Adios.

[Dino]

It is with some sadness that I inform you all, that this will be the last time I post on these forums. Deciding to leave the forums has been a hard decision to make, but essentially one that has been unavoidable after the month of deliberation that led up to this point.

This decision has come at a point in my life when many things are changing, and priorities are shifting. There are a lot of things going on that need to be sorted out before I can re-assess my situation and move on, which means that I am in a state of limbo at the moment. But the one thing that is for certain, and that is I cannot continue my commitment to this forum any longer.

I'll be sticking around a while (until tomorrow) to answer questions in this thread, and to pick up any last few PMs. After that I'll be gone. I don't know if I'll be making a visit in the future, and I don't particularly want to make any promises I can't keep, but I'll certainly try to pop in to say hello again and see how you are all doing one day.

So, to conclude, I would like to thank and say goodbye to everyone who has provided me with hours of entertainment and good quality discussion. Thanks go out to: Jacob, Rich, Super Munch, Kimon, Ambi, Searex, Nepharski, Coolmanbizkit, Soulstice, T-Nex, and Oddish. Adios, amigos, it's been fun! I'm gunna miss you all.

Take care of yourselves.

[Kimon]

Ouch. Didn't see that coming. Ummm... hmmm. Well man, I hope you do what you hope to, or find what you're looking for, or accomplish whatever it is that made you want to leave the forums. You were a cool member, and I really am sad to see you go.

Farewell, dude.

Think of me on 4/20.

[Dino]

Think of me on 4/20.

I'll be sure to smoke a blunt for ya.

I'll see about getting a photo of my weed on here too - I know that's something that I promised to do and never got round to... so I'll be sure to do it before I leave.

[Leto]

Aww, why do the pretty ones have to go!?

Seeya man, you appeared to be a sentient human amongst the rush of new n00bs.

I wish you luck in your travels...

[T-nex]

Awww... Ye leavin'? Just as i started to like you.

I hoped it wouldn't end this way, and i really hope you'll return some day.
Anyways, take care, and don't give up your ideas in the future, because of some challenge. Challenge is good.

Goodbye,
T-nex

[Rich]

See ya man, I won't forget you in a hurry.

[Hobo]

Bye!
(10chars)

[Oddish]

Thanks dude.

Going already? To be honest, I still don't know why you joined the forums in the first place, since you don't have an interest in oddworld.

Well good bye then, Dino.

[AquaticAmbi]

I was mentioned in your thanks? Well, I certainly feel like I've missed something...

Anywho, I have two separate messages for you, depending on who you are. Please don't take offense by my posting both:

a) If you aren't Codek/Mawk/whoever, then I apologize on behalf of everyone who ever accused you for being him, including myself... sort of. (I went back and deleted part of a PM which implied you had some very similar characteristics. Anyway, while you had some ideas and such that I didn't agree with, some intelligence did show through--and a bit of witty humor too at times. For posts showing those traits, you will be missed.

I still think perhaps you take the forums a bit too seriously, and because of that, get a bit defensive too often at harmless comments.

b) If you are codek/mawk/whoever, then well, just tell us. What harm could it do? You are leaving afterall. I bet most members wouldn't get angry over it. I can see why after being banned, you would want to come back... perhaps after regretting past mistakes. (That would also explain why you've seemed to be wanting more special recognition since you'd technically wouldn't be a new member.) Anyway, people can change, and I believe in giving second chances. But since you are leaving, I suppose you're not interested in a second chance.

Of course, you could be Codek, and just trying to see how long you could fool everyone and what kind of drama you could create. In that case, I say you should look into getting a "real" life.

Whoever you are, farewell and stuff--unless it's person b. If you're codek or whoever, there's no point in saying bye then, is there? I'll just be seeing you around on another account someday.

[Coolmanbizkit]

Bye bye Dino,
Hope you have time to come back one day

[T-nex]

If you are codek/mawk/whoever, then well, just tell us. What harm could it do? You are leaving afterall. I bet most members wouldn't get angry over it.

