Favorite Wildlife -

***Nate*** · #31 01-19-2005, 07:59 PM

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Yeah, dolphins have been known to attack and kill porpoises. I don't think I ever heard an explanation as to why.

You don't question why they attack and kill salmon (to choose a random fish) so why question porpussies? Just because they are genetically related and look similar. After all, humans have been hunting apes and monkeys for food for centuries.

TheRaisin · #32 01-19-2005, 08:52 PM

They don't eat porpoises, fool. That's the point. They're not doing it for food. The porpoises don't threaten them. There's no point to it at all. As far as can be told with the knowledge we have, they do it just for fun. Which is what saddens me. Killing for fun is practically unheard of in the natural world. The only other animals that kill for fun (that I know of) are humans. 'Tis a croi-in' shame, i tis.

The Shadowman · #33 01-20-2005, 03:08 AM

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Too bad they attack and kill porpoises. You have heard about that, right?

Shadowman, you've just made me love coyotes even more. They're like, "We're too cool for jyor training, ese." Of course, they have Mexican accents because they live near and/or in Mexico. Except for the ones that don't. Anyway. They just kick ass.

And yeah, I guess if you think about it wolves must be a bit smarter than coyotes, seeing as how their hunting in packs must be extremely effective. But I don't know man. Those coyotes, man.

Also all the mythology surrounding them. Lovez it. Coyote is always portrayed as a trickster and sometimes a shapeshifter, and ya gotta love those guys. Plus I read this book called Coyote Blue by Christopher Moore and it was really cool and there was this god Coyote and he was really cool and, well, ya gotta read it to get it. Ya jyest gotta.

But to end this digression, yeah I think dolphins are awesome, and I think most sealife is pretty cool except in real life I don't really wanna come in contact with them because let me tell you. Let me tell you man. If you've grown up with Pacific Northwest waters you don't want to go to far from shore. *shudder* There's never much sun at the coast, the dropoff is immensely steep and sudden and deep, and the water is this horrible greenish opaque color and every time I go in the water I just can't make myself go more than a few yards out because the moment I lose sight of my feet I start getting paranoid that there's some horrible sea creature or nasty little animal or flesh-eating giant monster just lurking there just to piss me off! *shudder again* That's why I don't like the ocean. Pools are good though.

I like animals. They don't like me though. They sense fear!

Don't get me wrong, I love coyotes. My ancesators, the Native Americans where the ones who came up with some of the stories about them. They are awsome animals, and very different then what you would expect, which makes them even more cool. They are the fast, theif-like creature of the Animal world. In some Native American tribes, the coyote is its own tribal clan. Great respect is shown to the coyotes. Plus I can't show them disrespect without geting a few angry relatives

P.S. Dolphins are the only animal that actually kills for fun, because cats don't intend to kill the animal they are playing with, same thing with most other animals that "accidently" kill an animal by playing with it

Rich · #34 01-20-2005, 10:21 AM

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Dolphins are the only animal that actually kills for fun

Apparently, Dolphins are the only animals (other than humans) who have sex for pleasure, instead of doing it just for babies. Although, Dolphins don't have contraception as they are not enlightened.

Godlesswanderer · #35 01-20-2005, 10:28 AM

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The only other animals that kill for fun (that I know of) are humans.

Chimps have been known to go out and kill other chimps for fun. They go out in groups of six and walk calmly in straight line towards their target. Once they get close, they split into two groups of three and go out to the left and right flanks of the target, sometimes in trees and sometimes on the ground. After they do that, they wait for a minute or two. Then one of the chimps makes some kind of signal to attack (this is usually some kind of scream) They then swing down from the trees they are in, or run across the ground grabbing rocks or sticks as they run. They then completely batter their target until it dies. No one know why they do this. They just do it for the hell of it, it seems.

WiLL the Wander · #36 01-20-2005, 11:22 AM

Tigers, Lions... all cat type animals...

***Nate*** · #37 01-20-2005, 12:44 PM

It could be some sort of territorial/tribal thing.

I question the thing about Dolphins being the only species that has sex for pleasure. I'm fairly sure that there are some monkey species that do it too, including the one that practises homosexuality and the one where the females prostitute themselves for food and better nesting spots. And let's not forget dogs humping legs.

