Halo Wars -

Hobo · #31 02-10-2009, 12:31 PM

I know you said that, but then you made a completely different impression.

Also; who is to say no one has played it?

OANST · #32 02-10-2009, 01:54 PM

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Hating Halo without playing it is anti-mainstream. Also if you read one of my posts I said:

I played all three Halo games for reasons that I can not explain. I thought each one was worse than the last. Happy now? The story is fucking moronic and the gameplay is boring. Hence, I don't like it. I don't want to play it. I'm not being counter-culture. I just don't like it.

Venks · #33 02-10-2009, 05:48 PM

Oh ok. I thought you said you hadn't played it. I'm glad you make opinions for yourself unlike way too many people. Though Halo Wars is a completely different type of game play I can understand your detestation of the series to steer you away from this game.

Strike Witch · #34 02-10-2009, 11:14 PM

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I played all three Halo games for reasons that I can not explain. I thought each one was worse than the last. Happy now? The story is fucking moronic and the gameplay is boring. Hence, I don't like it. I don't want to play it. I'm not being counter-culture. I just don't like it.

It wasn't a bad story...

Then again, Doom's was retarded too.

OANST · #35 02-11-2009, 07:08 AM

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It wasn't a bad story...

The story was assinine. It made little sense and tried so hard to be more than it was. The political drama aspect of it felt like it was written by a person with down syndrome who had watched the first season of DS9.

Slig-13 · #36 02-11-2009, 08:17 AM

halo got worse as it went on and to be honest, i really don't have high hopes for this game!! i'm not saying it's going to be shitty though! and i should really get my sexbox live back up and running so i can atleast get the demo :P

Strike Witch · #37 02-11-2009, 11:28 AM

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The story was assinine. It made little sense and tried so hard to be more than it was. The political drama aspect of it felt like it was written by a person with down syndrome who had watched the first season of DS9.

There was political drama?

OANST · #38 02-11-2009, 11:30 AM

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There was political drama?

Exactly.

Daxter King · #39 02-11-2009, 01:48 PM

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The story was assinine. It made little sense and tried so hard to be more than it was. The political drama aspect of it felt like it was written by a person with down syndrome who had watched the first season of DS9.

The only problem I have with Halo's storyline is it takes itself too seriously. Like it isn't some sort of cheesy Sci-Fi story, but something more, this is why I consider the Gears Universe to have a better story, they know that the story isn't going to be taken seriously.*

*When Maria died, that was the saddest moment of any videogame ever though for me.

Venks · #40 02-11-2009, 08:58 PM

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The only problem I have with Halo's storyline is it takes itself too seriously. Like it isn't some sort of cheesy Sci-Fi story, but something more, this is why I consider the Gears Universe to have a better story, they know that the story isn't going to be taken seriously.*

*When Maria died, that was the saddest moment of any videogame ever though for me.

lol you're kidding right? I like the Gears story somewhat, but for the mysterious Locust. Not the half-baked Dom's wife thing. You go the whole first game without a mention of this woman, but suddenly throughout the second game Dom won't stop crying about her. I found the mystery of Marcus Fenix's father far more interesting then the < insert dramatic romance here > sub plot.

I mean the first game starts off with Marcus being in jail for insubordination for going off to save his father. The Locust are winning the war so even criminals are being freed to help out. Humanity is at risk. In the second game you find out more about the Locust that just came out of the ground from nowhere. In the secret facility place, that even the military apparently don't know much about, The Locust show up unexpectantly and it makes you wonder if they are related to the sires. Though by looking in the predictability book the story behind the Locust is prolly similar to that of Final Fantasy 7 Dirge of Cerberus. The Lambent add a nice twist to a predictable story and the Locust's Queen resemblance and her mentioning of Marcus's father leave you guessing. But darn when ever someone says the Gears story is better due to that stupid inserted sub plot I just want to bash my head in. That and Gears tries way too hard to make Marcus look like a tough guy. I'm all for being tough but when vehicles come crashing in front of me you wouldn't find me standing JUST out of range.

