Oddworld Questions & Answers VII

[MeechShrykull1029]

Wouldn't Elum statues make Elum sacred?

[Slaveless]

No. I could make a statue out of Chuck Norris, but that doesn't make him anymore sacred than he already is.

Elums are probably been considered a valued animal to the Mudokons. Perhaps the same way horses are to humans. So maybe they are sacred, but I don't think quite as so like Scrabs or Paramites. They might be, but I guess we don't know.

[MeechShrykull1029]

Since Monsaic Lines are holy caves of the Native Mudokons, an Elum statue in Monsaic Lines would make elum sacred.

[Slaveless]

Last I checked, that screen showing an Elum wasn't there. Therefore, it doesn't mean Elum is sacred.

Also, there are places that are considered holy, and have statues of people that aren't necessarily sacred.

[MeechShrykull1029]

I already said that the screen wasn't in the game. Also, holy places on Earth aren't the same as holy places on Oddworld. And anyway, people make statues of their own species in holy places, because it's their own species, and Mudokons and Elums are different species.

[Wil]

One of the Weirdos has a head dress that pays tribute to Fleeches, but Mudokons don’t worship Fleeches. A statue tribute to Elum would not make him any more sacred than any other wildlife.

[Slaveless]

Yes, but humans make statues of people for different reasons. Some represent the divinity of people. Others represent the importance of person. Now, just because there was a statue of Elum in the Mosaic Lines, does not mean that Elum are sacred. It just shows their obvious importance.

EDIT: Max got to here first.

[MeechShrykull1029]

The Elum statue was canceled from the game!

[Wings of Fire]

Because OWI probably thought it wouldnt look right, as you yourself have stated many times.

[OddYouko]

Is this from Munch's Oddysee? Cause if it is there's an Elum in the picture. I didn't notice the Mudokon riding him looks just like Abe getting off of Elum in AO.
Which clip was this from or was it taking out too?

[Nate]

It's not from a clip - it's a production sketch of how a mud village would look.

Mudokons have used Elums for generations for all manner of work: hunting, traveling, scouting.

[Zerox]

The three Weirdos confused me. Though it says Vykkers modified Fleeches as Glukkon pets, one of the weirdos has a crown tribute as the others have Paramite and Scrab ones. Considering the Weirdos are likely from ancient times, it seems unlikely Fleeches existed then if purely created by Vykkers, and why would Mudokons worship them anyway, possibly at almost the same level as Scrabs and Paramites. Are Fleeches actually created by Vykkers, or have only their behaviour been modified? A genetically created creature flushed down sewers wouldn't be worshipped by age-old Mudokons. And if Fleeches have been modified, would that be the entire population now, or just some of what we've seen?

Really wish OWI had made it clearer...maybe I should send an email.

[Bullet Magnet]

There was a wild-type strain of fleech that was used as a base for the Vykkerz genetic manipulation.

[Zerox]

So what happened to them? We didn't see them in AE, we presumably only saw the modified forms since that's what it said in the game manual.

Maybe it was only behavioural modifications in younger life. Can't really tell can we?

[Wil]

It’s basically fanon. We know Vykkers ‘created’ the Fleeches we’ve seen, but we also know Fleeches are wildlife, not just now, but long ago when the Weirdos were having their head dresses tailored. This is our attempt to explain this discrepancy.

[mudling]

Interesting why the third headress isn't dedicated to the meeches, I mean, they would be around at that time wouldn't they?

[kin37ik]

You serious? I thought it was only available by a publishing co-orperation in Australia, online.
But if that doesn't work, you can always order one.

well, i am in australia, and my book came in 3 days, talk about a speedy delivery!

[Zozo the Zrilufet]

Am I the only one who thinks the Stranger manual said that boombats live for 24 hours, hence their wiilingness to go boom?

[Bullet Magnet]

Riotslugs in mine.

[Wil]

Boombats’ willingness to go boom is because, if they don’t do it sooner, they could take their whole colony out in one large aplosion. Meeches were confined to the area surrounding RuptureFarms. They might not have been found in Necrum, but apparently Fleeches were.

[MeechShrykull1029]

Maybe wild Fleeches are young Meeches.

[Wings of Fire]

I think not.

[Xavier]

I can't see that work either, sorry...

where would that second mounth go?

[Bullet Magnet]

Not far, I'm sure. Ahem.

[MeechShrykull1029]

I can't see that work either, sorry...

where would that second mounth go?

Meeches could grow from Fleeches just like some insects grow from larvae. And anyway, no one really knows all the Meeches' body parts.

[Wings of Fire]

In AE I got the definite impression that the Meech population was almost extinct, yet the Fleech population was stable or even increasing due to the greater demand of their young as pets for the Glukkons.

As Fleeches (Or Fleechs or whatever the plural is) are not killed but flushed and are very much alive in sewers or the necropoli of Necrum I cannot see how the Meech population would not be stable.

Your logic has more holes in than BM would after a day at the Slig Barracks.

[Bullet Magnet]

The biggest problem with that idea is the meeches' current IUCN status of EX: Extinct.


Or else it would be like calling the white cabbage moth extinct after they've all died off, despite the hordes of caterpillars munching through your cabbage patch.

[MeechShrykull1029]

The only Fleeches in Abe's Exoddus are Vykker-made Fleeches. I said that wild Fleeches are young Meeches. Maybe Vykker-made Fleeches were an attempt to bring back Meeches for Meech Munchies, but it didn't work.

[Wings of Fire]

Vykkers originally engineered Fleeches to be the perfect pets for Glukkons,

Seems self explanatory to me.

[MeechShrykull1029]

There was a wild-type strain of fleech that was used as a base for the Vykkerz genetic manipulation.

There, see?