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12-16-2001, 09:56 AM
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Zone Of the Enders

I went down to Apollo (British vid/DVD/game rental chain shop) yesterday, hoping to find SSX Tricky or Jak and Daxter. Sadly, my local branch is absolutely tiny, and they only ever have about 12 different PS2 games on the shelves at any one time! I might've had better luck if I'd walked down to Teddington, which is only 20 minutes walk away from Hampton Hill (the most boring, and probably the smallest, village in the LoBRuT), and has an Apollo shop about six times the size. However, I really couldn't be bothered, and I scanned the shelves for the fourth or fifth time, hopefully looking for something I could rent for three days (games are four quid for three days, which isn't bad considering they charge 3.50 a night for films!). Sadly, despite there being at least 60 PSOne games on the shelves, I had played most of them! And the remainder were shoddy titles which were mostly movie tie-ins. And I still haven't got my N64 up and running, despte having bought it around 2 months ago, so the shelfload of 40-odd Nintendo titles was out of the question. However, I had a fiver burning a hole in my pocket, and I was pondering whether to get something I hadn't seen and might or might not like (Evolution) for one night, or get something I knew I liked (SSX) for three nights.
And then I saw the ZOE box on the shelf, and decided I might as well rent it. I'd pondered whether or not to get at least the last four times in visiting Apollo, and despite the fact that OPS2M gave it a 9/10, I was wary of branching out into something new, especially a genre I had never played before and had no idea whether I'd like. But yesterday I decided why not, and borrowed the thing, thinking that if I didn't like it there was always the hour-long MGS2 demo to play with.

I didn't need it at all! ZOE is one of the best titles I've ever seen! Obviously, the graphics are superb (what else would you possibly expec from a game that runs on a 128-bit console?), but the gameplay is very engaging and very addictive. The story is saga-like and unfolds during gameplay. I was expecting it to be 'fly to town, kill bad guys, fly to next town, kill more bad guys, etc', but it isn't like that at all. The tasks you have to fulfil are very different and challenging, sometimes to the point of frustration, but once you work out what you were doing wrong and successfully complete it, you'll feel like a god! And a god in a 75-foot flying killing machine, come to that! This game really makes me want an Orbital Frame of my own (though I've no idea what I'd do with it, or where I'd keep it for that matter).
The controls seem so difficult at first, but after just 5 minutes, they literally become as intuitive as breathing. My only gripe is that I'm really glad I rented it instead of buying it. I completed it in less than 6 hours! It lasted me from Saturday to Sunday, but only because I started playinh at 3:50 pm on Saturday. If I'd started playing in the morning; I'd've done it in a day. So I'd be really cheesed off if I'd spend 40 quid on the real thing. But when it goes platinum and is on sale for only 15 or 20 quid, it'll definitely be worth a full purchase. The ending made me cry a bit, too, but I won't spoil it here.

And that MGS2 demo isn't half bad either.
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12-16-2001, 01:09 PM
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Yes, sadly, I bought the game... $50... Anyway, once I played the MGS2 demo all of my sadness was gone. It was the main reason that I got ZOE. But now I have the full game of MGS2 so I sold ZOE to my friend a few months ago.

The ending made you cry? I haven't beaten the game, but I just can't see how that game can make you cry... That little kid is SO ANNOYING!!! "Oh, we can't kill it if it's not gonna kill us! Wah! I'm a little whiny bitch!"

Anyhoo, go out and buy Devil May Cry. That is one KICK-ASS GAME! You say you like Zone of Enders? Get Devil May Cry, and you'll be all like, "Zone of Whatnow?" The action is so intense and awesome. If you don't believe me, then go rent it. After you rent it, you will buy it. And unlike ZOE, this game takes about 10-15 hours to beat. Trust me, you will love Devil May Cry!
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12-16-2001, 01:39 PM
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With the combination of Graphics and Gameplay Zone of Enders was the first real quality PS2 game I owned...

Yes Brown-san, the English voice acting was extra annoying in this game, but you shouldn't let that ruin the game for you.

I guess I'm fond of the ole' Beat-em-Up games akin to Final Fight and Streets of Rage and this game was like a 3D-360 version of that but with mecha, great gameplay and graphics.

And yes again it suffered from new-next-gen syndrom and was extremely short...however if they tacked on a few more hours of gameplay and some more bonus stuff (like VS mode) I would argue (and do anyway) that it's one of THE best games around.
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12-16-2001, 02:45 PM
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Yes, the voice acting annoyed me too. I'd've preferred it if they'd subbed instead of dubbed it. And Leo's voice is very annoying and whiny, but it's nice to see a main character with morals and unwillingness to take life, unlike some gung-ho videogame heroes who seem to enjoy killing.