Well, maybe he just likes keeping us curious or whatever. But i guess, that if he really told that he was Mawk/codek/whatever, evryone would give him a much more unfair treatment than this... But i can't be sure...

As it is, i think that he got treated very unfairly, when people started noticing his resemblence to Mawk/codek.
But what if he aint? What if we just haunted someone completely innocent away, even though i myself, is still in doubt. I wouldn't want to judge anyone if i'm in doubt...

[Nepharski]

Dino? I deny any knowledge of this, "Dino," of which you speak.



Seeya.

[Dino]

I was mentioned in your thanks? Well, I certainly feel like I've missed something...

Anywho, I have two separate messages for you, depending on who you are. Please don't take offense by my posting both:

a) If you aren't Codek/Mawk/whoever, then I apologize on behalf of everyone who ever accused you for being him, including myself... sort of. (I went back and deleted part of a PM which implied you had some very similar characteristics. Anyway, while you had some ideas and such that I didn't agree with, some intelligence did show through--and a bit of witty humor too at times. For posts showing those traits, you will be missed.

I still think perhaps you take the forums a bit too seriously, and because of that, get a bit defensive too often at harmless comments.

b) If you are codek/mawk/whoever, then well, just tell us. What harm could it do? You are leaving afterall. I bet most members wouldn't get angry over it. I can see why after being banned, you would want to come back... perhaps after regretting past mistakes. (That would also explain why you've seemed to be wanting more special recognition since you'd technically wouldn't be a new member.) Anyway, people can change, and I believe in giving second chances. But since you are leaving, I suppose you're not interested in a second chance.

Of course, you could be Codek, and just trying to see how long you could fool everyone and what kind of drama you could create. In that case, I say you should look into getting a "real" life.

Whoever you are, farewell and stuff--unless it's person b. If you're codek or whoever, there's no point in saying bye then, is there? I'll just be seeing you around on another account someday.

The only thing that I'll confess to is that the above is exactly the reason I left. I didn't sign up to put up with this shit, and I'm not going to stay to put up with it either. I recently did a little reading around the forums, just to see how things have been going, and as a result I've ended up removing Facs and Hobo from my list of thanks. I wonder who else harbours a dislike of me but doesn't even have the integrity of character so much as to be forthcoming with one's opinion.

So I'm Reese am I? Great, I finally get a label to help people create an image to attack, just like the wussy Frenchman. Dehumanising an enemy is always the best way to incite a heavier offensive: Gooks in Vietnam, Towelheads in the Gulf - they aren't people, or human beings, just a label. Hey, what about the idiots that I talk about? It's the same with that isn't it? No, it isn't, because they deserve what they get for being an idiot. Unlike them, I am able to form sentences, and make valid points - IE the forums would be a better place if we didn't allow them to get away with so much SHIT. If you read more than two lines, you might've noticed this. But, hey, I don't want to prevent you from using the right to spend $0.02, and trying to brush this under the proverbial carpet.

Can we have a Brick Wall forum? It may help for a variety of reasons - it seems to fit the bill with the "I say we kick the shit out of idiots..." thread, the true subject of which you all continue to try and drag, screaming, from the public eye. I try to make a point, and immediately the overwhelming majority of people start deflecting the attention to a disagreement that they have instigated because they are either too busy calling me reese/codek/mawk, or they're too pig ignorant to understand the actual subject and what is being proposed. Either that or they feign the ignorance to cause me ire (which I highly suspect to be the case...although idiocy is definately latent if not apparant).

To be frank and down to the point, I don't care enough to spend all my time in each and every thread of mine explaining things to people who just don't get it, either deliberately or because they're simply stupid. Also there seems to be many of the type of people who believe that they can justify their own hypocrisy (Read: Dipstikk) but I am disapproved of, forming an anti-idiot argument despite the "fact" that I'm "no angel" myself. Double hypocrisy doesn't have even a fraction of the kind of rhetoric potency required to sum up how exasperating and exacerbating such a literate travesty is. And dealing with it all is more tiresome than running a marathon in a diving suit.

