The Boardroom - how does it work
 

Hi all...this is my first thread on this sight so I hope you all like it.

In Abe's Oddysee the cutscene at the beginning of the game and the last screen of the game you see the boardroom with Mullock on the main platform and the board of directers standing on platforms around the room.

What I really can't get is how the heck they can even leave the room? There is a door that abe peeks his head through to eavsedrop but walking through that door will cause you to fall right down. I mean how can Mullock go anywhere other than his small platform?

I'm guessing the platforms can sorta move around the room, ie; the door.

Yeah they most likely move around on some sort of track, or perhaps there is a retractable catwalk of some kind. The boardroom, I thought, was a design that was very cool but didn't take alot into consideration either. Despite being the place of congregation by the various Cartel executives, it still had the filthy industrial appearance of the rest of the factory. Given the finicky and highly stylish taste of the Glukkons, I find it contradictory to their character that they would agree to meet in such a dank place.

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hmm I have to agree with sekto springs but I I do love the design its really cool I think but The way they get in and out of the boardroom still bugs me.

Something else I thought was weird was is just before the boardroom level starts (the last level) there is a quick cutscene where you see Mullock watching abe possess a slig on the monitor/projector and there aren't any other glukkons in the room but at the end when you drop into the room all of the other glukkons are there screaming "Kill 'em!!!"

Well, that was done for dramatic effect. It was the very last leg of gameplay and you had to use your Shrykull power for something.

As for a reason that adheres to the actual plot, perhaps Molluck called them there to witness Abe's demise, or it could have simply been they were about to have another meeting. Bear in mind Molluck was not in the room at the time, so its open to speculation.

I think due to Molluck's penny-pinching nature, he kept the quality of the boardroom as inexpensive as possible. It's been a while since I looked at it, but I think I remember seeing elevator tracks behind the platforms or something. I used to think they had small doors behind them, but that wouldn't make sense as we know how much space lies between the interior of the boardroom and the outer coridor.

Remember that Rupturefarms was regarded as a fairly low-level posting for Molluck. It may have been the largest meat-processing plant around, but the executives would not have been comparitively wealthy or powerful within the Magog Cartel.

The size of their shoulder-pads say differently. That is, if you're going by the standard Glukkon hierarchy (Pud-Glockstar). It's safe to assume Molluck was, at the very least, at Big Cheese status right? The others had the same attire. So are we just going to chalk that up as an anachronism or acknowledge the hierarchy as presented in MO?

Poor Molluck.

People like you who question Oddworld and Physics are stupid :D

I think I have your answer to why you have the impression nobody likes you over here. By the way you just have broken rule number one here...

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They look like the retract, leaving dumb Glukks who dissagree with Molluck fall into a pit.

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Or they pull back and go to a door.

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Molluck is a Big-Cheese.

You realise you are contradicting what the creator of Oddworld said a few months ago? I know it looks like Molluck is a big cheese, but apparently he only dresses like one.

I thought when Lorne said Chump, he meant that he was a fool to trust his superiors.
And why would Lorne say that Molluck was Lady Maggies favourite son if he was only a Chump. Wouldnt she have chosen somegluk like Tex?

Ah well. If he's a Chump, he's a Chump.

Even though Lorne created a cool universe, things change over time. I doubt the ranks were already around when they made AO or AE, so the size of the shoulder pads means nothing in these cases. To be honest I find the Glockstar rank a little stupid, something that was put in just to give MO that much more comedy. If a movie ever shows up I can almost say with 100% certainty that you won't ever see a Glockstar.

Yes I agree although if there must be a glockstar rank then it shouldn't be the highest rank...instead something like capitalist or president should.

I also must insist Mullock is a Big Cheese regardless of whether the rank system was around back then or not.

Mullok is a low ranking big cheese possibly. A sub-big cheese maybe?

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I think it's safe to assume the status chart is only valid in the areas visited in MO, we can't expect all the Glukkons around Mudos to dress exactly the same.

Maybe Mollock is a Glockstar and just hates dressing like a gay vegas cowboy.

I think this is the best explanation.

The Glockstar status doesn’t seem to be very popular with fans. But it makes perfect sense to me that in Glukkon society it’s the rich and successful businessman that has celebrity status. The outfit may be gharish, but that can be hand-waved by the need to make Glockstars the most visually distinguishing Glukkon rank, and accentuate the Glukkon ego.

Molluck is, by recent word of god, a low-ranking Glukkon. However, when the MO ranks were designed it's quite obvious they intended to correlate Molluck with the rank of Big Cheese. The use of his image in some rank charts supports this. However, this is probably done to convince the audience that Molluck is successful and powerful, and isn’t indicative of Lorne’s idea of the character changing. Molluck’s development through the Quintology sounds quite a fundamental part of it.

