They should have Meeches in the game. -

magic9mushroom · #61 05-04-2006, 08:13 PM

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Or maybe not. I am pretty sure they would sell the remaining Meeches in a heart beat, classic products are always valuable, look at Gabiar.

But they would keep the blueprint DNA so they could do it again
GAME IDEA: Bring Meeches back from extinction by getting the blueprint and making clones!

used:) · #62 05-04-2006, 08:14 PM

I don't think even the Vykkers have that technology discoverd yet. And I doubt they would want to. Vykkers come off me like the kind of race that likes to destroy, not create, not even for profit.

magic9mushroom · #63 05-04-2006, 08:16 PM

The Vykkers have the technology to connect brains to computers, but not to clone? I don't think so.

used:) · #64 05-04-2006, 08:18 PM

And your references are?

magic9mushroom · #65 05-04-2006, 08:21 PM

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And your references are?

MO Munch's sonar

used:) · #66 05-05-2006, 04:17 AM

I was referring to cloning technology.

Ninjaxe · #67 05-05-2006, 11:19 AM

they way this is sounding is that the vykkers are like the nazi -germans in the boot camps like bahaus, horwitz and woteva. Probably all wrong spelling but you know what I mean.

The times when they killed over millions of jews to discover the ways of the human body. They made things that we have a clear understanding of there is today.

I am trying to put across is to evolve and gain technolgy is to destroy something. War is a part of evoltion

used:) · #68 05-05-2006, 12:11 PM

The Vykkers were partly inspired form the Nazi Scientists like Joseph Mengele.

Munch's Master · #69 05-05-2006, 12:33 PM

I don't think Vykekrs could clone meeches. To replicate the DNA and make a deady Meech body is one thing, but to actually give it life is another. If they took elements of Mudokon technology-the Ressurection Totems, and added it to some sort of cloning system to copy out the DNA and form Meech flbodies, which would then be brought to life by the Totems' spooce they could have living Meeches, but as Slaveless said, they'd eventually die out through mutations from inbreeding, or due to Industrialist greed. Vykkers and Gluks strike me mroe as the 'fast cash' type of industrilists than ones who conserve methods of making money. Gabbits and Meeches are the perfect example.
And, looking at that picutere of the tanks in the Lab, I didn't see anything Meech-like. I saw ythings that looked like monster seahorses, mutant gabbits, normal gabbits and (Most unusually) a Drakkic from S'laskia's fanfiction, but I saw no meechlike creatures.

Ninjaxe · #70 05-05-2006, 02:07 PM

Thats where all the gabbits gone? So Munch's Master, that brings me to ask why haven't Lady margaret demanded a lung if they all so neatly preserved. why go for all that the hassle if they have it. Offering double and triple reward.

For arguement sake I don't think they are gabbits. I not trying to put you down on your assumption. I think they are something else.

Zerox · #71 05-08-2006, 08:30 AM

Well, I agree mostly, with the whole 'Meech's stay dead but should be in pre-AO game' thing, maybe in a more 'native' game when industrialism is just beggining.
I think Vykkers cloning Meech's (or other life, maybe altered and mutated into a new species) is relatively plausible. Some creatures in this picture you can't see what they are clearly, ut if there's a Meech there, they have the DNA. And cloning can only create 'living' creatures, at least at fist, as it involves the creature growing like it was in the womb (or whatever), but it's in a machine instead. I can in this picture see at least Gabbits as recognisable creatures. Also, young (unborn) Scrab's and Mudokons (With the long tails, they must be like that before they're born, the top body looks like Mudokon)

I can also see a podgy thing to the left and two rather stick like creatures, sor of like embryonic Glukkons with long legs (thats what I thought when I saw them, anyway)

***Nate*** · #72 05-08-2006, 11:33 PM

That image always reminded me of the scene in the fourth (I think) Aliens movie, where Ripley goes into the cloning lab and sees a series of distorted, mutated versions - all the failed clones that didn't survive.

Zerox · #73 05-09-2006, 01:44 AM

Oops, didn't see Munch Master's post there referring to this image. But still, this image oinly really represents a small area, and if they have a Meech, it would probably be kept better and better preserved, since it is endangered (I presume, there was that 'Southern Meech diet' thing somewhere) and therefore more valuable, while Scarbs and particularly Mudokons are far more common. But then again, there's Gabbits in there.

Spirrow · #74 05-09-2006, 11:41 AM

The best meech image I ever saw was on billboards at Rupture Farms.
Animated and covered with paint. Not a good example of seeing one.

***Xavier*** · #75 05-09-2006, 12:29 PM

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The best meech image I ever saw was on billboards at Rupture Farms.
Animated and covered with paint. Not a good example of seeing one.

well there's also this image:
http://www.oddworldlibrary.net/togg/...=CAAO0137.jpg5

Glukinator · #76 05-09-2006, 12:51 PM

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Well, I agree mostly, with the whole 'Meech's stay dead but should be in pre-AO game' thing, maybe in a more 'native' game when industrialism is just beggining.
I think Vykkers cloning Meech's (or other life, maybe altered and mutated into a new species) is relatively plausible. Some creatures in this picture you can't see what they are clearly, ut if there's a Meech there, they have the DNA. And cloning can only create 'living' creatures, at least at fist, as it involves the creature growing like it was in the womb (or whatever), but it's in a machine instead. I can in this picture see at least Gabbits as recognisable creatures. Also, young (unborn) Scrab's and Mudokons (With the long tails, they must be like that before they're born, the top body looks like Mudokon)

I can also see a podgy thing to the left and two rather stick like creatures, sor of like embryonic Glukkons with long legs (thats what I thought when I saw them, anyway)

It looks like there's only gabbits in the picture.

