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Slaveless · #61 11-25-2006, 11:51 AM

My, I don't think we are getting anywhere.

Perry, making an object that is 4-D in cyber space must mean that it would be just as easy to draw a 4-D object. Well, it isn't. You would either make something that looks a lot like something 3-D, or something that doesn't really make sense. It would be like making a human atamony in one drawing. Do you know how hard it is to draw the skin on top, then the muscles, and lastily the skeleton on the same human body? Humans wouldn't be able to comprehend that. Let us all stick to the toys that we all agree that can be done.

magic9mushroom · #62 12-03-2006, 03:07 PM

You're wrong. You can create 4D cyber-objects, but you can only view a 2D slice at once, due to the fact that computer screens are 2D.

Strike Witch · #63 12-03-2006, 11:53 PM

WHICH IS 2D ANYWAY.

End of debate, you can't make it because you can't put it on the screen.

magic9mushroom · #64 12-04-2006, 02:56 PM

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WHICH IS 2D ANYWAY.

End of debate, you can't make it because you can't put it on the screen.

You have exactly zero idea what you are talking about. You are a n00b. You cannot even comprehend what you are trying to talk about and I am talking about so S T F U.

Okay, you can project a cube, which is 3D, onto a 2D surface, such as a piece of paper. You can show a perspective view of a 3D object on a 2D screen. You can do exactly the same with a 4D object on a 2D screen. It is slightly harder however.

Bullet Magnet · #65 12-04-2006, 06:00 PM

More sensible would be to project a 4-Dimensional object into a 3-Dimensional one, like a hologram. It would then only require the 3D slices to be shown in sequence, and viola! 4D TV.

Then, if it physically appears 3D, and we know that 3D can be represented on a 2D format, then it only remains to render a 3D cross-section onto a 2D screen, and then show the sequence of fourth-dimensional images strung together.

And there you have it. Disney/Pixar's Toy Story.

magic9mushroom · #66 12-05-2006, 04:13 PM

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More sensible would be to project a 4-Dimensional object into a 3-Dimensional one, like a hologram. It would then only require the 3D slices to be shown in sequence, and viola! 4D TV.

Then, if it physically appears 3D, and we know that 3D can be represented on a 2D format, then it only remains to render a 3D cross-section onto a 2D screen, and then show the sequence of fourth-dimensional images strung together.

And there you have it. Disney/Pixar's Toy Story.

No. It is easier to do it in one hit. I can handle 3D surface volumes of 4D Hyperspheres.

BTW, here's a bit of plot synopsis.

Humans, in the future, discover how to travel in 4-space. They go looking for other membranes to colonise, and soon find many small membranes. On one of these, they find some silicon-based lifeforms, that they then have skirmishes with. In one of these, a command center is lost, which contains details of hyperspatial technology. The silicon-based creatures immediately start spreading and attacking the humans. Later some totally biological creatures arrive and reveal that the silicon-based ones were exiles from them, but have now escaped their prison...

Sirap · #67 12-05-2006, 04:27 PM

I would definitely like to see something that resembles a 4D object. If it's as easy as this person is saying, then any simpleton can do it. :-p

G.A.Pster · #68 12-05-2006, 09:50 PM

Irt thread: Uh, aren’t there only 3 dimensions length, with and height?

***Nate*** · #69 12-05-2006, 10:09 PM

Read the entire thread. We really don't need a repeat of that discussion.

Strike Witch · #70 12-06-2006, 12:53 AM

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You have exactly zero idea what you are talking about. You are a n00b. You cannot even comprehend what you are trying to talk about and I am talking about so S T F U.

Okay, you can project a cube, which is 3D, onto a 2D surface, such as a piece of paper. You can show a perspective view of a 3D object on a 2D screen. You can do exactly the same with a 4D object on a 2D screen. It is slightly harder however.

Pray tell, good sir, pray tell your wonderous and no doubt learned qualifications in the field of putting 2D pictures of 4D objects on 2D screens! Let us gaze upon your mightily written and incontrovertible papers, which are no dubt right now turning Physics on its head!

Look, you cannot make a 4D game anymore than you can put a Black Hole in a small cardboard box. If you can give us a game demo, even a screen test of this, I would be happy to change my opinion.

So please, go ahead.

snuzi · #71 12-06-2006, 07:40 AM

Yes, please show us anything, anything at all. I would really love to see how a 15 year old is able to create a 4 dementional game before game designers have even fully mastered the 3rd demensional gaming platform

magic9mushroom · #72 12-06-2006, 05:26 PM

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Yes, please show us anything, anything at all. I would really love to see how a 15 year old is able to create a 4 dementional game before game designers have even fully mastered the 3rd demensional gaming platform

I never said it would be a good game.

snuzi · #73 12-06-2006, 05:32 PM

Whatever you say. Just please, show us what progress you've made so far. I'm really anticipating it

magic9mushroom · #74 12-06-2006, 05:39 PM

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Whatever you say. Just please, show us what progress you've made so far. I'm really anticipating it

I have to wait until the holidays you see

snuzi · #75 12-06-2006, 06:11 PM

And why is that exactly?

Strike Witch · #76 12-06-2006, 08:36 PM

(snort)

Yes, why would that be?

Al the Vykker · #77 12-07-2006, 03:31 PM

I just want to see one day a very satisfying virtual reality experience based off of real life environments, etc. Sure it would be one of the largest undertakings but the fun factor of being able to play say a SWAT type game in like a warehouse or apartment complex in a city or town near you throwing over the boxes, etc. would be one of the most satisfying and intense experiences ever without the danger of real life consequences of course.

magic9mushroom · #78 12-07-2006, 04:23 PM

Al: WTF?

The others: GameMaker is on the intranet but I can't use it at school.

snuzi · #79 12-07-2006, 05:11 PM

Have you ever even attempted to make a 2-D game? Because if ya have, you know how difficult it is to make an original one.

Slaveless · #80 12-07-2006, 05:36 PM

I just have one question. Would a 4-D game be any better than a simple 2-D game? I mean, I'm already sastified with my little 3-D Stranger's Wrath.

I'm agreeing with Al here. I would just love to see a nice game, mimicing reality of what we see. I don't think 4-D games would really change the quality of graphics really.

snuzi · #81 12-07-2006, 05:38 PM

I agree. If it's gonna suck, it won't matter whether it's 2-D or 7-D. It'll still be completely senseless to play.