I've moved to a different forum to escape all this, and escape it I have. I am now a respected member of a community, which is intelligent enough to not require everything being spelled out in laymens terms.

So, pat yourself on the back Oddworld Forums, because your mountain ranges of stupidity are defeating even the most eloquent of lingual climbers. All this place is ever going to be is a tiny little insignificant community of morons that barely even scrape the bottom 1% of understanding anything... at all. I am left both incredulous and embittered at the general incoherancy of this place, rest assured you have made my blacklist, and from here on in, I will no longer speak with praise or approval of the Oddworld Forums, and only remember those who made this site somewhat bareable. Looking back now I have no idea what possessed me to sign up here - I don't even like you or Oddworld.

Thank god for these moments of menthol clarity we all sometimes have. I've been wanting to get all this off my chest for longer than jesus has existed.

[AquaticAmbi]

Oh noez! We're on the... blacklist! Dun dun dun!

Humph, you didn't even read my whole post--part a, that is. I'm one of the few members that gave you the benefit of doubt. Anywho, enjoy your new membership at the other forum.

[Voodoo Hand]

My God, i don`t know if i can carry on without Dino`s stamp of approval !!
Am thinking about opening a couple of veins as i pound this out.

Oh, how i will miss his self-importent ramblings , that marvelous condescending
style, and most of all, that self-appointed infallibilty.
It`s a dark day indeed when fine members like StingBee and Dino abandon this forum.

Dino,when you get it in writing ( other than your`s, of course) that you are indeed GOD, please post it here , than we will worship your words and opinions
like you think we should, untill then Piss Off

It`s doubtful that it ever occurred to you , what with that Jumbo Ego in overdrive all the time, that folks would not call you Reese, if you would quit fucking posting like Reese

Please rest assured that your reply to AquaticAmbi is one of the most pompous crocks of shit i have had the pleasure of reading, this will be a hollow place with out you.

Bye now, don`t forget to write.

[Leto]

Wow, just wow, Voodoo. What a 'OMG BAI BI HAVE PHUN' good-bye.

Dino's most recent post is not without provocation. He chose an unlikely time to join the forums, right about after Mawks banning due to questionable avatar choices. And since he has been a member, he has ben acused as Mawk, or Codek. Or, on ocassion, Reese. But now, he's just been driven away by lots of people's opinions.

Well, there goes one more literate member... This hasn't made OWF much of a better place.

I bid thee farewell, Dino. I hope on the other forums you are accepted as a new member.

[Hobo]

The only thing that I'll confess to is that the above is exactly the reason I left. I didn't sign up to put up with this shit, and I'm not going to stay to put up with it either. I recently did a little reading around the forums, just to see how things have been going, and as a result I've ended up removing Facs and Hobo from my list of thanks. I wonder who else harbours a dislike of me but doesn't even have the integrity of character so much as to be forthcoming with one's opinion.

So I'm Reese am I? Great, I finally get a label to help people create an image to attack, just like the wussy Frenchman. Dehumanising an enemy is always the best way to incite a heavier offensive: Gooks in Vietnam, Towelheads in the Gulf - they aren't people, or human beings, just a label. Hey, what about the idiots that I talk about? It's the same with that isn't it? No, it isn't, because they deserve what they get for being an idiot. Unlike them, I am able to form sentences, and make valid points - IE the forums would be a better place if we didn't allow them to get away with so much SHIT. If you read more than two lines, you might've noticed this. But, hey, I don't want to prevent you from using the right to spend $0.02, and trying to brush this under the proverbial carpet.

Can we have a Brick Wall forum? It may help for a variety of reasons - it seems to fit the bill with the "I say we kick the shit out of idiots..." thread, the true subject of which you all continue to try and drag, screaming, from the public eye. I try to make a point, and immediately the overwhelming majority of people start deflecting the attention to a disagreement that they have instigated because they are either too busy calling me reese/codek/mawk, or they're too pig ignorant to understand the actual subject and what is being proposed. Either that or they feign the ignorance to cause me ire (which I highly suspect to be the case...although idiocy is definately latent if not apparant).