I also was really into Halo's story until Halo 3. They give everything a way which made me sad. There was no more speculating to do. Though their still are some things to discover about ONI so I'll be looking forward to Halo 3: ODST. I mean Halo does follow the usual sci-fi story: Humankind is about to be wiped out, pull out the last resorts! Yay we're winning now!
However I find the Spartans incredibly interesting. All these 6 year old kids are kidnapped by the military due to special genes they happen to have. Then these kids are put through physical training that would kill me. So as these kids grow up they know nothing of love or what a normal life even is. They are just taught how to fight wars all their life. As if that wasn't bad enough they have to go through this experiment which kills or paralyzes about half of them. All that training did nothing to save them. The paralyzed ones would be stuck in chairs the rest of their lives unable to hang with the only people they ever felt comfortable with. The end result was this ultimate fighting force of Spartans, but in present day their are only like four of them left. What will they do now that the war is over? Can they ever possibly fit in with the rest of humanity?

I freakin love Halo's story: http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=13233687

Strike Witch · #41 02-12-2009, 12:09 AM

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Exactly.

No, seriously, what politics? The military UNSC did whatever the fuck it wanted.

squeak117 · #42 02-12-2009, 01:58 AM

Alright, I just have to say that I enjoy Halo alot. The Halo series is one of my favourites. I enjoy the universe in which it is set, I enjoy the story, and I especially enjoy the gameplay. I could be considered a "fanboy" in that I've read as many of the books as I've been bothered to get my hands on and I like to make a point of the quality in the games, not in the way that I think Xbox 360 and Halo and Bungie are the best ever and everyone should like them.

People can go on about how much they don't like it all they want. However, and I've made a point of this many times elsewhere, when people says they hate something and then make out that anyone who likes it is a moron with horrible tastes, they make themselves appear completely arrogant and pretentious... and I know a few.

I've had people literally look at me in disgust when I mention that I like Halo. These are the same people that everyone gets the shits with when they walk into the classroom spouting every possible 'fact' about some 1930s film they make themselves out to enjoy because it would mean they have 'reformed tastes', making them better than anyone else, to their 'friends' who don't really give two shits. And then lie about having a girlfriend for good measure.

And for the topic... I was a little worried about Halo Wars. I always thought the units in Halo would make for a good RTS, but releasing it only for console was, in my opinion, a pretty strange choice. Although, the closer it is coming to release, the more I want to play it and see how it goes. I've seen people with bad expectations saying how surprised they were with the demo. I suppose you could see that as 'it could be average and they'd like it', but either way, if I'm not going to purchase this for the gameplay, I will purchase it for the cutscenes and the storyline.

OANST · #43 02-12-2009, 04:55 AM

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lol you're kidding right? I like the Gears story somewhat, but for the mysterious Locust. Not the half-baked Dom's wife thing. You go the whole first game without a mention of this woman, but suddenly throughout the second game Dom won't stop crying about her. I found the mystery of Marcus Fenix's father far more interesting then the < insert dramatic romance here > sub plot.
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They actually did foreshadow the whole Maria thing in the first game. The stranded who lends them the car says that he's had no luck in finding "the lady".

Ghost: The rift in the covenant (which takes up quite a bit of the story) could be called political drama. It could be called that if it was better written.

AlienMagi · #44 02-12-2009, 06:00 AM

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/Disliker of shit games regardless of who does or does not like it.

HAH HAH translated this one with google translate in my langague! xD Laughed like for 20 min.

Venks · #45 02-12-2009, 06:38 AM

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They actually did foreshadow the whole Maria thing in the first game. The stranded who lends them the car says that he's had no luck in finding "the lady".

Oh snap I never noticed that. That makes it slightly not as lame. Still lame, but not quite as much.

Hobo · #46 02-12-2009, 09:31 AM

What, I thought it was quite obvious that the Maria thing was forshadowed.

Strike Witch · #47 02-12-2009, 11:48 AM

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They actually did foreshadow the whole Maria thing in the first game. The stranded who lends them the car says that he's had no luck in finding "the lady".

Ghost: The rift in the covenant (which takes up quite a bit of the story) could be called political drama. It could be called that if it was better written.

I guess, but that was more "Raarg we still hate you dudes cuz you used to beat us up in the school yard" by the Prophets.