There is one species of Dolphin which is the only other animal that remains alive after its sexually active years, so grandparents help raising children.

sligster · #38 01-20-2005, 02:42 PM

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Chimps have been known to go out and kill other chimps for fun. They go out in groups of six and walk calmly in straight line towards their target. Once they get close, they split into two groups of three and go out to the left and right flanks of the target, sometimes in trees and sometimes on the ground. After they do that, they wait for a minute or two. Then one of the chimps makes some kind of signal to attack (this is usually some kind of scream) They then swing down from the trees they are in, or run across the ground grabbing rocks or sticks as they run. They then completely batter their target until it dies. No one know why they do this. They just do it for the hell of it, it seems.

that.... is.... AWESOME

AquaticAmbi · #39 01-20-2005, 05:26 PM

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It could be some sort of territorial/tribal thing.

I question the thing about Dolphins being the only species that has sex for pleasure. I'm fairly sure that there are some monkey species that do it too, including the one that practises homosexuality and the one where the females prostitute themselves for food and better nesting spots.

The Bonobo! That's the chimp-like thing I posted a link to in the homosexuality debate that everyone seemed to ignore except Raisin and maybe one other person! That was my proof to those who asked for proof of homosexuality occurring in nature... Mmyep... gotta love them bonobos.

Hmm... Shadowman, I demand proof of this dolphins killing for fun-ness of which you speak.

Leto · #40 01-20-2005, 10:52 PM

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Apparently, Dolphins are the only animals (other than humans) who have sex for pleasure, instead of doing it just for babies. .

Wha? How did some crackpot scientist come up with that assumption? I mean, how could we know if Dolphins are actually having a pleasurous experience of reproduction? Are they smiling?

Interesting... Is there any site/poll which states this fact? If so, could it be posted?

Also, I feel samey on the subject of animals killing for fun. It's probable, but I'd just like to see some kind of evidence.

The Shadowman · #41 01-21-2005, 07:48 AM

Yeah with all animals they are not self-aware (they don't know the fear of dieing) nor do they understand when another animals is "dead" they just think it is "food" or they may kill accidently be playing with that animal, such as the cat bats the mouse around the floor for fun and is upset when it "stops working"

Rich · #42 01-21-2005, 11:11 AM

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I mean, how could we know if Dolphins are actually having a pleasurous experience of reproduction? Are they smiling?

Not certain, but Dolphins smile all the time anyway, that's a fact.

TheRaisin · #43 01-21-2005, 05:55 PM

Yes, it's a device to draw attention away from their cold, calculating, brutally intelligent minds. The day the dolphins learn to operate automatic weapons is the day the human race becomes endangered.

Hee hee hee. I'll be ready for them, though. I have already learned their language. Perhaps I can bargain for immunity when the Day of the Dolphins comes. "Krrrik! Grree-ee! KRRR-EE-EE-EE!"*

*"Fish! Water! DOLPHINS!", the warcry of the Dolphin Rebellion. Twenty Aught Eight, that's when they make their move.

Al the Glukkon · #44 01-21-2005, 07:25 PM

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Wha? How did some crackpot scientist come up with that assumption? I mean, how could we know if Dolphins are actually having a pleasurous experience of reproduction? Are they smiling?

Interesting... Is there any site/poll which states this fact? If so, could it be posted?

Also, I feel samey on the subject of animals killing for fun. It's probable, but I'd just like to see some kind of evidence.

Apparently, dolphins sometimes gang up on young dolphins and rape or kill them.

AquaticAmbi · #45 01-21-2005, 08:41 PM

I just said that Al, minus the raping part.

And hmm, maybe the dolphins will spare me too! I'd be on their side if they would allow it. Mmyep... someday the humans will be the ones jumping through hoops for the dolphins.

Rich · #46 01-22-2005, 12:40 AM

There is one problem with this Dolphin invasion, Dolphins can't survive on dry land. The humans could just sit on the beach and laugh.

TheRaisin · #47 01-22-2005, 09:07 AM

Which is exactly what the humans will say when the invasion starts. That will be their downfall. Who would suspect that the dolphins could get their hands on a gigantic underwater factory that produces cybernetic suits filled with water to prevent the dolphins from crushing themselves with their own body weight? That's right. Cybernetic aqua-suits. Land will not be safe anymore.

I feel really sorry for the tuna trawlers. Boy are they gonna get it. Dolphins don't forget, y'know. Those poor bastards, they don't stand a chance.