To be frank and down to the point, I don't care enough to spend all my time in each and every thread of mine explaining things to people who just don't get it, either deliberately or because they're simply stupid. Also there seems to be many of the type of people who believe that they can justify their own hypocrisy (Read: Dipstikk) but I am disapproved of, forming an anti-idiot argument despite the "fact" that I'm "no angel" myself. Double hypocrisy doesn't have even a fraction of the kind of rhetoric potency required to sum up how exasperating and exacerbating such a literate travesty is. And dealing with it all is more tiresome than running a marathon in a diving suit.

I've moved to a different forum to escape all this, and escape it I have. I am now a respected member of a community, which is intelligent enough to not require everything being spelled out in laymens terms.

So, pat yourself on the back Oddworld Forums, because your mountain ranges of stupidity are defeating even the most eloquent of lingual climbers. All this place is ever going to be is a tiny little insignificant community of morons that barely even scrape the bottom 1% of understanding anything... at all. I am left both incredulous and embittered at the general incoherancy of this place, rest assured you have made my blacklist, and from here on in, I will no longer speak with praise or approval of the Oddworld Forums, and only remember those who made this site somewhat bareable. Looking back now I have no idea what possessed me to sign up here - I don't even like you or Oddworld.

Thank god for these moments of menthol clarity we all sometimes have. I've been wanting to get all this off my chest for longer than jesus has existed.

Calm down Reese.

EDIT:

http://oddworldforums.net/showthread...0&page=1&pp=40

Read all the posts by Reese in that. Best memory of the forums. EVER.

[AquaticAmbi]

Mawks banning due to questionable avatar

Didn't you see Mawk's signature that went along with the avatar? It said something like, "Mawk's account just got fuxored by Codek." Mawk was definitely Codek. Heh, if Codek really had the power to hack accounts he would SO go after some new, insignificant member.

[Dino]

Dino,when you get it in writing ( other than your`s, of course) that you are indeed GOD, please post it here , than we will worship your words and opinions
like you think we should, untill then Piss Off

It`s doubtful that it ever occurred to you , what with that Jumbo Ego in overdrive all the time, that folks would not call you Reese, if you would quit fucking posting like Reese

Have you ever considered that I'm not after something as mundane as the respect of a myriad of posters, who I don't respect myself? Maybe, just maybe, I'm using this board to post things with MEANING, which are then ignored for being "reese/mawk/codek-esque", or misunderstood, causing me to explain myself, or whatever other crime I commit that somehow gives you a liscense to cause me ire. If I truly gave half a shit about being some pretty image of foruming perfection, do you not think that I would have perhaps spent more time on being your idea of "nice" and "acceptable" rather than express myself without a care of what others think? I'm sorry but whatever you're accusing me of doing is always going to be equally as bad as the arrogance that it takes for you to demand that I conform to your idea of how I should act.

You and everyone else like you who jumps on the proverbial drama bandwagon (can't blame them since this place is so boring) aren't important enough for me to want to impress with a false front, you simply make normal forum discourse impossible with your incessant bitching about whatever new crime it is that I'm committing (which is usually me explaining myself to someone who doesn't fucking get it). That is the only reason you get ANY attention from me at all. I'm only posting in this thread in free time, to perhaps get you to understand my position properly, and as such this is occupying time that I would rather spend talking to people I actually even give a shit about. Just another demonstration of my point - I'm only talking to you now because you're attacking my character and there are things that need explaining to you. Not because I'm pompous or whatever.

