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05-14-2007, 04:25 PM
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To MF:
"Political correctness (often abbreviated to PC) is a term used to describe language or behavior which is intended, or said to be intended, to provide a minimum of offense, particularly to racial, cultural, or other identity groups. A text that conforms to the ideals of political correctness is said to be politically correct."
Taken from Wiki. A better example that doesn't involve the Religion of Peace would be the term BCE, or Before Common Era. It is an "alternative" to the traditional term BC used to denote dates before the approximate birth of Christ. It is designed to not offend thin skinned non-Christians who object to referring to dates around the Christian God. Now, I'm fine with that, but the ridiculous part comes when they are not changing the starting point and still basing the system around the approximate birth of Christ. That is like calling a dog a dingo in order to avoid canidocentricism, or a Christian a Jew to avoid theocentrism. It is dishonest to label that which is Christian as non Christian. Also, I do not think the tail should wag the dog, and in this case it is an extremely small group of offended people demanding society change it's major dating systems to please them. Before you respond that is the same argument made against gay marriage, remember that while marriage IS a changing institution (polygamy, divorce, age of marriage, conditions for marriage, interracial marriage) the approximate birth and death of a real person (be it that you consider him YHVH or not) is not. I think language should remain practical, honest, and wieldy, and not pander to the interests of tiny, vocal groups, be they Christian fundies, Muslims, black people, white people, gay people, straight people, or atheist xylophone clowns who have sex in automobiles.

So a mankind, hymn, BC, AD, negro, and Mohammedan to you.

And as I stated, I am like Stattik (without the bloggish posts) because I share political views that are as extreme as his, only they are to the right., whereas his are to the left. Both he and I can sometimes be long winded, preachy, and self righteous in expoundign our political views, but I tend to provide more references, whereas he tends to provide personal experience, which is understandable, given he has been a man for 2 years (judging by the fact he is 20) and I have not.

Anyway, back on topic;
This gun threat makes me think that maybe this (http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1033/1033_01.asp) Jackkk Chickkk tract might of had a point. Weird cycle though. Teens (Columbine), adults (Virginia Tech), kids (this, although no one was hurt).
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05-14-2007, 04:57 PM
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Hehe that reminds me of that joke from Pursuit of Happiness.

Where tha guy is drowning in the ocean and a boat comes up to him, the guy in the boat tries to save him, but the drowning man says, "No thanks God will save me."
Another boat comes by and tries to save him, the drowning man says, "No thanks God will save me."

The man drowns and goes to heaven, he asks God, "Why didn't you save me lord?"
God replies, "I sent you two boats dummy!"
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05-14-2007, 06:47 PM
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PV: I've never seen anyone advocate changing the common usage terms to CE and BCE; I've only ever seen them used in a by-Jew for-Jew context. Either way, the terms are used to reflect the way western society uses dates (thus Common Era and Before Common Era) so using some other calendar would be pointless and uncommunicative.

And as for your point about birthdates being a fixed point in time; it's widely accepted that Jesus was born in approximately the years 4 to 8 BC so it's a fairly arbitrary counting system anyway.
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