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Originally posted by Melvin:squeeking paramite
1. I know, I never said it wasn't. :P (1)
3. I have seen some stupid reasons, but my complaints were perfectly reasonable.
4. Alcar, I was kidding... It was just in reply to the "slaughtered opinions" part. I didn't mean it seriously.
5. I never whined about it being on the Xbox. It would have been just the same if it were on PS2, to me. And I didn't say any thing about Sobe... As for the childish part, I would never dumb down a game just to get small children using my name as a household word...
6. Oh, come on... you practically dragged me in this topic, beat me with a stick and forced me to criticize it... ;P (winky tongue...)
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1. Heh! *sarcasm*
3. I never yours were stupid.
4. I know, but i needed to reply to that numbered question :P
5. I know you never whined about it being on the Xbox or SoBe, but its all linked in the end. Oddworld still seems like a challenge, I ask all of you have you found ALL the secrets in MO yet? Or are they too strategicly hidden away? (And im sure someone has found some)
6. *drags Melvin out of topic and beats him with a stick*
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Originally posted by Dragadon
Might as well put my two cents in.
The main reason I am not into Oddworld as much any more is that I am not into video games as much as I used to anymore. The reason for that I believe is me getting a computer...(two now)...well that explains the console video games anyway...though I don't have that many computer games.
I mean...you're looking at a dragon that used to beat games within a week of getting them...now I have bunches of games I never finished and some I never even started.
To be honest...I think the only reason I ever got MO (and with it the X-Box) was to spite someone...(who shall remain nameless...though my close friends on here will know who I am talking about ). Now that I have beaten it...the X-Box is nothing but an expensive paperweight...gathering dust as there are no other X-Box games that really catch my interest, in fact I am thinking of turning it in to the video game store here in town to get store credit for something else. (been meaning to do that with some of the games I no longer play as well).
Ok...I am getting off topic...back on
About MO...I was disappointed with it. Yes...I understand OWI moved it the X-Box to make it a better game graphics wise...but in exchange they took out/changed a lot of the content (new species, story lines, etc). (1) And content/plot of the game is just as important...if not more so....then the graphics. And what they had in MO wasn't enough. Example:
When I defected AE with a prefect score and got the extra thing stating we would learn about what happened to Abe's mother, I was thinking: "Yes! We finally get to see female muds!" And was there in MO? No...nadda, zero, zilch, no sign of Sam...though she was going to be in it before the move to the X-Box.(2)
Yes I understand OWI was trying to broaden its playing field...but come on...running around collecting sprooce so you can open locked areas and to enable Abe to possess (and he never needed sprooce to possess his foes in the first two games...thats a big gripe of mine...you should go forward in abilites...and that was going backward.) is stupid ...if I wanted to play a game that had something like that...I would go play Mario or Bango Kazooie... (3)
Game speak...ok...Abe and Munch's were ok...but my beef was with the enemies game speak. Come on! In the other two games enemie game speak had a purpose (open doors Abe can't unlock himself, controling sligs/slogs). In MO they only insult or gloat about themselves...what purpose does that serve? Cheap laughs? LAME! (4)
Ok...I'll admit going around blasting things with a Big Bro/Slig/Snoozer/etc was fun...but then I have the sadistic streak in me. And I have no real qualms about the environments.
Personally...I don't see a message in MO...it got lost somewhere during the transfer to the X-Box. Animal cruely? You see hints of it but not enough to make an impact. Slavery? Could have done better on that if the muds you rescued didn't look like they were supposed to be doing slave work. Confused with that last statment? Well...I am refering to the stupid striped uniforms the muds are wearing...they look too much like prison uniforms...which makes the muds look like criminals that deserved to be treated like that.(5)
Ok...I think I am done now....oy...that ended up longer then I thought...(6)
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1. How do you know that in AO or AE there were masses of things that were taken out, the point is that OWI was very generous with the amount of information that they gave to the public or fans. But when it came to when they had to take stuff out, some got angered. A lot of stuff could have been taken out of AO or AE like I said, but we weren't all that informed.
2. At the end of AO you were able to get the movie featuring the Shrink and his chat with Abe. The Shrink never appeared in any of AE.
3. I agree that spooce wasn't all that neccessary but every game has its flaws. They tried something new, which is a good thing. Whether people like it or not can not be told until the game is released. As you know people hated it.
4. OWI had a deadline to make in getting the game finished so it could be produced and sent away to be one of Xbox's launch titles. OWI up until the very end was still tapping voices, not everything can go into the game such as enemy gamespeak etc, maybe in ME.
5. It is still evident in the game, but im mainly focusing on the Oddworld message. Not the MO Message. And don't ask me to tell you what it is :P
6. Yes, yes you have, thats the longest post so far!
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Originally posted by TheKhanzumer
Alcar, I realize what you are trying to do and understand why, but could you give it a rest? People who no longer like the Oddworld games can't change their interests just because some of us fans on the forums want them to. (1)Although many people were disappointed in MO that is not the reason they lost interest in the games. If they were true fans they wouldn't care about what MO lacked and focus on the possitive. Plus, there are still many more games to come and seeing how OWI is such a fan based game developing company (something rare indeed) they will do their best to give gamers what they want.(2)
As for MO being bad... I wouldn't say that. Munch's Oddysee was to the Oddworld Quintology what Episode 1 was to Star Wars. A very good movie/game that couldn't compared to the originals.(3)
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1. Im not trying to make them change there interests what im trying to do is clear up some reasons or problems MO (Oddworld) is a bad game. I know and chat with people who are feed up with the bitchin that is going on about the problems in MO.
2. I know that, and I know that some dislike MO while they like the first too games, therefore again its problems with MO that they have.
3. Yes, sometimes it is very hard to have your sequels match up to the originals, or maybe people just set their stardards too high, and when it is not met...well you know exactly what I mean, its the same reason I started this topic.
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Originally posted by Gluk Schmuck
MO, a strategy game. Ha!
It's as much a strategy game as Spyro 3, Project Gotham Racing or Mario Kart.(1)
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1. Maybe you are just really, really good at strategy games, I mean you do have lots of Xbox games to practice on
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Originally posted by Xavier
well there is one strategy:
posses a big bro and kill all the other sligs... (1)
you are not realy free to do what you want in the game, it's true.(2)
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1. I'm sure there are many more.
2. MO does have a preset path, but it is also not a path as such as you can travel around alot! It is preset in the fact that you have to start and end at a preset point.
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Originally posted by salty pretzils
I think that making the change to 3D wasn't such a great idea myself.(1) 2D was working really well, it kinda lost some of the novelty for me. The competition is important too. If there are lots of games out there that are better and people would rather play them, it makes MO look bad even though it might be quite a good game. People tend to look at the faults instead of the good points in games...(2)
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1. Your opinion
2. "People tend to look at the faults instead of the good points in games..." Absolutely true!!! Look at this post alone and you'll see how many faults people have proposed.
Well, I have got to admit, that is the longest post i've ever posted, I 've spent quite a while writing it too...45 minutes or less.
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