Super Munch appears to get the idea, but I've not been driven away by opinions - I've been driven away by the fact that I can't use this damn forum because whenever I do, I get bogged down each time by the incomprehensible amount of explaining that I need to do to people who take the topic off topic, probably in an attempt to cause drama. Then my explaining is construed as arguing and thinking that I'm always right. Like now for instance. I can't even come back to check up on stuff without seeing that shitty stuff is being said about me... and it compells me to respond. Who wouldn't want to? If it's your reputation on the line somewhere, well... you want a fair trial. Suffice to say it, just throwing a couple of mildly offensive words around (moron, asshole, idiot) doesn't really rectify the situation. Making a wordy post does, because it should be apparant from such posts to those of you who are actually intelligent that I am not what these people say I am. And all of those who are too stupid to understand what is being said don't matter.

But they still get in the way, so a lay explaination may be in order later.

Perhaps I do act like mawk or whoever, but what does it matter? These people clearly already stubbornly believe that whenever I express an opinion I'm not just adding my two cents, no, I also expect everyone to agree with me. Like I even fucking care if anyone agrees with me or not. It's never stopped me before. Infact I wouldn't have such a problem with people disagreeing with me if they actually understood/comprehend enough to come to a legitimate conclusion. This is a convenient attack in most cases; I offer my opinion, someone misunderstands it becaues they're stupid, I clarify, then I get accused of thinking that I'm always right because I 'argue with anyone who disagrees with my opinion'. Clever troll, but glaringly wrong to anyone with an ounce of sense.

There is a difference between arguing and clarifying - it's apparant to most people but obviously some here apparantly do not understand it, or feign a lack of understanding since it's a convenient doorway to easy trolling. Even this post in itself can be accused of me believing that I'm always right. To them it's not clarifying/arguing my case, or explaining myself to someone who does not fully understand.

I've seen it done so many times before, it's not even funny. If you misunderstand my opinion, then my correcting you on it does not mean that I'm accusing you of being stupid (although I basically have reached that conclusion now), and it does not mean that I'm trying to convince you to agree with my opinions. This should be apparant to you, but in so many damn cases it hasn't been. You wonder why I'm leaving? It's because you literally are stupid. I can't operate in a forum full of people who are so idiotic that they can niether understand what's being said, nor can they understand that the simpler explaination that inevitably follows is not an attempt to get you to fucking worship me.

I've gone over it again and again and again in this post, and I bet at least one of you will still misunderstand me. And if you do, you're just serving to prove my point further.

EDIT: oh yes, then you of course have the people who will say "but you're clearly insulting me" - to which I point out that for all you've caused me you earned it - and "for someone who doesn't give a shit you sure cared enough to explain yourself" - to which I point out that you aren't going to get away that easy, I may not give a shit, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to stand by and let you talk shit about me, because that kinda crap has implications far beyond just you not liking me.

[Hobo]

Leave already you moany bitch.

[Dino]

Leave already you moany bitch.

Yeah, no need to elaborate on that 5 word single sentence post, because people already respect you to such a degree that you don't even need to justify anything.

Are you really so arrogant that you believe it's perfectly acceptable for you to string together a contentless, vile, spiteful posting consiting of curse words and other such ineloquencies, but for everyone else it's unacceptable? Are you really so naive that you expect to recieve no response from me whatsoever after being a spiteful whiny prick toward me, and you're actually incredulous when you get one, and even express disbelief that I'm somewhat hostile toward you?

Your one sidedness makes me laugh, bitterly. The way you sheep around with all the other deranged Dino=Reese theorists and take random potshots at me, firmly stamps "hypocrisy" on the zit ridden forehead of your anti-Dino tirades without me having to utter a word

You're not a respected member, you're a postcount with an idiot hanging off it. Just like everyone else who believes that their joindate gives them a liscense to act like a dickwad.

[Hobo]

So what if i only have one argument, it's enough to piss you off it seems, which is what i'm intending to do.

That and make you leave.

[Dino]

So what if i only have one argument, it's enough to piss you off it seems, which is what i'm intending to do.

That and make you leave.

Because you have nothing better to do with your time? It wouldn't suprise me. Personally I have better things to do, so I'll make this short.

