The Stolen Generation (Yes, another Australians only thread)

moxco · #1 02-13-2008, 11:23 AM

This is the biggest piece of bullshit I've ever heard.

Lately the Abbos have been harassing Ole' Kevo to apologize for somthin' that he was 100% against and happened before he was even born. So why the hell did he scream sorry into a microphone 6 times.

The other thing thats annoying me is how happy the Abbos are getting. Just because he said sorry. Saying sorry isn't changing anything, not like his giving money to them or anything.

Can someone give me there views on it.

Strike Witch · #2 02-13-2008, 11:44 AM

How about "Shut the fuck up you rascist bastard".

Wings of Fire · #3 02-13-2008, 11:50 AM

It took till Ghost's response for me to see through your horrible, horrible dialect but I must agree with her.

Idiot.

***Nate*** · #4 02-13-2008, 12:31 PM

He said it three times. Do your research.
The Australian government systematically TOOK CHILDREN FROM THEIR PARENTS! It doesn't matter how good their intentions are, that is evil.
It doesn't matter whether the current government was involved; this was something done by the Australian government (which is an ongoing institution) and is a black spot on our nation. My ancestors weren't even in Australia when this was mainly going on but still I feel guilt about it as an Australian.
It is a purely symbolic action, an attempt to start making up for the many wrongs done to the Aboriginal peoples.
Kevin was not forced by some supposed Aboriginal lobby group. He was forced by the nation of Australia, who voted for him. In any case, this is something that he has promised to do for quite some time and that the Labor Party itself promised to do from when it first became an issue ten years ago.

I don't think you're racist. I think you're just an ignorant, immature child who needs to sit down and read and learn before forming an opinion.

On another note: did the apology make news anywhere else around the world?

Mojo · #5 02-13-2008, 12:45 PM

It did here. Which is odd, since the Ozzies are like on the opposite end of the world

I think he IS a racist though...

EDIT: Ooh, finally made the

smilie work :P

Bullet Magnet · #6 02-13-2008, 12:51 PM

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On another note: did the apology make news anywhere else around the world?

Yes. Which felt odd because I had thought that they had already apologised.

Slaveless · #7 02-13-2008, 02:03 PM

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On another note: did the apology make news anywhere else around the world?

Yes, it did here. It was actually one of the main articales in the newspaper.

Leto · #8 02-13-2008, 08:45 PM

The abbos deserve repirations of some kind. The Maori, however, should shut the fuck up.

Salamander · #9 02-13-2008, 10:06 PM

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The abbos deserve repirations of some kind. The Maori, however, should shut the fuck up.

Are you serious?

Marvak · #10 02-14-2008, 01:31 AM

Nate pretty much said it all.
And personally, I rather disapprove of the term 'Abbo'. It's like calling someone a 'Nigger' back in the 60's.
I hate to say it, but Aborigines are one of the most disadvantaged racial groups in the world. That's right, while so many people think that things like poverty and starvation only happen in places like remote Africa, it's happening right here in outback Australia! To this very day!
I certainly hope that it gets cleared up very soon. Or at least, as soon as it can. It's simply awful.

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Just in case there's someone who didn't see it.

***Alcar*** · #11 02-14-2008, 01:42 AM

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On another note: did the apology make news anywhere else around the world?

Indeedly so it did indeed here in lovely London. How about over in Jerusalem?

Alcar...

***Nate*** · #12 02-14-2008, 05:43 AM

Well... I haven't been paying attention to the news.

moxco · #13 02-14-2008, 11:30 AM

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He said it three times. Do your research.
The Australian government systematically TOOK CHILDREN FROM THEIR PARENTS! It doesn't matter how good their intentions are, that is evil.
It doesn't matter whether the current government was involved; this was something done by the Australian government (which is an ongoing institution) and is a black spot on our nation. My ancestors weren't even in Australia when this was mainly going on but still I feel guilt about it as an Australian.
It is a purely symbolic action, an attempt to start making up for the many wrongs done to the Aboriginal peoples.
Kevin was not forced by some supposed Aboriginal lobby group. He was forced by the nation of Australia, who voted for him. In any case, this is something that he has promised to do for quite some time and that the Labor Party itself promised to do from when it first became an issue ten years ago.