The ending was very sad (warning... I'm spoiling it now; if you don't want to know the ending don't read the rest of this post). We never find out if Leo or Celvice's parents have survived, ADA has to take Jehuty on a suicide mission, just as she (it?) was becoming almost sentient and friends with Leo, and Viola dies, which is sad even tough she's a villain, because she was beginning to redeem herself towards the end; and she dies in quite a horrible way.

On a less sad note; you never finish battling Anubis! It proves too powerful for Jehuty, so you escape in an FMV. I wanted to get some new kick-ass weaponry and fight it to the death! And I wanted to get a teleporting ability like it has, too. Bum.

My little brother likes the game almost as much as I do, which is weird because it's a 15, but he's scared of AO and AE!
It's not particularly violent as far as videogames go... I think it's only a 15 because Leo says 'hell' and 'damn', which is pretty tame compared to what most people would be saying in his situation!
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12-18-2001, 03:55 PM
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Just a silly thing I knocked up. I really wanted to draw an Orbital Frame, but ended up combining it with Oddworld as well. So this is what I reckon Frames would look like if they were made for Glukkons.

If Oddworld met Zone Of Enders...
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Hey that's cool

here's something to think about: The girl sits on Leo's lap throughout the WHOLE game..hmm...
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Thankee.

I always assumed the cockpit was a two-seater. It looks big enough.
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Considering where it is, the word cockpit is very appropriate in this game. Emphasis on the COCK part...
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"Are you about to take off, or are you just happy to see me?"

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12-18-2001, 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by One, Two, Middlesboogie:
Thankee.
I always assumed the cockpit was a two-seater. It looks big enough.
Doesn't look that big to me. She gets in his lap at the begining and to me I don't see ANY room for two people so she has to sit in his lap the whole time...it's no big deal I don't *really* think that way anyhoo.

There has to be a sequel! I'm all for ambiguous story plots (like Eva and Lain) but at least those had resolutions (sort of), ZOE leaves ya hanging not knowing the fates of mostly any of the main characters.

The next game should play exactly like this one only here is my wishlist:
Longer (duh)
Variety of enemies (not just Raptors&MummyHeads)
New Weapons (possibly w/more importance & use)
SUBTITLES! No more whiney Leo!! Damnit...

Everything after longer is really just wishfull willing but as long as there IS a sequel and it's a bit longer than the original then I'll be happy.

I might invest in a GameBoy Advance to play the next "sequel" of the ZOE name. It's more like a turn based RTS game than mech sim.

Also I've seen clips from the anime but have not yet seen it, I haven't tried very hard to find any because I thought it would have been released in the U.S. by now...hmm, this topic has rekindled my interest now so I'm going to have to go play a few levels and look for the Anime...thanks Middle-san!
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I think that since they have a cockpit, they should have two ballpits.

lol. Okay, enough jokes about the cockpit looking like a penis. But, damn... What were the designers thinking? Putting the cockpit between the legs... Hanging there... It goes up and sticks out when it takes off... It's like they WANTED people to laugh at the game...
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Probably was made to be that way, a joke for those mature enough to get it. The pun also works very well...

Maybe we'll see Booby Traps next time...
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Bah, I loved Silent hill 2 (probably one of my favorite games of all time now) MUCH more then ZOE or MGS2. Yeash, SH2 was so creepy.. eugh, just thinkin' about it gives me the heebie-jeebies..
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Wha? About ZOE, or MGS2? Personally, I liked ZOE (A little short and a sappy ending though), but I'm a sucker for games with complex plots (not to mention I'm a huge horror junkie) And besides, I've always hated the Metal Gear series. I dunno why, maybe I just get sick of hearing about by the time it comes out, or maybe I just think that sneaking around holding up guards for dog tags is kinda boring. lol, I still love the entirely overdramatic voice acting.
"Raiden?! Respond! Raiden! RAAAAAAIIIIDDEEEN!" that wacky plisken. (The best bad voice acting goes to Resident Evil 1 though, Barry just takes the cake. "You were almost a Jill sandwich!" indeed.
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No sorry, I didn't mean about any game I just meant you seem to have a real negative attitude in your recent post...but oh well. It's cool, i'm over it

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Originally posted by Eibu:
[B]No sorry, I didn't mean about any game I just meant you seem to have a real negative attitude in your recent post...but oh well. It's cool, i'm over it

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Well studying for finals gets me all edgy..
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