Once again Hobo, you prove how pathetic you really are without me having to even utter a single word. And yet again you attempt to shift the topic of conversation to yourself. As if you weren't already a giant, self collapsing vortex of hypocrisy, you yourself act exactly how I imagine this 'mawk' would, if presented with the same situation.

You flatter yourself with outrageous claims to the effect of "I managed to piss you off", and state your rather laughable intentions to "make [me] leave", announced in a thread, in which I announce that I am leaving anyway. No doubt so that once I have left for good, you can claim it to be your doing and further inflate your already bloated ego.

The fact that you are proposing to "make [me] leave" in my leaving thread, speaks for itself I believe.

[Dipstikk]

"Oh, you guys are dicks and I'm leaving in a huff, but oh wait I think I'll stick around for the sole purpose of replying to your arguements."

Admit it, you love us too much to leave. Darn these Oddworld Forums, they're like an addiction.

Gotta get in that last word, dontchya Dino?

[Dino]

"Oh, you guys are dicks and I'm leaving in a huff, but oh wait I think I'll stick around for the sole purpose of replying to your arguements."

Admit it, you love us too much to leave. Darn these Oddworld Forums, they're like an addiction.

Gotta get in that last word, dontchya Dino?

I am not "leaving in a huff". I am absolutely emotionally indifferent at the moment. I am leaving because, as I said, normal discourse has become impossible, this forum doesn't suit me, and I have a more busy schedual/priority shift. Technically I'm not leaving, but for the most part, effectively, I am.

As for getting in the last word; I am online, and people are directing dialogue toward me. I'm doing what's logical and expected in this situation, and it's known as responding. Generally, the person who responds does get the last word (that's a side effect of responding to something, since, you know, a response tends to come after not before), unless someone says something after the response that does not require a response. Capische?

I do not "love [you] too much to leave" either. I feel slightly saddened to be parting company with a few people that I have grown to like, but I've only been here a couple of months, not nearly long enough to become permanently attatched. Although some people may argue that I've been here since Reese registered.

[Dipstikk]

Look, Dino. I don't know what your definition of "I'm leaving" is, but in Dipstikkland, that phrase means that you pack your things and walk out the door, and not just say you're leaving and stick around, addressing replies.

That's not leaving. That's a term we call "staying."

Take a hint from Stingbee. He actually LEFT.

[Voodoo Hand]

Well ,i for one have now seen the light.

Dino is right, i do not have the intellectually capability to deal with his massive
philosophical postings.
i would like to thank him for informing me over,and over,and over,and over,and over again that if he must explain his position to me that i must be stupid.
From now on my entire life`s force will be directed to not being stupid.
i vow to use Dino as my shining example and perhaps,with a little luck and mucho work, i too may be able to refer to myself as one of

the most eloquent of lingual climbers

Respectfully yours,
the hand (aspiring climber)

OK ,you have not been referred to as anyone else.
i have promised not to be stupid.

Will you please fucking leave.

[T-nex]

OMG! Why can't you guys just shut up? I'm getting really sick by this. It's your fault that he doesn't leave, don't you see?
If you really want him to leave, then just shut up, and stop talking behind his back.
If i left, and people did that to me, i'd of course come back and defend myself, untill they stopped.

Take a hint from Stingbee. He actually LEFT.

And Dipstikk, that's not true either... As far as i remember, he was banned... I check "Who's online" alot, and i keep seeing him on the list. So no, he didn't leave, he's just not allowed to post or whatsoever. Use another example please...

Dino was a worthy member, but his image got ruined by the whole "reese"-thing.
Just lay off him, don't post in his threads, or insult him, and i'm sure that he wont come back to "bother" you again.

[Hobo]

I don't leave because it pisses you off...

Sound familiar?

[Kimon]

OMG! Why can't you guys just shut up? I'm getting really sick by this. It's your fault that he doesn't leave, don't you see?
If you really want him to leave, then just shut up, and stop talking behind his back.
If i left, and people did that to me, i'd of course come back and defend myself, untill they stopped.

Common sense rears it's ugly head. Take a hint, guys.