PS2 or Xbox? -

Eriken · #61 06-22-2004, 08:20 AM

Yes. I was referring to the statements by Lanning himself quoted on that forum posting I linked to.

Miss Odd · #62 06-24-2004, 03:54 PM

Ahhhh! This is the thing I was most dreading... o__O

In the beginning I only bought an Xbox for MO, and now I hear Stranger is coming out on PS2 as well. I want a PS2 for Final Fantasy.... and I have to choose between the two consoles. My parents are idiots.... I can't have both, can I??!!!!!!!! *kicks Xbox*

Anyway, I do like my Xbox.... it's just that I really want to play Final Fantasy. It really annoys me that Xbox ONLY has stupid killing games. There are like no RGPs on Xbox.

Well enough of my ranting o__O

~Miss Odd

P.S Check out Oddworld Online lol :P

oddguy · #63 06-24-2004, 07:00 PM

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It really annoys me that Xbox ONLY has stupid killing games. There are like no RGPs on Xbox.

Sure there is. I recommend Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic.

-oddguy

steel scrab · #64 06-25-2004, 01:53 AM

plus u got morrowind,baldurs gate,arx fatalis for rpgs and fables coming out in september

Fuzzles! · #65 06-25-2004, 02:18 AM

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plus u got morrowind,baldurs gate,arx fatalis for rpgs and fables coming out in september

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic - fantastic RPG. I play Balder's Gate 1 and 2, Phantasy Star Online, and yes Fable will kick some serious booty!

Eriken · #66 06-26-2004, 03:10 PM

Problem with Xbox is hardly any of it's good/unique games are exclusive. You can get most of those games you listed for PC or some other system as well if you wanted to. Whereas most of the great PS2 and Gamecube games are 100% exclusive.

steel scrab · #67 06-27-2004, 03:00 AM

well it is microsoft after all, windows and such. more money for them releasing games for xbox and pc, but i know what u mean. it annoyed me when splinter cell came out for ps2 when it was supposed to be for xbox only

Eriken · #68 06-27-2004, 09:18 AM

Yep. The way Xbox is running things, if you already own a PC, PS2 and/or Gamecube, there's no need to own an Xbox really, because you're pretty much guaranteed most of the big games will be released on another platform at one point or another. And since I already do own all three of those systems, I won't be getting an Xbox anytime soon.

oddguy · #69 06-27-2004, 09:19 AM

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Problem with Xbox is hardly any of it's good/unique games are exclusive. You can get most of those games you listed for PC or some other system as well if you wanted to. Whereas most of the great PS2 and Gamecube games are 100% exclusive.

You got a point there. However, I always get a multiplatform game for Xbox, because it has better graphics...and I just love the hard drvie. You are right that Xbox needs to release more exclusive games.

-oddguy

Fuzzles! · #70 06-27-2004, 12:08 PM

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Problem with Xbox is hardly any of it's good/unique games are exclusive. You can get most of those games you listed for PC or some other system as well if you wanted to. Whereas most of the great PS2 and Gamecube games are 100% exclusive.

True enough, but things have sloooowly been changing. I mean they released GTA/Vice City double pack on Xbox last year...which was supposed to be a PS2 exclusive, and then also with Silent Hill 2 and I think (not 100% though) one of the other SH's were coming to Xbox. I'm not a PC gamer so to me, something like KOTOR is Xbox exclusive (but you're right I forgot about PC).

jjburton · #71 06-27-2004, 12:13 PM

Welll...I'm buying one of them for pretty much the express purpose of having the ability to play stranger. I've got a beefy PC and a gamecube and have been weighing the plusses and minuses of the PS2 and XBOX. The XBOX does seem to suffer from a lack of exclusives, of the main games I've wanted to play on it (Stranger, Advent Rising, Halo, Halo 2, and Knights of the Old Republic), only one is exclusive as I've already got Halo on my PC, but there's lots of games I'd like to play on the PS2. But being an animator myself, I like the pretty graphics...so....the jury is still out. Thankfully there's still enough time before stranger comes out for another price drop...(me hopes

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Fuzzles! · #72 06-27-2004, 12:34 PM

Makes sense!! And then you can play Munch's Oddysee also!

Welcome to the forums btw!

***Cloverfield*** · #73 06-27-2004, 09:45 PM

Although there are some RPGs on Xbox, I haven't really found one that is story driven like the FF games are. They seem more like the "hack and slash" kinds of RPGs. Altough I haven't played the Star Wars RPG, as I aren't really into Star Wars.

I prefer to buy games that I aren't sure of for the Xbox cause it's lots cheaper to buy a game from the US for me than to buy it on the PS2 in Australia.

