it lacks the spiritual vibe and plot-relevence of Abe's Moon. I know it is underplayed and bemusing. But this is Munch's Oddysee we're talking about. What in that game isn't quite accurately described by all the above?

Fuzzle Guy · #33 08-24-2009, 06:07 AM

The opening FMV until the Raisin makes his début appearance? That's real dark, gritty, depressing, classic Oddworld.

Josh · #34 08-24-2009, 06:23 AM

I wonder why the foot moon just appeard. Lorne said that he didn't want the paw moon to just appear, so why did he do it with the foot one?

***Wil*** · #35 08-24-2009, 06:30 AM

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The opening FMV until the Raisin makes his début appearance? That's real dark, gritty, depressing, classic Oddworld.

Golly, and that's the majority of the game.

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I wonder why the foot moon just appeard. Lorne said that he didn't want the paw moon to just appear, so why did he do it with the foot one?

He said he didn't want the moon to be suddenly created by an all-too-convenient meteor strike just as Abe was escaping from RuptureFarms. No more explanation is offered in the games for Abe's Moon than for Munch's Moon. They both appear suddenly (save for some cheeky previews in the Stockyards), it's just that one affects Abe, the other goes by without reaction by the main characters.

Fuzzle Guy · #36 08-24-2009, 06:36 AM

It's about as far as most people make it into the game before switching off.

Sekto Springs · #37 08-24-2009, 11:00 AM

I thought Abe's moon was an indication that the Mudokons were the chosen race. Is this really nothing more than a claim the Mudokons made years ago?

Also, wasn't each Quintology hero supposed to have his own moon? This puts a bit of a pisser on the whole "Only one moon with a giant hand-print" thing. Who is to say a Glukkon can't look up at any of the dozens of moons surrounding Oddworld, tilt their head, and squint to see their hand-print on a moon too?

Some people say there's a man in our moon, others say there's a rabbit. I see an Ostrich defecating on a dutch oven, and if I tilt my head, Andy Milonakis's spread ass cheeks. This Oddworld moon thing is a bunch of fluff, I say. FLUFF! Also shit.

Josh · #38 08-25-2009, 12:34 AM

To make the foot moon seem a LOT less shit, I shall say that it was formed by meteors and Vykkers Labs blocked it's view. Muds never saw it because when the saw Vykkers Labs they ran in the other direction. Gabbits never saw it because they can't see it from the sea. Vykkers hid it so that Gabbits would not get 'ideas' like the ancient Mudokons. Sligs, Khanzumers and Glukkons don't really care.

AlexFili · #39 08-25-2009, 12:44 AM

I hope that on one moon there is a Slig-tentacle-palm imprint.
Go Go Sligs!

BTW I'm going to play MO and SW this week, so I'll try and explore every area, to find any secrets... (Although it's probably futile to be honest).

RoryF · #40 08-25-2009, 03:48 AM

I remember in MO just after the big well cut-scene when Abe first meets Munch in the forests behind you there's some hint flies from AO.

***Nate*** · #41 08-25-2009, 04:04 AM

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To make the foot moon seem a LOT less shit, I shall say that it was formed by meteors and Vykkers Labs blocked it's view. Muds never saw it because when the saw Vykkers Labs they ran in the other direction. Gabbits never saw it because they can't see it from the sea. Vykkers hid it so that Gabbits would not get 'ideas' like the ancient Mudokons. Sligs, Khanzumers and Glukkons don't really care.

So you're saying that Vykker's lab is big enough to hide a moon from an entire continent, no matter where it is in the sky?

RoryF · #42 08-25-2009, 04:14 AM

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So you're saying that Vykker's lab is big enough to hide a moon from an entire continent, no matter where it is in the sky?

I was going to quote that. I say, it's not possible.

Josh · #43 08-25-2009, 07:28 AM

It make more sense than a moon coming out of nowhere.

RoryF · #44 08-25-2009, 07:55 AM

You are forgetting one thing josh... this is oddworld.

MA · #45 08-25-2009, 08:50 AM

the moon didn't 'come out of nowhere'. it was always there. the print was not.

Sekto Springs · #46 08-25-2009, 12:07 PM

In that case, does the Mudokon moon indicate Abe is the chosen one, or that Mudokons are the chosen race? If each hero gets his own moon, then it stands to reason that the moon is for that individual and not the whole mess of 'em. This makes sense in Munch's case, since he's the last fucking Gabbit alive.

Personally, I'd prefer a big moon that just said "Abe rulz" on it's face. Would make more sense at any rate.