For an in-universe explanation, Molluck considers himself king of his own personal corporate empire. It’s this very blindness to his small position in the big scheme of things that makes the revelation so important to his story: it’s a revelation to him, too. But this doesn’t mean Molluck isn’t a Glockstar. These ranks might only apply to the more publicly visible businessmen. Why would an entity as paranoid as the Glukkons let their most powerful individuals have celebrity status? Even Glockstars are probably chumps in the end: after all, even the queen Glukkon is somebody else’s puppet.

And I think it’s pretty fucking obvious that the Glukkon executives in AO are holographic yesmen that don’t need to leave the boardroom. Molluck just turns them on and off whenever he wants. Abe was actually destroying the holographic projectors with that Shrykull power. Now you know.

I all makes perfect sense now!

"Hey, you see that?"

"Yeaaahhh, they're goin' down."

"Hey Molluck! What are you doin', huh?!"

"Wut..."

Your logic is WRONG, Max. Wrong...

Gabe, clearly the holograms were malfunctioning that day.

He programmed them to be like that as the perfect invitation for him to start explaining his diabolical plan. This makes them come across as even more impressed because of the cynicism they started off with. Of course their support is completely pre-programmed, but that's fine for Molluck. He's not picky about whether his ego-stroking is genuine or artificial. That's why none of them pointed out the obvious flaw in killing the factory's workers, and this whole insular, big-headed setup of Molluck's is why he's been stuck in the middle of no where instead of being given any real power.

I mean duh.

Sarcasm?
Count me in!

"I am not a vegetarian because I love animals; I am a vegetarian because I hate plants."

It's a shame no-one thought to put two slog-huts on either side of the screen and release them at the same time... it would have saved a lot of money and sligpower. Or maybe to create a 1-width vertical vent and install a meat grinder in it. "Mmmm... sliced Abe".

wow it does makes perfect sense. how did you gather this info max?

Come on think about it. there was no way for the glukkons to leave. Also, I'm just saying it makes sense. And another thing, there's not much else to talk about here any way. every thing else has been talked about many,many times.

I don't think your crazy.

Logically, it's possible, sure. But I don't believe that was the impression we were ment to get. If you look at each platform, you can see that they retract into the wall, this hints to me that they are designed to fold out into the position they are in.

Also, end of the game, two Sligs caputre Abe on center platform, how did they get out? That door does work, the board room is just ment to look odd so you feel like you don't understand how their tech works, makes the whole factory feel close to home, yet alien at the same time.

Yes I've noticed there has been a shortage of topics... the off topic discussion has left me shocked to be frank with the type of content it contains. I'm surprised there seems to be no political discussion, or enviromental discussion, wasn't oddworld about industry, greed and destruction of the planet?

Thats happening today, why isn't anyone talking about it?

Sloghuts? I don't think that's a good design, considering Slogs eat Glukkons.

And of course the holographic projectors retract! Otherwise the lenses would get dusty.

Hahaha thats a good one.

I always figured the floor pannels/ramps came out of the center platform and connect to the door, while the other smaller platforms retract up into another room.

Maybe in the future we might see a board room in more detail =]

Or perhaps Molluck doesn't know that they're not real investors. Rupturefarms was doing so badly that the investors gave it up as a lost cause and stopped visiting. Toast used petty cash to purchase the holographic equipment and forced some of the more talented muds to program the animatics. That is why they were so vocally disapproving and yet ultimately celebratory; Molluck would have been suspicious if the meeting had panned out in any other way.

What evidence?
The FMV shows us that:
- RuptureFarms was losing profits.
- Glukkon partners/investors were concerned.
- Molluck already had a backup plan.

ZERO evidence to suggest that any of the Glukkons stopped visiting, the boardroom was full.

What evidence?
Is a Glukkon known to donate or provide moolah for projects that have zero returns? No, it's not their character. We have never been given such an impression.

What evidence do we have to confirm that holographic equipment was:
- Purchased
- Use of Muds to program animatics
- Use of said holographic equipment

There is no evidence.

Evidence of said flaw?
Do you assume RF would kill 99 muds, send 99 pops to the retailers, and expect to make enough of a profit to stop the company going under?

If that was the case, why did the chart say that the supply of Muds was through the roof? 99 products is nothing, wouldnt last a day in stock, not for the largest meat processing plant on a planet 10x the size of our own.

There is only one flaw I see in the plan.
RF would have to pay for it's stock.

This means they would need to make enough profit per Mud Pop sold to cover the cost of each Mud they paid for. If Molluck could pull that off, he has a never ending supply of stock.

Endless stock + Large consumer market = Enough Moolah to drown in.

Have you ever heard that the scrab-like rocks around te Scrabanian Temple were actually formed naturally that way and Scrabs eveolved to look like them for better camouflege?

Don't be ridiculous. That temple and the surrounding area was Mud-made.

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