anyone else bored and disheartened and sick of applying for jobs that never get back?

[Nate]

So, I had an initial interview with a company in Boston that went really well. But they told me yesterday that they're not going to proceed with me because they can't afford to fly me there for an in-person interview. None of the other companies I've interviewed with in the States have even suggested in-person interviews! With them, they were happy to deal with Skype to make a decision.

Le sigh.

[Dixanadu]

Having been turned down an interview due to being overqualified seems to be a thing going nowadays.

I know a girl who has two A-levels and she's finding it impossible to get into a call center field.

[gishygleb]

Is there so much fuss? I am overwhelmed with contracts from foreign countries (however, none are accepted). It seemed to me, that people were haunted by companies since their school years, if they had had achievements.

Is the unemployment really severe in your countries??

[Slog Bait]

Yes.

[Job McYossie]

Yeah, it's bad. And what's this I'm hearing about not accepting overqualified? That seems like an incredibly bad idea. For every party involved.

[Phylum]

If you have a university degree and you apply for a job as a check-out chick, people are smart enough to work out that it's not something that you want to do and that you'll probably be actively looking for better work the entire time you're there.

[Job McYossie]

That is a side I never thought of. Still seems ridiculous that people with degrees can't get jobs.

[Slog Bait]

One of the few reasons I'm glad the education and loan systems screwed me over so bad preventing me from furthering my degree

Still can't find a damn job though

[Phylum]

See my desire to acquire a music degree is actually really smart, because I'll be just as unemployable once I get one.

[STM]

You better hope not or you're sucking money out of your pocket for nothing. Unless university really is the best 3 years of your life like it's supposed to be (and of course I sincerely hope you enjoy it).

[Dixanadu]

Yeah, it's bad. And what's this I'm hearing about not accepting overqualified? That seems like an incredibly bad idea. For every party involved.

What Phylum said. I also think that the average working class turns their nose down at anyone with at least one high-standard degree.

[Phylum]

HEY STM I MADE A JOKE ABOUT MUSICIANS

[Nate]

If you have a university degree and you apply for a job as a check-out chick, people are smart enough to work out that it's not something that you want to do and that you'll probably be actively looking for better work the entire time you're there.

This reminds me a conversation I had with my dad recently.

Dad: "You know, you should be applying for some sort of retail job just to get yourself by until you get a real job."
Me: "Yeah, I know. But it's not easy to get a job anywhere that they know you're not going to be there long-term."
Dad: "So? Tell them you'll be there long-term."
Me: "They'll see it on my resume that I have higher ambitions."
Dad: "Change your resume, then."
Me: "And what do I put in there for the last four and a half years?"
Dad: "I don't know... Make something up!"
Me: "Weren't you telling me last week how easy it is to tell when someone is lying on their resume?"
Dad: "Yes, but you won't be detected."
Me: "Why?"
Dad: "Because you're smarter than the people applying to work for me."*
Then the conversation went around in circles for several minutes as I objected to lying on my resume on general principles and dad told me to do it anyway.




* Dad is a lawyer and he's been trying to hire a new lawyer for his firm. Apparently the standard of young lawyers out there is rather poor.

[STM]

HEY STM I MADE A JOKE ABOUT MUSICIANS

MUSICIANS ARE NO LAUGHING MATTER.

[Jordan]

This reminds me a conversation I had with my dad recently.

Dad: "You know, you should be applying for some sort of retail job just to get yourself by until you get a real job."
Me: "Yeah, I know. But it's not easy to get a job anywhere that they know you're not going to be there long-term."
Dad: "So? Tell them you'll be there long-term."
Me: "They'll see it on my resume that I have higher ambitions."
Dad: "Change your resume, then."
Me: "And what do I put in there for the last four and a half years?"
Dad: "I don't know... Make something up!"
Me: "Weren't you telling me last week how easy it is to tell when someone is lying on their resume?"
Dad: "Yes, but you won't be detected."
Me: "Why?"
Dad: "Because you're smarter than the people applying to work for me."*
Then the conversation went around in circles for several minutes as I objected to lying on my resume on general principles and dad told me to do it anyway.


* Dad is a lawyer and he's been trying to hire a new lawyer for his firm. Apparently the standard of young lawyers out there is rather poor.

I think it's time you whored yourself out Nate.

[Nate]

Are you hoping to be my first John, Jordan?

[STM]

It's not even like the Melbourne street corners are cold.

[Dixanadu]

I wouldn't go into the prostitution business. Aside from being at a high risk of contracting STDs, I hear the social lifestyle will make you sad.

[Jordan]

I wouldn't mind being a prostitute as long as they had big dicks

[STM]

I was offered a job as a male escort last year. I declined. Then I got a job at a warehouse and had a break down in November.

Haha life choices.

[Nate]

I wouldn't mind being a prostitute as long as they had big dicks

You're fine with fat, hairy, ugly and old as long as they have big dicks?

[Slog Bait]

I figured his logic was: "If it feels good, who gives a shit?"

[Jordan]

You're fine with fat, hairy, ugly and old as long as they have big dicks?

Hell yeah.

[Nate]

I... uhhh...

I'm fighting the urge to split this off to a 'Jordan's Sex Life' thread.

[Dixanadu]

"If it feels good, who gives a shit?"

There's a joke in there somewhere, but I can't seem to find the right words.

[JennyGenesis]

Finding a job is fucking depression, it took me 6 months when I started looking, then I managed to land my job I have now by complete coincidence.

I spent my student loan on buying myself a car, a week later a friend puts on Facebook that she just got a job at my local Domino's Pizza. Somebody commented asking if they are hiring and she said only drivers. So I dropped off my application form, 2 hours later they phone me up wanting me to go down for an interview, so I was in a massive panic at 7 o clock in the evening trying to gather my documents and make myself look presentable. 1 years and 4 months later I'm still there. It's my first and only job.

[Phylum]

I'm going to start whoring out my brain to highschool students who are struggling with music subjects.

[Nate]

What's the rule on getting in touch with employers who promised to get back to you but haven't?

I got an email on the 8th of February saying that (long story short) the HR person would look in to whether they would be able to hire me internationally. I hadn't heard back 10 days later so I emailed her asking for an update and she replied on the 19th saying that she's still looking in to it, but would I like to do a programming exercise now rather than waiting until after the response? I did that, sent it off, got a confirmation on the 21st saying that she'd received it and "let me know the results".

Where's the line between appearing eager and appearing neurotic/annoying? Am I fine to email her again for an update or should I hold out longer?

[Xavier]

In my experience, and yes I do have a job in my field, one week is a good time to wait to get back if the HR person needs to check an exercise.

[gishygleb]

Try asking her direct questions, for an instance, "When the answer is to be?"

Really, that type of email is better, than something like this:

miss im so mad u dont be fair i just want new .jobs so i can collect more and add to my collection and u wont give me the password so i can get more progress on custom jobs i dont knwow what ur problem is i just want to know when hard custom jobs will be availible pls email me the results sorry thanks