Daxter King · #48 02-12-2009, 02:03 PM

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WALL OF TEXT

Epic knew they did a bad job on the first game's story, they did as good as job as they could to actually make it interesting. Regardless of whether you think Maria is foreshadowed or not, it feels far more important than most anything Halo does in the games. The second in a trilogy always leaves more questions than answers, or it wont be a trilogy, I expect Epic to expand on the Sires alot in the third game. Thats where Halo really dropped the ball, the third in the Trilogy really dropped alot of the story. They didn't expand on the Covenant breaking up, even though in Halo 2 there are Hunters and Grunts that fight by your side. The story felt extremely shallow and pretentious. Gears 2 was almost the opposite, deep enough to keep you interested, but it knew that it wasn't going to be the next Star Wars or Trek. I don't read the Halo books, so I can't comment on those, Im talking about the games only here.

Something On Topic- Halo Wars story seems far more interesting than the rest of the Halo games right now.

mitsur · #49 02-12-2009, 04:24 PM

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They actually did foreshadow the whole Maria thing in the first game. The stranded who lends them the car says that he's had no luck in finding "the lady".

I call bullshit. That's not foreshadowing, that's putting in something that won't make any sense at all until you've played Gears 2.

Venks · #50 02-13-2009, 06:56 AM

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Epic knew they did a bad job on the first game's story, they did as good as job as they could to actually make it interesting. Regardless of whether you think Maria is foreshadowed or not, it feels far more important than most anything Halo does in the games. The second in a trilogy always leaves more questions than answers, or it wont be a trilogy, I expect Epic to expand on the Sires alot in the third game. Thats where Halo really dropped the ball, the third in the Trilogy really dropped alot of the story. They didn't expand on the Covenant breaking up, even though in Halo 2 there are Hunters and Grunts that fight by your side. The story felt extremely shallow and pretentious. Gears 2 was almost the opposite, deep enough to keep you interested, but it knew that it wasn't going to be the next Star Wars or Trek. I don't read the Halo books, so I can't comment on those, Im talking about the games only here.

Something On Topic- Halo Wars story seems far more interesting than the rest of the Halo games right now.

Halo 2 originally had much more going on to show the 'rift of the covenant.' But then there were dead lines for a console defining game. You really should check out the books sometime. It really adds a lot more story to the Halo universe.

OANST · #51 02-13-2009, 10:04 AM

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I call bullshit. That's not foreshadowing, that's putting in something that won't make any sense at all until you've played Gears 2.

That's what foreshadowing is. Mostly.

It made sense at the time. They just didn't let on that it was going to be a big part of the story.

Again, I do not think that Gears is the height of storytelling. Far from it. But it's better than Halo.

Venks · #52 02-15-2009, 06:38 PM

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That's what foreshadowing is. Mostly.

It made sense at the time. They just didn't let on that it was going to be a big part of the story.

Again, I do not think that Gears is the height of storytelling. Far from it. But it's better than Halo.

Really? Gears story is prominently: Aliens are bad. Shoot them.

Daxter King · #53 02-15-2009, 06:48 PM

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Really? Gears story is prominently: Aliens are bad. Shoot them.

You clearly have not played much of Gears. The story is : The Molemen are bad. Shoot them.

Venks · #54 02-15-2009, 08:02 PM

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You clearly have not played much of Gears. The story is : The Molemen are bad. Shoot them.

I mean yeah. They do come out of the ground, but when discussing them I've never heard of them referred to as 'mole-men'. Always aliens. They look the part.

Hobo · #55 02-16-2009, 01:16 PM

Alien implies not from this world. Can't get more from this world than the centre.

Also; Gears is WAY more story driven than Halo. And that's saying something.

Mac Sirloin · #56 02-23-2009, 08:17 AM

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You clearly have not played much of Gears. The story is : The Molemen are bad. Shoot them.

If I ever play Gears online again I'm going to call Horde 'Molemen assault trial'.

Bullet Magnet · #57 03-04-2009, 02:32 PM

The whole "this game versus that game"-"mainstream versus anti-mainstream" argument makes me feel so very tired.

OANST · #58 03-06-2009, 07:34 AM

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The whole "this game versus that game"-"mainstream versus anti-mainstream" argument makes me feel so very tired.

Then why did you bring back a thread that hadn't been posted in for two weeks? Hmmmm? Hmmmmmmm?

Explain that with your science.

Bullet Magnet · #59 03-06-2009, 12:53 PM

It was marked "unread". So I read it. Lo and behold, I was tired, and overtaken by the urge to tell everybody.

OANST · #60 03-06-2009, 01:10 PM

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It was marked "unread". So I read it. Lo and behold, I was tired, and overtaken by the urge to tell everybody.

The science of this does not add up to scrutiny.