Derivative Films are pissing me off

Statikk HDM · #1 03-27-2005, 05:14 PM

Hollywood, don't you have any more ideas left in you? First you go and remake "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner." Honestly. The movie is good enough on its own and replacing Sidney Poirier with Ashton Kucher doesn't sound good to me. Can you imagine the pitch? "Hey, wouldn't it be great to replace one of the best actors, colored or not, with a honkey shit who can't act at all? It'd be perfect!"
Next up is the Longest Yard, widely acclaimed as one of the best football movies EVAR. So, taking out Burt Reynolds for ADAM SANDLER was what inspired execs to greenlight this?
What's next, The Ten Commandments staring Rob Shneider?
Speaking of derivative, another movie coming out is Sin City, based on a comic book. Thats never been done before. Oops, its done AT LEAST 4 TIMES A YEAR. Add in Miss Congeality 2, Be Cool(Essentially the sequel to a fantastic book and alright movie, Get Shorty) and we are swimming in a sea of box office rip offs and mediocrity. Dude, WTF? Anybody remember when movies actually had some thought and spark of their own?

SeaRex · #2 03-27-2005, 07:16 PM

I AGREE.

Everything is a remake these days. Of course, some of the best movies ever made were adaptations of a book or play or whatever, but everything as of recent has been a BAD remake... of a movie that really wasn't that great in the first place.

Sin City looks like it could be OK, but not because of the fact that it's based off of a comic book. The visuals look interesting and unique enough from the previews. I would say that it at least has potential.

MojoMan220 · #3 03-27-2005, 08:36 PM

Sin City looks really F-ing beautiful. Frank Miller turned down every director who asked to turn it into a movie, so Robert Rodriguez must be doing something special. I really hope it doesn't flop, I really want to see this done right.

Angalok · #4 03-27-2005, 09:00 PM

I wouldn't call a comic book movie derivative. How many original scripts are there out there anyway? Most films are based on a book, comic or no.

Personally, I think there's been a streak of good movies. Collateral and Saw just came out on DVD, and those are two brilliant motion pictures, both of which I think are original screenplays.

Fuzzle Guy · #5 03-28-2005, 12:56 AM

And Disney. They've always been crap but never this crap. Pixar was the only thing that kept them going, and now Pixars left, it's all Cinderella 2, Snow White 2, The Hunchback of Naughtradam (sp?) 2, Sleeping Beauty, oh my golly gosh, it wouldn't be 2! The Lion King 3! The only good lion King was the first, then they got greedy and made two more.
I for one would like to see Disney go out of buissines,
as for Universal ect. Films, most of them are fine, exept for the remakes.

Statikk HDM · #6 03-28-2005, 08:41 AM

When you look at Disney's last 4 or 5 films and compare their grosses to Pixar films its insane. The last 4 or 5 Disney films didn't even get as much money as Bug's Life, which grossed more than 160 million. When your WORST PERFORMING FILM out-grosses Disney's last 4 or 5 animated films you're onto something.

***Nate*** · #7 03-28-2005, 06:58 PM

And when Disney saw the writing on the wall with Pixar, they spent $100 million on putting their own digital animation studio together, to produce a pile of shite who're name I don't even remember but had something to do with dinosaurs.

And they lost a lot of money. Which is funny, if you think about it.

Statikk HDM · #8 03-29-2005, 05:17 AM

What do you mean? Ice Age? That nearly doubled its cost to make and promote in the states and it almost quadrupled it worldwide. If that is a flop let every thing I do be a flop!

Fuzzle Guy · #9 03-29-2005, 05:30 AM

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What do you mean? Ice Age? That nearly doubled its cost to make and promote in the states and it almost quadrupled it worldwide. If that is a flop let every thing I do be a flop!

Ice Age was made before Pixar left, plus that isn't Disney.

That new company is making a Toy Story 3. I'll refuse to go and see it so that the dirty company don't get any money, and I hope that Hanks doesn't go back for it either, ruin his reputation if he did.

OANST · #10 03-29-2005, 09:09 AM

Sin City is Frank Miller's masterpiece and should be a very good film. I don't find making a movie out of a great written story to be derivitive if you plan on being true to the story.

duveaux · #11 03-29-2005, 09:26 AM

That depends on how high the quallity of the movie itself is...
"beter a good rip then a bad * ehhh* thingy"

***Nate*** · #12 03-30-2005, 06:17 PM

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What do you mean? Ice Age? That nearly doubled its cost to make and promote in the states and it almost quadrupled it worldwide. If that is a flop let every thing I do be a flop!

Ice Age was made by Fox.

The movie I was talking about (after a bit of research at imdb) was called (wait for it...) Dinosaur. The fact that no-one remembers it only proves my point.

TheRaisin · #13 03-31-2005, 03:29 PM

I remember it. It was barely over an hour and it sucked balls.

DINOSAURS!...

SHOULD!...

NOT!...

TALK!

***Nate*** · #14 03-31-2005, 06:07 PM

Unless they are crappy Jim Henson-style puppets.

Disgruntled Intern · #15 04-01-2005, 08:54 PM

Or on a quest for a mythical leaf that can only be found in the great valley.

Little Foot, oh, how I love you.

Besides, household appliances shouldn't talk either, and the brave little toaster is the best animated toaster-adventure film I've ever seen, bitch.

MojoMan220 · #16 04-02-2005, 07:45 PM

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Speaking of derivative, another movie coming out is Sin City, based on a comic book. Thats never been done before. Oops, its done AT LEAST 4 TIMES A YEAR.

Just got back from seeing Sin City. It kicked major ass, while staying eerily faithful to the core material. A must see!

Abeguy · #17 04-02-2005, 08:20 PM

Pixar didn't leave yet, they said Finding Nemo was the last movie, and look, The Incredibles and two more movies

thatbluebastard · #18 04-12-2005, 10:08 PM

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Hollywood, don't you have any more ideas left in you? First you go and remake "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner." Honestly. The movie is good enough on its own and replacing Sidney Poirier with Ashton Kucher doesn't sound good to me. Can you imagine the pitch? "Hey, wouldn't it be great to replace one of the best actors, colored or not, with a honkey shit who can't act at all? It'd be perfect!"
Next up is the Longest Yard, widely acclaimed as one of the best football movies EVAR. So, taking out Burt Reynolds for ADAM SANDLER was what inspired execs to greenlight this?
What's next, The Ten Commandments staring Rob Shneider?
Speaking of derivative, another movie coming out is Sin City, based on a comic book. Thats never been done before. Oops, its done AT LEAST 4 TIMES A YEAR. Add in Miss Congeality 2, Be Cool(Essentially the sequel to a fantastic book and alright movie, Get Shorty) and we are swimming in a sea of box office rip offs and mediocrity. Dude, WTF? Anybody remember when movies actually had some thought and spark of their own?

even though Sin City is not your typical comic book movie.

it's more film noir.

but hey, whatever.