RoryF · #47 08-25-2009, 12:19 PM

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In that case, does the Mudokon moon indicate Abe is the chosen one, or that Mudokons are the chosen race?

Abe is the chosen one. If mudokons were the chosen race you'd think they would of escaped rupturefarms ages ago. That would destroy the oddworld series.

AlexFili · #48 08-25-2009, 02:24 PM

It could just be like Lord of the Rings, where the only way to succeed against evil (Mordor) is to unite all the races together and form peace... so each race is important (Elves/Dwarves, Men/Elves, etc).

STM · #49 08-25-2009, 02:39 PM

An easy one is that Elum is backwards for Mule =D

***Wil*** · #50 08-25-2009, 04:31 PM

I can't work out whether the use of "Easter egg" in this thread is more or less bastardized than vBulletin's use of "infraction".

Hey, here's an Easter egg: Abe is a Mudokon! Mudokons are slaves!

Fuzzle Guy · #51 08-25-2009, 04:37 PM

I had always assumed an Easter Egg was an in-joke hidden in the game, which will make someone smile. The Paramite Pie's reference in Strangers Wrath, even the "Vykkers Labs: Coming Soon" in Abe's Exoddus. That could only have been put there for us fans to notice upon replaying Abe's Exoddus after Munch's release.

***Wil*** · #52 08-25-2009, 04:54 PM

One of the key things here is hidden, and another key thing is in-joke (or, more accurately, something the relevance of which is known only to the creator and a small number of other people). The Paramite Pie reference could arguably meet the first requirement, since there's presumably only one place in the game it's said, and the chances of hearing it... by chance... are slim. However, it's not an in-joke, it's a continuity reference than anyone familiar with Oddworld would get. Same applies to the hint flies and SoulStorm Brew bottles in MO, except they're not even hidden.

Now I took the topic of this thread to be inclusive of these continuity references. It is not inclusive of "Elum is Mule backwards," which is all I was really reacting to.

The face in AE is a brilliant Easter egg. No one here has been able to determine its real significance to the artist of that background, and it's so well hidden that it was only discovered a decade after the game's release.

Sekto Springs · #53 08-25-2009, 06:00 PM

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Abe is the chosen one. If mudokons were the chosen race you'd think they would of escaped rupturefarms ages ago. That would destroy the oddworld series.

Hardly. I doubt any of the Mudokons who work at Rupturefarms have ever even seen the outdoors. Its probably the same with all the factories and processing plants. Besides, RF has a constant, acrid cloud of smoke looming over it's entirety - so if a Mudokon ever actually got a chance to peek out the window, he'd likely see nothing but a black sky and industry terminating to the horizon.

Also if Abe is the chosen one, why did his moon appear so many years ahead of schedule? If it weren't for that damn moon, Glukkons and Mudokons would probably still have a good rapport.

AlexFili · #54 08-25-2009, 10:44 PM

Not to mention that they would have to look past the industrial smog, which was probably there all the time.

"The face in AE is a brilliant Easter egg. No one here has been able to determine its real significance to the artist of that background, and it's so well hidden that it was only discovered a decade after the game's release."

- What face would that be?

***Xavier*** · #55 08-25-2009, 11:40 PM

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What face would that be?

http://www.oddworldforums.net/showthread.php?t=18237

Josh · #56 08-26-2009, 01:58 AM

That is creepy.

RoryF · #57 08-26-2009, 03:41 AM

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Also if Abe is the chosen one, why did his moon appear so many years ahead of schedule? If it weren't for that damn moon, Glukkons and Mudokons would probably still have a good rapport.

1. The moon had to be ahead to tell him he was the chosen one.
2. You spelt report wrong.

3. The moon does not have a brain so it wouldn't know anything about a schedule.

***Nate*** · #58 08-26-2009, 04:53 AM

2. No, you spelled 'rapport' wrong.

RoryF · #59 08-26-2009, 05:00 AM

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2. No, you spelled 'rapport' wrong.

LOL! I'd never heard of the word when I posted Forget 2. Then.

Anyway I don't think MO had many easter eggs anyway! And plus the gamespeak feature doesn't work on my xbox 360 so I can't be asked to look for any.

MeechMunchie · #60 08-26-2009, 05:00 AM

Rapport is a word, it means a shared view or 'being on the same wavelength'. Stop trying to correct people, too. It's really annoying. I have to put up with people misspelling words too, but I don't see the point of trying to correct them when it doesn't really contribute anything important.

I love the boarded up door foor RuptureFarms in AE. It made me chuckle.

The moon may not 'know' about a schedule, but we're talking about the mystical alignments of fate here.

EDIT: Oh, Nate posted while I was typing.