Human Evolution

[Havoc]

ABout the evolving to be pshycic thing, that might happen, or it might not. I'm not exactly sure how being pshycic works, but it mostly has to do with your brain capacity as far as I understand. Right now most humans are barely using a few % of their brain. As that increases, who knows what kind of weird stuff people are able to do.

[Adder]

I actualy hope humans evolve to have better empathy/telepathy for the simple fact, I can see it reducing crime.

...or course, the problem with evolving to the point where minds are shared is that you might get an "overmind" forming... which isn't too bad, but will make individuals more like ants in a colony.

[Coolmanbizkit]

I actualy hope humans evolve to have better empathy/telepathy for the simple fact, I can see it reducing crime.

No, Because if you kill someone with your mind, Theres no fingerprints or anything

[OANST]

Psychic residue, baby. Psychic residue.

[Coolmanbizkit]

Psychic residue, baby. Psychic residue.

But would that be tracable? I doubt it.

[OANST]

We are all going to have to have our psires prints taken. A simple three foot rod in the anus is all it takes.

[Adder]

Coolmanbizkit, if we're all phycic or even empathic we'd only need to walk by someone who did it and we'd know.

The idea is that if everyone can hear/sence everyone else, the entire world would know if you comited a crime (or were thinking of comiting a crime). Of course there's the more likely sceinario that one depressed person would make everyone feel bad, resulting in a negative feed-back loop until everyone comits sucide (like when you kill two muds on the same screen in AE!)

[Havoc]

That would actualy be a very cool scenario... if you think about it XD. I wouldn't even mind seeing that happen just for a laugh.

[Coolmanbizkit]

Coolmanbizkit, if we're all phycic or even empathic we'd only need to walk by someone who did it and we'd know.

The idea is that if everyone can hear/sence everyone else, the entire world would know if you comited a crime (or were thinking of comiting a crime). Of course there's the more likely sceinario that one depressed person would make everyone feel bad, resulting in a negative feed-back loop until everyone comits sucide (like when you kill two muds on the same screen in AE!)

Oh yeah, Didn't think about mind reading. But, With evolving would you learn to control your abilities, and block things from other people?

[OANST]

What do you people not understand about psychic residue? I guess science is a little too far beyond you people.

[mk-ultra.net]

Humans have already evolved, into shape-shifters, commonly known as REPTILES... humans like world leaders and the royal family are not human, because there blood is different, they are humans that can imitate as reptilians.

[Abeguy]

lol lol lol...and Why the **** do you have OW pics in your post?
Humans already have the ability of empathy. its knowing how someone feels because they have had a same or similar experience

[Joe the Intern]

Holy crap, Joe posts and it's not an insult.

Suck my dick, fat man.

[mitsur]

Suck my dick, fat man.

Joe, please don't turn this into a flame war. Thanks!

[Nate]

ABout the evolving to be pshycic thing, that might happen, or it might not. I'm not exactly sure how being pshycic works, but it mostly has to do with your brain capacity as far as I understand. Right now most humans are barely using a few % of their brain. As that increases, who knows what kind of weird stuff people are able to do.

Rubbish. Total rubbish. Read this: http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_028.html. If you're too lazy I'll just say that humans may only use a certain percentage of their brain at any one time but they do use all of it. If you look at an EEG plot you will see that people will use some parts of their brain when they are talking, others when they are eating, remembering, catching a ball, etc. In other words, the brain is compartmentalised into tasks so you only need a certain amount of it when you do any one thing. But, over time, all of it is used.

[Havoc]

Ah okay, forget I said that then :P

[Adder]

Humans have already evolved, into shape-shifters(1), commonly known as REPTILES(2)... humans like world leaders and the royal family are not human, because there blood is different, they are humans that can imitate as reptilians(3).

Okay, I've heard all this before but you got it WRONG!

(1): Shapeshifters have been around for AGES (literaly). France actualy tried someone as a werewolf during the... not sure of century, but I think around 1600's. Shifters appear in most cultures. Ireland has the Póka. Japan has the Kitsune. If you interpret it, Vikings had Beserkers who could gain animal-like strength and state of mind.

(2): This is not true. Shifters are known as Shifters. They can take mamalian forms too, although some may be reptilian.

(3): This is based on the Rh factor of blood (esentialy O-). The idea of reptilian aliens (since O- people have slightly stronger reptilian symptoms than others) is a very easy to ignore theory. One website goes as far as to say "Jesus was a lizard alien". Ireland has a very high O- concentration.


I think shifting is possible (m-shifters, definitly. Physical... metaphysics plausable, phyisics doesn't dis-prove it).
"Lizard babies" - No. I have a tail bone. That means nothing.
Please read this clearly unbiased website for more info.

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[Joe the Intern]

Joe, please don't turn this into a flame war. Thanks!

It's only a joke. Settle down.

And shapeshifters? Come on, fellas. This is not intellectual discussion. This is fantastical posturing.

[Leto]

Suck my dick, fat man.

Much better.

And mistur, you person you.

Humans have already evolved, into shape-shifters, commonly known as REPTILES... humans like world leaders and the royal family are not human, because there blood is different, they are humans that can imitate as reptilians.

We can tell you're new, because you drifted away from GD to this beloved household. Leave.

