I just gotta know.......

Xx_Abe_xX · #1 02-09-2007, 10:57 AM

There's something that's been bugging me for a long time. Is a slig like, a slug that stole a paramites face? Or is a paramite a cockaroach with a slig head? Or do either of them have anything to do with each other at all?

Jordan · #2 02-09-2007, 11:47 AM

Hm... Good question. I don't think they are related any way, but I could be wrong. Sligs are like squids, and Paramites are like... I dunno... I found no simalarities between the tentacles of them both, Sligs' tentacles are like fingers, and Paramites' are like claws, used for catching prey.

moxco · #3 02-09-2007, 04:29 PM

Oh, I always thought sligs tentical things were like slig facial hair.

snuzi · #4 02-09-2007, 05:05 PM

I don't believe the two are related in any way. I mean, they don't even look the slightest bit similar. Sure, they have odd facial parts, but so do all the other Oddworld characters. That doesn't mean they're all suddenly related to one another

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Sapphire · #5 02-10-2007, 01:02 AM

There's a term, "homologous structures", I believe, which refers to a similar, evolved structure of a body part across unrelated species. This occurs because the animals fill a similar niche, or have a similar need for a structure like that. In this case, the "finger-face" look would probably be a homologous structure, a trait that's simply common throughout the Oddworld creature design spectrum. Other things, like no eyes, thick forearms and skinny upper arms, residual tails and limbs that end in a single claw are probably things that the artists use to tie all of the creatures together and make them feel like they belong in the same world.

***Wil*** · #6 02-10-2007, 03:22 AM

Yay, perfect answer. Except its ‘analogous’ instead of ‘homologous’, which describes structures with a shared ancestry. There’s another traits that’s generated lots of fan discussion in the past, and that’s nostrils being located between but above the eyes.

Tropical Abe · #7 02-11-2007, 04:06 AM

I think the scrabs look like mutated real scrabs

***Wil*** · #8 02-11-2007, 05:43 AM

Well their design is at least partially inspired by crabs. Stands to reason.

Bullet Magnet · #9 02-11-2007, 05:56 AM

Mostly their movement, I think, which conveys the same essence, if not anatomical homology. I do love their walk.

Tropical Abe · #10 02-11-2007, 06:12 AM

As you can see, most Oddworld creatures were drawn from actual animals: Abe and the mudokons, from a mix of birds and humans; Glukkons, mainly from humans; Paramites, from something like a spider mixed with a squid; Scrabs, from crabs, as I said before; Fleeches, I guess from those worms who suck blood from their victims (I don't know how they're called in English - we call "sanguessuga" here); Slogs, from dogs, naturally... Then?

Taytay · #11 02-11-2007, 07:59 AM

Sligs, came from the swapy areas of Oddworld, as did the glukkons, but the sligs had mechanical pants thrown on them. Since their faces were so hideous, and nobody would want to work a face that hideous, they were also given their mask, and to do their job a gun. Paramites are not from swaps, as far as I know so I dont think they could be related. I'm to lazy to go check paramites in The Art of Oddworld Book for Paramites right now, I'd have to end this pose with paramites aren't from the swaps and sligs are.

Jordan · #12 02-11-2007, 08:22 AM

Paramites are usually from forests. In AO they live in the Paramonian forests, and in AE, they live in the Mudomo forests, if I'm correct.
In MO, you never actually see their TRUE home, because they're imprisoned.

Bullet Magnet · #13 02-11-2007, 03:22 PM

They were moved to the Mudomo Vaults ceremoniously. I have no idea what they live on.

Actually, Scrabania and Paramonia are quite small and close together. I think that the relationship between the animals, temples and region is more complex than is immediately apparent.

I think that naturally they are far more widespread. I'd say that (under normal conditions) paramites are more like wolves or lions. However all ecosystem ideas go out the window with MO, none more so than the scrabs, which can be described by hypotheses ranging from different species to breeding migrations to availability of resources.

Xx_Abe_xX · #14 02-12-2007, 03:02 AM

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Fleeches, I guess from those worms who suck blood from their victims (I don't know how they're called in English - we call "sanguessuga" here)

They're called bloodworms here. I was watchin' King Kong last night and there were these gigantic bloodworms that attacked one of the people. Two swallowed each leg, one got his arm, and one got his head. All the while he kept swingin' his machete. It was creepy *shifts to right a little*.

***Nate*** · #15 02-12-2007, 03:59 AM

Somehow I think he's actually thinking of leeches.

Xx_Abe_xX · #16 02-12-2007, 11:20 AM

True, true, I was just thinking of King Kong and got caught up in the moment. Oh, and how do you change your rank Nate? Cause I would like to change mine.

***Wil*** · #17 02-12-2007, 02:34 PM

Ranks change with the number of posts you make, but is no excuse to spam: they’re for fun, not status. Custom titles are periodically offered to certain members, but almost certainly never when asked for.

Keep in mind that topics about the functioning of the Forums themselves should go in Forum Suggestions & Help, where there is already a thread talking about this very subject. Which you started.

Tropical Abe · #18 02-12-2007, 02:49 PM

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They're called bloodworms here. I was watchin' King Kong last night and there were these gigantic bloodworms that attacked one of the people. Two swallowed each leg, one got his arm, and one got his head. All the while he kept swingin' his machete. It was creepy *shifts to right a little*.

I mean those:

Aren't fleechs like them?

***Wil*** · #19 02-12-2007, 02:52 PM

Like Nate said, they are called leeches. Fleeches are like them with frogs’ tongues and alligator teeth thrown in for good measure.

Tropical Abe · #20 02-12-2007, 02:55 PM

And slurgs look like... those animals (called "lesma" here)

Bullet Magnet · #21 02-12-2007, 03:06 PM

Is that a slug or a flatworm?

***Wil*** · #22 02-12-2007, 03:06 PM

Well, if ‘lesma’ is Portuguese for slug, then absolutely. I can’t really tell what the image you posted shows, though.

SligStorm · #23 02-12-2007, 03:13 PM

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I think the scrabs look like mutated real scrabs

Hes right if you do some minor edits to it youl get something like this:

***Xavier*** · #24 02-12-2007, 11:05 PM

lol at SligStorm, that was actually funny

Xx_Abe_xX · #25 02-13-2007, 04:05 AM

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Ranks change with the number of posts you make, but is no excuse to spam: they’re for fun, not status. Custom titles are periodically offered to certain members, but almost certainly never when asked for.

Oh, I get it now. I thought that you could change it whenever you felt like it. Thnx for clearing that up.