Like Fuzzles, I don't like PC games much either. Because you have to "install" them, and if you have a lot of games, you are going to use up your HD space very quickly [especially with me as I have an older computer and only 40 GB of combined HD space]. Like Diablo II is one of few PC games I have installed, and the full/multiplayer install takes up over 1 GB. A console is much easier, you just put the disc in and away you go. And with the Xbox's HD, it makes saving games a breeze.

Abe Babe...

Fuzzles! · #74 06-28-2004, 06:27 AM

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Although there are some RPGs on Xbox, I haven't really found one that is story driven like the FF games are. They seem more like the "hack and slash" kinds of RPGs. Altough I haven't played the Star Wars RPG, as I aren't really into Star Wars.

Aaah I know. I have a PSOne and have been seriously considering a PS2 or possibly the next gen when it's available just for FF. I totally agree about the "hack and slash" concept Xbox has brought to RPGs but I still enjoy them, things like D&D Heroes and well the much anticipated Fable should change the face of RPGs for the Xbox. I hate Star Wars games also, but really liked Knights of the Old Republic.

Statikk HDM · #75 06-28-2004, 06:32 AM

XBOX. There is no denying that ports from the PS2 end up looking better than the original. Just 1 example: The GTA double pack games look hella better than the PS2 games. Plus the headest and Xbox live are bitching not to mention the built in hard drive. Plus, too many good games are coming out for it to not be an auto buy. For instance, the new Mechwarrior and Halo games, Fable, Jade Empire, KOTOR 2. It also has Full Spectrum Warrior which is as fun as any other military-based game I've ever played. Also, Metal Slug. I'm sorry, but I just effing LOVE that series.

Sekto Springs · #76 06-28-2004, 06:45 AM

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Also, Metal Slug.

I love those games. I've played the demo for the new one and I'm hooked, I'm glad they stuck to good ol' 2D. I beat the first one in under an hour, I beat the second over a period of 2 days. I'm going for the record with this one.

Eriken · #77 06-28-2004, 01:54 PM

Point is though, if you're like me and already own a PC, Gamecube and Playstation 2, what insentive does Microsoft give to buy an Xbox as well if I can get most games on it for a system I already own?

Sekto Springs · #78 06-28-2004, 02:59 PM

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Point is though, if you're like me and already own a PC, Gamecube and Playstation 2, what insentive does Microsoft give to buy an Xbox as well if I can get most games on it for a system I already own?

Well, I'm not like you. And most people who have already played MO for Xbox aren't either.

Eriken · #79 06-28-2004, 04:01 PM

Yes. And look at what a big success Munch's Oddysee was on Xbox.

OWI can blame it on hype all they want. Fact is, the majority of Xbox gamers don't care about Oddworld.
Almost all of my friends own Xbox's and I can't convince them for the life of me to give MO a try. Most of the Xbox owners that actually enjoyed MO were the ones that bought an Xbox specifically for it.

Sekto Springs · #80 06-28-2004, 04:09 PM

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Yes. And look at what a big success Munch's Oddysee was on Xbox.

OWI can blame it on hype all they want. Fact is, the majority of Xbox gamers don't care about Oddworld.
Almost all of my friends own Xbox's and I can't convince them for the life of me to give MO a try. Most of the Xbox owners that actually enjoyed MO were the ones that bought an Xbox specifically for it.

OWI never put all the blame on hype. It was moved to a completely new system and 60% of the stuff we expected was scrapped. It had to be completely redone for Xbox and the time they had didn't allow them to reprogram it all. Hype does indeed take alot of blame. And MO was a big success on Xbox, it won everything, just not one of the fan's favurites.

oddguy · #81 06-28-2004, 04:19 PM

And...OWI made a lot of moolah off MO, because it was a launch title and now it's a platinum hit for zee Xbox.

Face it...Xbox is cooler than PS2! Bwahahaha! IMO...

-oddguy

Eriken · #82 06-28-2004, 04:19 PM

Lanning has said himself that he attributes MO's poor sales to the amount of hype that was generated, and then the game's inability to live up to said hype.

However, go check out the poll at http://www.oddworld.au.com
Munch Xbox Poll
What do you think of Munch´s Oddysee on the Xbox?
I love it! (317) 45.94%
Don´t have an Xbox (243) 35.22%
Good, but could be better (84) 12.17%
Dissapointed (35) 5.07%
OK (11) 1.59%
Total of votes: 690

243 people out of the 690 who have voted don't even own an Xbox. That's 243 extra people who obviously enjoy the oddworld series, as they were visiting an Oddworld fansite, yet didn't play/purchase Munch's Oddysee because they didn't have an Xbox.