***Xavier*** · #77 05-09-2006, 01:02 PM

well maybe, but no...
there are also other creatures we never saw somewhere else

Munch's Master · #78 05-10-2006, 10:54 AM

To Ninjaxe, I said it looked like a Gabbit and to be honest, it does. Look at the one directly above the Vykker's head on the left side. You must admit, it looks like a gabbit (Although on closer inspection I have noticed the head is slightly wrong). I don't think it is a gabbit, I just said it looked like one. And if it is a gabbit somehow (Which as I've said before, I don't think it is), then maybe its a secret supply of Gabbits that the Vykkers were using for their own gain. But anyway, I definitely don't see anything like a Meech.

Zerox · #79 05-11-2006, 03:08 AM

If its not a Gabbit, I reckon its a very closely related subspecies. Otherwise, its a Gabbit with a squished head. I reckon it is a Gabbit, its either the angle of the head or maybe the liquid bending the light.

Ninjaxe · #80 05-11-2006, 06:33 AM

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To Ninjaxe, I said it looked like a Gabbit and to be honest, it does. Look at the one directly above the Vykker's head on the left side. You must admit, it looks like a gabbit (Although on closer inspection I have noticed the head is slightly wrong). I don't think it is a gabbit, I just said it looked like one. And if it is a gabbit somehow (Which as I've said before, I don't think it is), then maybe its a secret supply of Gabbits that the Vykkers were using for their own gain. But anyway, I definitely don't see anything like a Meech.

Yup cant dely that it does look like gabbit due to its one leg. I am thinking on the lines of stargate. That they are vykkers/interns in those cells. But some people argue that cloning is not possible. The theory is this. Asgard (grey alien species from stargate) can sustain themselves by reproducing so they clone themselves. I think that it be huge possiblity that they are cloning interns and to further their research they are fusing them with the gabbit lungs so they can amphi-amphi- ampffi -ians.

Unless somone >.< cringed to look a Lorne says otherwise. (Might get a slap for confusing oddworld fans)

Zerox · #81 05-11-2006, 08:01 AM

Just one thing: if those aren't Gabbits, then what the hell do you lot think they are, then??
And this is getting WAY offtopic. Well, not really, but still, it's supposed to be Meech based, not Gabbit based. But anywho, I'm sticking with the flashback or prequel idea, the game having a more 'native' tone. Maybe the Meech worshippers are attacked by the Scrab worshippers (Mudanchee, Scrabanians, whatever) and you are another Mudokon trying to protect your tribe and fighting the Mudokons that are invading. Or maybe just kill them, mor scare them off (eg. possess a Meech and chase 'em off in some areas, perhaps)

Munch's Master · #82 05-11-2006, 11:36 AM

We don't think they are, we just think they look like Gabbits. And Ninjaxe, I don't base it purely off the one leg. The head shape is similar, the arms are the same, the body shape is the same. If it weren't for the actual facial features and part of the head structre, I'd say it was a Gabbit. The only difference is the head is the wrong way-a gabbit head is ike a can, long and high, that thing's head is like a can on its side-it sticks out and is short.

Zerox · #83 05-11-2006, 11:42 AM

Maybe they're like that because they're limp and floating, and their head is tilted to the side? The bit we see looks like the underside of the jaw. If so, most of the head will not be visible behind it.

Bullet Magnet · #84 05-13-2006, 04:18 AM

That is a Gabbit. End of story. It is concept art, so doesn't have to make sense.

And to ressurect Meeches, once you have got DNA, you need a zygote to implant it in, preferrably a meech's cell. Then a surrogate to grow it, unless they laid eggs, in which case you would one. And who knows what the young get from their parents that allows them to survibve, like immunity from milk. It's a tough process, at least we have elephants, which brings a glimmer of hope to cloning mammoths.

Zerox · #85 05-13-2006, 11:40 AM

I think nowaday's you don't need a surrogate, in some places its advanced furhter. Apparently in America you can have your dog or cat cloned

Particularly in thise case, I've always been wondering why people haven't tried to clone Dodo's and bring them back. I mean, they've got skin and all, so...
And is that concept art? I thought it was a CG sequence *shrugs*

***Nate*** · #86 05-13-2006, 09:16 PM

Yes they can clone cats and dogs, but they insert the genes from the old dog into an ova from another dog then insert that into a surrogate mother, all preferably of the same breed.

magic9mushroom · #87 05-15-2006, 03:40 PM

Bullet Magnet I think the Vykkers are advanced way way beyond us and can create meech cells from scratch. It is possible you know

***Nate*** · #88 05-15-2006, 10:24 PM

Depends on what you mean 'from scratch'. You must have some sort of reference material.

magic9mushroom · #89 05-16-2006, 03:34 PM

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Depends on what you mean 'from scratch'. You must have some sort of reference material.

OK if you know Meech cell structure and have nanotech you can make cells from scratch.

***Nate*** · #90 05-17-2006, 06:40 AM

You'd still need the DNA from somewhere. And from what we've seen of the industrial families, they don't exactly plan ahead for that sort of eventuality.

Besides, scarcity creates demand. And there's always another species you can wipe out.