Silversnow · #48 01-22-2005, 01:39 PM

My favorite wild animal is probably the hawk, the eagle or the owl. I don't know why I like birds when I'm well aware that the reptiles are way cooler.

Al the Glukkon · #49 01-22-2005, 03:58 PM

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I just said that Al, minus the raping part.

Oops, forgot about that. I guess that would go with the theory of dolphins having sex for pleasure. Or was that already proven?

I've heard of confused dolphins trying to have sex with humans. I believe it was on the news

TheRaisin · #50 01-22-2005, 07:32 PM

I just saw that in an episode of King of the Hill. The one where Hank is swimming with a dolphin and he rubs its belly and it gets excited and tries to hump him. That was hilarious. Um. Yeah.

Gretin · #51 01-22-2005, 07:38 PM

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My favorite wild animal is probably the hawk, the eagle or the owl.

You beat me to it! I like a quite a few different animals, but my favorite wild animal would be one of those birds.

AquaticAmbi · #52 01-22-2005, 07:46 PM

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I just saw that in an episode of King of the Hill. The one where Hank is swimming with a dolphin and he rubs its belly and it gets excited and tries to hump him. That was hilarious. Um. Yeah.

Haha! I've seen that episode. It made me think twice about having another dolphin encounter anytime soon.

***Alcar*** · #53 01-22-2005, 10:01 PM

Dolphins have been my favourite animal for as far as I can tell. As I child, when we went on our annual holiday to Port Stephens, where we still go today, we would always go on Dolphin Watch cruises. Back then, we were even allowed to play with the Dolphins. I had so much fun with them, I was able to get up close and pet them. Sadly, times have changed, and laws forbid me from going anywhere near them.

But we still go on those Dolphin watch cruises, and I always look out for their fins when at the beach.

Alcar...

Leto · #54 01-22-2005, 10:51 PM

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Apparently, dolphins sometimes gang up on young dolphins and rape or kill them.

WHAT?! Haha, this is some funny shit. I believe the killing part, but geez, RAPE?!

I'm not dissmissing the possibility of it happening, I just think its truly humurous!

(I'm not a sick bastard, it's just so, so outrageous.)

I would probably say "GReAK!!! KREEEE so mudoki san!" to the killer Dolphins, roughly translating as "HeLLO!! KILL so mudoki san!".

The Marching Mudokon · #55 01-22-2005, 11:01 PM

Orangutans kill for pleasure aswell. Actually it's very violent. The males will just beat the younger orangutans to death and they seem to enjoy it. I saw a progam on ABC all about animal behaviour.
My favourite animal would probably be the kestrel hawk, wedge-tail eagle and the wolf (any species of wolf).

TheRaisin · #56 01-23-2005, 10:01 AM

Here in Washington, the Native American tribes living on the coast have been hunting whales for thousands of years. Recently, one particular tribe was going to go on one of their sacred hunting trips, which they only do once in a very long while. Anyway the law said they couldn't. This is an ancient and very sacred custom to them, which they were doing generations before the first white man ever came to America, but now that whales have been so endangered by hunting, they're no longer legally allowed to do it. When I heard about this it made me so angry. Anyway.

It seems like the closer to humans you get in the animal kingdom, the more violence there is.

***Nate*** · #57 01-23-2005, 02:06 PM

Yeah, big birds like eagles are cool. I read an article a while back about Peregrine Falcons that made me just want to see one for myself. Apparently there are a couple of them that nest on the skyscrapers in Melbourne City.

TheRaisin · #58 01-23-2005, 02:33 PM

In a dive, peregrine falcons are the fastest creatures on earth, reaching speeds of over 200 miles per hour (320 kilometres per hour). They kill their prey, which consists of smaller birds, in the air, then take it back to their nest to feed. The interiors of their nostrils contain a number of folds and ridges to slow down the air entering their nose, and without them they would suffocate during a dive, as the air would be forced into their lungs and out again before they could absorb oxygen. Um. That's allz I got.

AquaticAmbi · #59 01-23-2005, 03:27 PM

Now that I've thought about it somewhat, I think we're wrong when we say the animals are killing for pleasure just because they don't eat their victims. When it's inner-species killing, I would assume it's about competition. The older animals are killing the competition before they're old enough to be a threat. Just a thought.

The Marching Mudokon · #60 01-23-2005, 03:31 PM

Not only do they kill other orangutans but any type of monkey they can.