How can you not believe that poor sales of MO could be attributed to the fact that it was an Xbox exclusive, when so many FANS of Oddworld weren't even able to play it because they don't own an Xbox?

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And...OWI made a lot of moolah off MO, because it was a launch title and now it's a platinum hit for zee Xbox.

Yes. That's the biggest reason why they made it an Xbox exclusive. Microsoft offered them big bucks to develop it as a launch title. And it's a platinum hit because it's an old game and they stopped making any money off of it when they were selling it at retail price. They just give it the name "platinum hit" so they don't have to call it a game that stopped bringing in money.

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There is no denying that ports from the PS2 end up looking better than the original. Just 1 example: The GTA double pack games look hella better than the PS2 games. Plus the headest and Xbox live are bitching not to mention the built in hard drive.

First off, Metal Gear Solid 2 on Xbox is way worse than the PS2 version. There's lag where there originally was none. Also, Silent Hill 2 was way better on PS2, and almost everyone agrees.
PS2 has a headset as well, and a harddrive (even though it costs $100, but it comes with a free game. Even after buying the HDD though, the PS2 is still only a little more expensive than the Xbox).

the brew master · #83 06-28-2004, 07:11 PM

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You got a point there. However, I always get a multiplatform game for Xbox, because it has better graphics...and I just love the hard drvie. You are right that Xbox needs to release more exclusive games.

-oddguy

what about ninja gaiden.....thats only on xbox

Eriken · #84 06-28-2004, 07:14 PM

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what about ninja gaiden.....thats only on xbox

There are a few exceptions. Ninja Gaiden, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Toejam & Earl 3. All of these are great games, and show that the Xbox IS capable of putting out some good unique titles. They just need more of them.

the brew master · #85 06-28-2004, 07:21 PM

exactly......but when the xbox 2 comes out they should make more unique titles.......but i'm gonna buy it either way

Eriken · #86 06-28-2004, 07:36 PM

Xbox 2 is likely going to bomb. They're releasing it next year, which is pissing a bunch of people off because they don't want to have to spend money on yet another console when the Xbox is still in its prime.
They're hoping to make the Xbox the next PS2, since Sony released it early and it completely dominated the market. However, what it's going to be is the next Dreamcast, since it was released TOO early and then all of the other developers released far better machines a few years later.

***Cloverfield*** · #87 06-28-2004, 07:44 PM

Oooh, that poll is really old. I didn't think anyone looked at it anymore and was considering taking it down. Interesting statistics from it though.

I really haven't been able to compare my Xbox and PS2 games, for reasons I said earlier in this post ... which is I only own one title on the two consoles [Silent Hill 2] and that it's hard to compare cause some of the colors get messed when running NTSC consoles through a PAL TV. But Eriken just said that SH2 looks better on the PS2 anyways, so I wouldn't be comparing anything different.

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the much anticipated Fable should change the face of RPGs for the Xbox.

Fable looked really awesome what I saw at E3... but unfortunately I forgot to check it out and I didn't have time to wait in queue to have a turn at playing it as I had to get to the S-E presentation. But I took some time watching others playing, and it really looked awesome!!!

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Also, Metal Slug. I'm sorry, but I just effing LOVE that series.

Metal Slug is awesome, it's the only game I play in the arcades when I go, as I don't like the usual fighting games that they mainly have there. But Metal Slug on the Xbox sucks. Well to me it did, anyways ... I went and played the latest installment on the arcade machine they had set up at E3 instead [plus they had it set to unlimited credits ... yay!]. But I don't know about others, but when I play a game like Metal Slug at the arcades, I button bash really fast in order to get lots of shots off. That's all fine on the arcade kind of controller with big buttons that you can hit hard! But on the Xbox, my fingers started getting really sore after only a little while of playing. The Xbox's "domed" buttons aren't suitable for this kind of game IMO. It'd only work if you went and bought yourself one of those arcade style controllers that they sell for fighting games.

Abe Babe...

Sekto Springs · #88 06-28-2004, 07:58 PM

Yes, Metal Slug games were best as arcade games. I beat the PS version in under an hour because I never had to deposit more credits.

the brew master · #89 06-28-2004, 07:58 PM

did you see HL2 and DOOM 3 at E3?

Fuzzles! · #90 06-29-2004, 07:30 AM

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Fable looked really awesome what I saw at E3... but unfortunately I forgot to check it out and I didn't have time to wait in queue to have a turn at playing it as I had to get to the S-E presentation. But I took some time watching others playing, and it really looked awesome!!!

Abe Babe...

Ack I'm dying here Abe Babe!!!! Just dying! You are truly the most fortunate person! First Stranger - now Fable!!!!!

I just can not WAIT for this game!