[Adder]

shapeshifters?

Yes.

But not in a Holywood way.
Shapeshifters (or people with the ability to at least become like an animal mentaly/physicaly) appear in most world cultures. Whether it's werewolves {again, forget about Holywood}, foxes {kitsume?}, rats{nezumi?}, donkeys{póca}, or... whatever the beserkers became, there are a lot of tales of shifting. Even if it is just mental shifting (which may involve the etherial plane, and not just "I'm a dog!" thoughts or hypnosis), it has a lot of support {which doesn't neccessarily mean it's true, but does make people view it as "let's find out more"}
Science? There is nothing in physics to discount the ability to shift physicaly. Biologicaly... okay, physical shifting is very doubtful. Not impossibly, but not practical. Chemistry? ...it would take a LOT of energy to shift, but it should be possible. DNA can be denatured easily, and you'd only have to change it a bit.
Of course, the biggest part of the "science" to shifting would be dealing with metaphysics.

For anyone interested:
"Furries" are not neccesarily "Shifters" (at least, not pysical shifters). The only real info I have on shifting is from a book by Rosalyn Greene

[Dino]

I thought it was established that once a cell has become a cell to do a certain job, it stays that way and cannot turn back into a stem cell (this basically means that if you changed the DNA of a person the existing cells would not change, but any new growth would be the growth of whatever you programmed it to be).

So you'd end up with patches of fur and weird random lumps and things. You'd basically end up with a hideously disfigured human.

Now, drifting back to the topic of evolution, take this into account; there's good evidence to show that as a species we've started to split up into different sub-types that do different jobs, and there's actual physical evidence to show that we're still evolving from when we first evolved into humans. Our appendixes are getting smaller, for instance.

Much more subtle will be changes to adapt to the modern world. Increased resistance to newer toxins and pollutants, as well as further adaptation to using clothing (less body hair). etc.

[Adder]

Dino, the problem with adaption is that it only really works in a "survival of the fittest" situation. There's a lot of common knowledge that would say humans can't evolve benificialy anymore, since even people with "defective" genes can reproduce. "Bad" mutations are as rampant as "good" mutations.

As for cell mitosis... I didn't actualy think of that. It does make shifting a lot less plausible.

[Joe the Intern]

Science? There is nothing in physics to discount the ability to shift physicaly. Biologicaly... okay, physical shifting is very doubtful. Not impossibly, but not practical. Chemistry? ...it would take a LOT of energy to shift, but it should be possible. DNA can be denatured easily, and you'd only have to change it a bit.

Nothing you just said is true. Chemical changes are extremely hard to reverse. Your entire body was created and functions on chemical change. It is biologically impossible, because DNA molecules are so insanely complex that changing one gene could affect the entire organism in ways that are unforeseen. You may think the idea sounds cool, but it's bullshit.

And metaphysics is not a science. Who you jivin' with that cosmik debris?

[ANN NEELY]

I think that some day, humans will develop a long claw on their index finger to assist in the opening of new CD cases.....(damn that plastic!)

[Adder]

Nothing you just said is true. Chemical changes are extremely hard to reverse. Your entire body was created and functions on chemical change. It is biologically impossible, because DNA molecules are so insanely complex that changing one gene could affect the entire organism in ways that are unforeseen. You may think the idea sounds cool, but it's bullshit.

And metaphysics is not a science. Who you jivin' with that cosmik debris?

I didn't call metaphysics science. It's name implies it ISN'T science anyway. It's "beyond physics".

Chemical changes can be very easy to reverse. Le Chartellie's principle gives several ways of altering the balance of an equation if you want it to go backwards. Most organic reactions are inefficient enough that they can be reversed.

DNA is unbelievable complex, but that doesn't mean it can't change or be changed. And as you said, you'd only have to change a little to get big results. To quote Keaalu/Teal: "I'm 50% banana {geneticaly}".
The only "trick" is to get a forced mutation of DNA specific to shifting... which sounds far too complex to be possible, which is where you need to bring in the Mind {which we don't fully understand, anyway} and things beyond the scope of science.

Just because science says "no" doesn't mean it's flat fact. Remember when physicists said "bees can't fly"?

[Döbblyüw]

Humans have already evolved, into shape-shifters, commonly known as REPTILES... humans like world leaders and the royal family are not human, because there blood is different, they are humans that can imitate as reptilians.

You know about David Icke's Philosophy...
SWEET!

Anyway I'm not sure if humans are going to continue to evolve or not honestly... we've reached such a stand point that we might not require the need to change and modify our bodies...
But, like John Cramer (the Jigsaw Killer -SaW, SaW II) said people aren't adapting and thus we aren't prepared as much as evolution seems to show we are to changes and risks...

So we either stopped at a lazy standpoint or we're falling back...

[Abeguy]

Haha ANN NEELY, you kidder you.

That would be very usual.
I can't think of anything that hasn't been said.

[Munch's Master]

I'm not sure. I don't really agree with the theory of evolution in many areas, although I also think adaptation can/does occur. Humans might well evolve, but I imagine it would be only in a minor way and over at least 20 million years or so. Although I see technology advancing in ways that will cut out certain kinds of adaptation, unless of course there's a mass cut in population due to wars/disasters/something else, in whih case I'm undecided.