1. Saying: 'We apologize" counts as saying sorry.

2. Oh for the love of good; where did I say: "I think it's a great idea to take children from the families", of coarse It's horrible thing.

3. Why should the government say sorry for something the opposition did years ago. So shouldn't liberal party say sorry not the ALP.

4. The government was apologizing for the stolen generation. Nothing Else.

5.The Aborigines have been sending the government letters requesting for a 'sorry' for years now

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while so many people think that things like poverty and starvation only happen in places like remote Africa, it's happening right here in outback Australia! To this very day!

Sure there is petrol sniffing, drug dealing and even gang attacks but very few aborigines are effected by poverty.

Wings of Fire · #14 02-14-2008, 11:47 AM

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1. Saying: 'We apologize" counts as saying sorry.

2. Oh for the love of good; where did I say: "I think it's a great idea to take children from the families", of coarse It's horrible thing.

3. Why should the government say sorry for something the opposition did years ago. So shouldn't liberal party say sorry not the ALP.

4. The government was apologizing for the stolen generation. Nothing Else.

5.The Aborigines have been sending the government letters requesting for a 'sorry' for years now

Sure there is petrol sniffing, drug dealing and even gang attacks but very few aborigines are effected by poverty.

1, He meant the amount of times he said it meaning you don't know your facts.

3, It doesn't work like that, if it did everyone could forgive and forget etc etc. The fact is the government condoned the action so the government has to apologise for the action. Not the individual party

4, Actually I watched the video clip and thats not all he did, watch it again (or indeed watch it).

5, So have the other peoples of Australia.

6, I don't know a huge amount about the social situation in Australia but if it is like America in any way then I'm guessing your wrong and also what you said was in complete condradiction to the news clip.

Next time bring some evidence with you

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***Wil*** · #15 02-14-2008, 02:15 PM

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On another note: did the apology make news anywhere else around the world?

No idea, but it made Language Log, which has replaced Fortean Times as my only source of news besides New Scientist.

***Alcar*** · #16 02-14-2008, 02:22 PM

You're as bad as those who only digest the tabloids. The more angles you get on a story, the easier it is for you to discern what is the truth.

Alcar...

***Nate*** · #17 02-15-2008, 01:15 AM

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1. Saying: 'We apologize" counts as saying sorry.

I'll concede that this is splitting hairs but it was the word 'sorry' that everyone felt was meaningful.

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2. Oh for the love of good; where did I say: "I think it's a great idea to take children from the families", of coarse It's horrible thing.

I never said you did. I was emphasising why the apology was so important.

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3. Why should the government say sorry for something the opposition did years ago. So shouldn't liberal party say sorry not the ALP.

For one thing, this was a program that occurred over a century, from approximately 1869 to 1969 - both parties were involved. In any case, the parties are unimportant. It was the Australian Parliament and Government who enacted these policies and thus it is those institutions who must apologise. What's more, as I was trying to say in my previous post, you can't just blame the parliament; they are the elected representatives of the nation of Australia and, as such, the guilt lies upon the entire country.

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4. The government was apologizing for the stolen generation. Nothing Else.

I said 'start'. The Stolen Generation is but one of the many issues facing relations between the Aborigines and the rest of Australia. By apologising, it allows the communities to move forward and focus on the issues of today.

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5.The Aborigines have been sending the government letters requesting for a 'sorry' for years now

As have most of white Australia. And they're full within their rights to do so, seeing as we're a democracy.

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Sure there is petrol sniffing, drug dealing and even gang attacks but very few aborigines are effected by poverty.

So having no money and entire communities unemployed and on the dole doesn't count as poverty?