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Henchman1028 02-16-2014 01:06 PM

Does anyone else prefer Abe's Oddysee over Exoddus?
 
There is something about Abe's Exoddus that makes me not like it as much as Oddysee, even with the improvements like making multiple mudokons follow you, quiksave, etc. I think it might be the atmosphere. Oddysee felt like it had a better atmosphere and environment than Exoddus did.

JayDee 02-16-2014 01:09 PM

Abe's Exoddus was the first Oddworld game I ever played, aswell as the first game I ever played in general. As such it holds a special place in my heart, and though I now play Oddysee more because I've played Exoddus to death, I still prefer Exoddus.

Connell 02-16-2014 03:04 PM

I've always preferred Exoddus but I'm not entirely sure why. Oddysee was my first Oddworld game, and it was years after I owned that before I even knew Exoddus existed. I think it might've be the gameplay length and the overall improvements to gameplay mechanics that appealed to me more at a young age, and thus it has come to be favoured in my mind. I am, however, aware of and appreciate the predominantly better atmosphere and depth Oddysee presents.

MeechMunchie 02-16-2014 03:16 PM

I like Oddysee's forboding, spooky atmosphere a lot more, but I still prefer Exoddus for its artistic variety.

EDIT: So I prefer Æ, is what I'm saying.

Nate 02-16-2014 03:52 PM

I generally prefer Exoddus for having better gameplay (and more of it!). But I acknowledge that AO has better atmosphere and more interesting production design.

STM 02-16-2014 03:59 PM

As with MM, the atmosphere of AO was fantastic and I don't feel AE replicated that. I loved that the Glukkons were borderline unintelligible in the cutscenes for instance. Being able to possess them in AE proved their infallibility was fleeting but it also required them to loose a lot of that mystery that you might expect the executives of enormous businesses to shroud themselves in.

AE though, was just a longer game in general, more variety, as MM said, better gameplay too. I guess I just love them the same but for different reasons...well maybe I love AO a tiny bit more..

Job McYossie 02-16-2014 05:09 PM

I'm definitly sided with AO. I love the atmosphere and the story over that of AE. You could argue that they had almost identical stories, but AO went through the story first, so I didn't get the same mysticism in AE. I also felt like you had a lot less power in AO, which, for me, felt a lot cooler than AE. The thing I always would talk about when I was younger and tried to tell my friends about AO, was that it wasn't like most games, because you had little ways to fight. I thought AE had a lot more times that you could posses enemies. The addition of being able to posses Scrabs and Paramites definitely made me feel a lot more powerful too.

Over all, I revisit Oddysee considerably more, but both games are great. I think I just prefer atmosphere and story over gameplay.

V_O_T 02-16-2014 10:53 PM

Oddysee for me. It was the 1st PS1 game I ever played when I was a wee miscreant. And it was on a demo disk. My earliest memory is being so awe struck when I exploded a slig after possessing it. That and the ambient music + abes chant interested me. Not sure why.

The whole game reminded me of the claymation tv show Plasmo.

Slog Bait 02-17-2014 12:05 AM

AO for me. Definitely.

It pulled me in far more than AE ever did. The faults in the gameplay didn't even bother me until a couple years back, when I suddenly forgot how the fuck to play and kept dying in the first secret area in FFZ because of missed jumps. I actually think that was because of a calibration issue, however.

gishygleb 02-17-2014 01:20 AM

Exoddus is more flexible. Thematically, you could pass the same levels differently. In Oddysee you are bound to do it in the anticipated way.

Jordan 02-17-2014 03:01 AM

I prefer Exoddus. It felt more alien to me. Oddysee still had an incredible atmosphere, but I don't think the alien world was presented as well as it was in Exoddus. They both come very close though.

Phylum 02-17-2014 03:04 AM

Oddyssee == environment and atmosphere

Exoddus == world and gameplay

When I feel like playing one for nostalgia, it's generally pretty random which I end up on, although I'm definitely craving some Exoddus reading this thread.

Xavier 02-17-2014 03:47 AM

Like many of you guys:

Oddysee for its atmosphere.
Exoddus for its gameplay.

Hard to pick one favourite.

pupbenny 02-17-2014 07:12 AM

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There is something about Abe's Exoddus that makes me not like it as much as Oddysee, even with the improvements like making multiple mudokons follow you, quiksave, etc. I think it might be the atmosphere. Oddysee felt like it had a better atmosphere and environment than Exoddus did.

I deduce that this is becuase of the experience of the first time you played it. It, now, brings back fond memories of the 1990's whenever you do play it.

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Crashpunk 02-17-2014 10:29 AM

Exoddus is my favourite. And in fact, My favourite video game of all time.

It felt like Oddysee only polished to perfection. Not only that, but I love the story and the humour. Oddworld was more realized in that game as well. All the different locations you visited helped that fact.

I have a lot of fond memories of Exoddus as well. I played that game before Oddysee and it was one of the first PC games I ever played.

I do agree that Oddysee had a better overall atmosphere. Stockyards and Rupture Farms are still some of the best levels ever created.

Pirfsich 02-17-2014 10:58 AM

I totally agree with Crashpunk.
It is similar to my view.
Not that I don't like Oddysee, but Exoddus was my first game I ever played and my connection to this game in particular is so strong, that Oddysee will never top this!
For me, the gameplay was waaaay richer in Exoddus and the atmosphere in Exoddus was aswell. All the different new enemies, puzzles, areas where just brilliant.
And all that was made in 9 months!
I discovered Oddysee years after I first played Exoddus. That may be the reason why I don't admire it the way I admire Exoddus.

Clannfear 02-17-2014 12:28 PM

Oddysee is amazing because of THE atmosphere. Exoddus is great because of longer story and pretty G*D DAMN good necrum! Overall, I think that Oddysee have something undescribable... The feeling of loneliness and being weak in alien, savage world. This is just amazing. Oddysee, Oddysee, Oddysee... ODDYSEE!

Nepsotic 02-17-2014 12:32 PM

Oddysee was way better. I mean sure, Exoddus plays smoother and has richer mechanics, but it's just booooring. It drags on forever and none of the environments match up to AO's, except maybe the Barracks and the Brewery. And nowhere is the boredom more prominent than in the Brewery. It's just like if you took RF's Zulag 3 and kept adding more rooms to it, that and the mines are just the most grating environments in the game.
AO is always tense, is well paced and pretty fucking funny when it wants to be, whereas with AE it was trying to be too funny and toned down the atmosphere, AE didn't make me laugh as much as AO, but it did have a few good moments.
AE just dragged out for too long, and I get that they were trying to keep it new and fresh with the introduction of new mechanics throughout the game, but it just didn't work.
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G*D DAMN

Please can you not say D!@m on a public forum, I am highly offended by it.
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and the atmosphere in Exoddus was [richer] aswell.

I know it's an opinion, and opinions can't be wrong, but yours is.

Pirfsich 02-17-2014 01:03 PM

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I know it's an opinion, and opinions can't be wrong, but yours is.

Logic...

MeechMunchie 02-17-2014 01:10 PM

... has never been Nep's strongest suit.

Varrok 02-17-2014 01:14 PM

I think opinions can be wrong. Also, I like AO much more than AE, while still liking AE very much.

Pirfsich 02-17-2014 01:17 PM

Oh...okay^^

BTW: Just noticed your banner-quote, MeechMunchie.
lol.

Nepsotic 02-17-2014 01:33 PM

How relevant.
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I think opinions can be wrong. Also, I like AO much more than AE, while still liking AE very much.
I know they can, but I was just trying to be polite.
And yeah, I do enjoy AE, but AO was just much more fun. If it had some of it's flaws fixed, like the unresponsive controls and the ability to only have one Mudokon following you at a time then it would be near-perfect.

Pirfsich 02-17-2014 01:36 PM

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If it had some of it's flaws fixed, like the unresponsive controls and the ability to only have one Mudokon following you at a time then it would be near-perfect.

You're right. But luckily we will have All'ya and Quiksave in New 'n' Tasty!

Slog Bait 02-17-2014 01:39 PM

Has that been confirmed?

Pirfsich 02-17-2014 01:50 PM

Quiksave is in it (said at the Eurogamer Expo2012 - Questions at the end)
And All'ya is in it aswell. I cant remember the interview right now though, sorry.

Edit: You could ask OWI, alternatively.

Nepsotic 02-17-2014 02:42 PM

Well then in that case, if JAW do it right, the remake should be perfect.

Crashpunk 02-17-2014 02:50 PM

Quiksave is in. I remember getting a little too happy when I heard it. :>

Phylum 02-17-2014 02:59 PM

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Well then in that case, if JAW do it right, the remake should be perfect.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

You're going to be the first one crying about how terrible it is. Don't kid yourself.

Jordan 02-17-2014 03:07 PM

I'm so glad about Quicksave being put in. That was one of my favourite things about AE.

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I know it's an opinion, and opinions can't be wrong, but yours is.

I'm not even sure how serious you're being, but if you are, you're on the borderline of being a fucking bully. When will you grow out of this horrendous phase of attacking other people's opinions?

Nepsotic 02-17-2014 03:38 PM

Oh, fuck off, I was being polite. I can attack an opinion if I want, and you're not really one to talk.

MeechMunchie 02-17-2014 03:45 PM

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I'm not even sure how serious you're being, but if you are, you're on the borderline of being a fucking bully.

Don't people have to be scared of you to be a bully?

Slog Bait 02-17-2014 03:45 PM

My favourite part is how Nep rarely attacks the person, just the opinion, but no one seems to have a problem attacking both him as a person and his opinions

Nepsotic 02-17-2014 03:49 PM

Some opinions are fucking stupid, and if calling them out on being fucking stupid is being a bully then yes, I'm a bully. Sorry I'm not a fucking Gary Stu who says 'In my humble opinion' every two seconds, if you're bothered by it then that's not my problem.

JayDee 02-17-2014 03:50 PM

I just don't care.

CRAAAWLING IIIN MY SKIIIIN

Jordan 02-17-2014 03:52 PM

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Oh, fuck off, I was being polite. I can attack an opinion if I want, and you're not really one to talk.

That was the poorest way of being polite I have ever seen. Perhaps the best way of being polite is to say "I disagree with what you said, I feel like AO has the better atmosphere". Instead of "your opinion is wrong". That is foul behaviour. You have a warped sense of what is and isn't okay.

MeechMunchie 02-17-2014 05:09 PM

Well, this is OWF. But even the self-proclaimed dicks of the forum usually make exception for newbies and foreigners. Even Germans!

Nepsotic 02-17-2014 05:14 PM

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Perhaps the best way of being polite is to say "I disagree with what you said, I feel like AO has the better atmosphere".
You don't know me at all.

MeechMunchie 02-17-2014 05:33 PM

I disagree with this opinion the world must know of this

No time to explain any of my reasoning in non-confronational terms

Letting everyone know that I too have an opinion is enough to enrich discussion

It would probably be helpful to refer to some means of evaluation besides my gut response but that would make me look like less of a self-assured tough guy

Oh so little time

Nepsotic 02-17-2014 05:45 PM

So you want me to explain why the atmosphere in AO is so effective for the millionth time? Just shut the fuck up, I'd love to see how the forum goes when nobody is allowed any opinions even for a week. It's built on opinions and discussion, but there's no need to explain them if they've already been explained twenty times.