difference between grrenish and red-brownish glukkons?
 

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So hi. i was always wondering. what is the difference between greenish glukkons like brewmaster and red-brown ones like dripik, lulu and the others?

Hmmm...I don't think there is a difference, but I've actually never really thought about the fact that their skin tone is indeed different.

What I think is, that Glukkons, much like humans vary in skin tone for the same reasons we do: the abundance or lack of sunlight in some regions. That may perhaps affect their skin tone in some way.

Of course, I can't be sure. Although Max and the other moderators will probably be able to elaborate.

don't be such a racist :p

no I don't think there is any difference ;)

what i was thinking is that they were simply done by two different odw inhabitants artists. i mean it would make sense. green glukkons have a slightly differently shaped head too.

Nope, there is not difference, buddy. But Welcome to the Forums!;)

There were some theories a while back that they may be different races or possibly even spawn of a different queen but that was never widely accepted.

Wasn't Phleg a sort of gray color? I'd just say different Glukkons
evolve different ways throughout their life. Just like no two humans
look alike (twins being an exception).

Wow, that never occured to me either, though that is very interesting. It's something that needs some thought. Hmm, I wonder.
I'd agree with some of the previous posts. Diffent queens, there like humans none look alike and different races. Thats pretty neat!

Phleg doesnt look like any other glukkons. he is actually my least favorite ones. his eyes are really close together and that makes him look stupid. he also seems fat... hard for a glukkon whit such small center body, but he just does look fat. i dunno just dont like him. it might sound stupid, but to me he seems to be portreyed to look similar to Winston Churchill, with his big sigar big body and rough appearence.

well that is because we have different genes from different parents. but glukkons only have Lady Margaret as a gene source + some males i suppose. so, to me this does not explain it.

See, I always thought they came from different regions and that was why they all looked a bit different. Although, at the same time, some of 'em do look remarkably similar, like the Junior Executives from AE. I honestly don't know why, and I doubt we'll ever find out for sure.

Well, Phleg does seem bigger and uglier than the rest, with an oversized
mouth made for whining like a baby. So it's not at all surprising that someone
would think he is a dimwit and not the brightest light of all the glukkons.

Look at brewmaster hes got that greenish look on his head and below his eyes

Well, yes, it remind me of lizards' scales, whilst Mullock, Dripik and Aslik have brownish skin. By the way they all look, would you even call it skin. It looks like it's diseased.

Well they are heavy smokers.

You know the heavy smoking could have something to do with brewmaster's head, it DOES look diseased. Or somthing with soulstorm brew.

Not to mention working and living in a pollution-spewing factory where I'm sure the chemicals really start to get to them and it effects their appearence. All of them look like they're diseased not just the brewmaster.

They definitely do. I wonder if Glukkons look any different before they start working at such facilities or smoking. Or maybe they're just born diseased-looking from the start :p

Yeah, that could be, too. Old age, as well, possibly. But it all still stands
by the "the ugliest bunch of carnivorous crustaceans alive" term.

Eh, I guess it could be old age as well, but then every Glukkon would have to be old :p

Going along with the chemicals in the factories idea, maybe thats why most muds are green skinned, and thats why sligs are greener in some spots than others. Also muds work all their life there greener than abe because abe left earlier so being away from the factory (like in Paramonia, Scrabania and other wildlife areas) He became blue.
that theory might be it.

But native mudokons are green to start with, so the chemicals would have to alter their colors differently, which has never happened to my knowledge. When it comes to Abe's being blue, I think his color is a symbol, showing us that he is different from all other mudokons (since he's the savior and all, plus he has the sole weilder of that nifty Shrykull ability :p). That's all that I can really think of, at any rate.

Well, don't forget mudokons skin colors change to fit their mood. But
I'd agree with Snuzi on Abe's skin being blue, seeing as I've read it
elsewhere.

Well, don't forget with Oddworld being 10 times the size of Earth, it's years
are considerably longer than Earth's as has been discussed before. So
in Oddworld years, they say Mullock is in his 40's-in Earth years, they
say he could be over a 100 years old.

But the length of the year has nothing to do with the aging process, just dates.

Yeah, they would age regardless of how long a year on Oddworld really is.

well the first simple reason i was thinking of for the Glukkons' difference in skin color is that it would be boring to see all os them in one color. there are so many important Glukkon personell which the player needs to destinguish from each other. therefore, this may seem to make sense.

but if we look at it OW wise, my only problem with the chemical solution (of snuzi, i think) is that it isnt only the skin color that differs between red and green Glukkons. its the shape of their heads and face. green ones like Brewmaster or Tex the Glockstar at the auction tend to have larger eyes and narrower heads. (by the way an interesting thing: did anyone notice that in the MO good ending movie Tex the Glockstar does not have ears?? :S i looked hard many times since than but he still havent grown any :p)

look at these two pics for comparison:

Nah, I brought up the chemical idea, but that's besides the point.

What I wonder is why Glukkons' eyes glow. Is it natural lights in their
eyes like on the fish of Earth who live in the darkest parts of the sea-
because glukkons live in dark areas, too, and it help them see-, or is it just a fad that all the glukkons can afford get because they can afford, or last is that just an effect Lorne added to clearly show the glukkon greed and
cruelness. (But then again, good creatures like the Almighty Raisin and the ratz also have glowing eyes.) It was probably because Lorne was out
of ideas on how their eyes should look.

Working from memory (and praying for TOS to be revived soon :p), in the article where Farzad explained how he designed the Ratz, he said that glowing helps draw attention to the eyes and helps to make the facial expression clear.

As for an in-universe theory, I have NFI.

I couldn't say whether that was the most lamest reason to make their eyes glow, but I suppose it helps them communicate better. Nothing against you, of course, Nate.

Has anyone noticed how Glukkons have patterns on their foreheads? They sometimes vary from one another, I've always wondered what that is?

I would suggest bioluminescence for the glowing, but the eyes are just about the worst place to have that in.

I would suspect it's just random wrinkles in their uneven head. I've
noticed it a few months ago.

i think it is not a good idea to find a reason for the glowing eyes of Glukkons because there are no creatures on earth of which we know of, that would have such eyes. Spirrow's fish are not the same i think. they dont glow the same way. besides, most night creatures stopped relying on their sight through evolution. they usually have other senses that are very developed. therefore, i dont think that the eyes of glukkons glow so that they can see better. im going for the stick-to-the-ground idea: Lorne and crew thought it looked cool and left the idea in the games.

as i now get femiliar with the forums, i see that so many of u get into such detailed explanation on why this and that is on oddworld. and i really think that is good. nice imagination. but dont forget that this is unfortunately a game after all and in order to make it effective some extreme things need to be included which are not necessarily logical. now, the OW series still holds the first place for me in detailed story parts that do not contradict, and this is the game which has the least unexplainable effects to it and still maintain popularity.

Edit: Just found a picture of Tex the gluk. Look closely: he HAS NO Ears. I think its a simple mistake, unless he is the Van Gogh of OW :p what do you guys think?

Actually, I think I can vaguely make out his ear. It's that dark blotch right
on top of the shoulderblade of his suit.

Yes, he does have ears. Every glukkon has ears. Glukkons just sometimes move their ears closer to their heads. In case ya haven't noticed, their ears are very flexible :p

Nope, sorry, thats not it. If u whatch the movie you see its only a shadow.

And yes, i know all Glukkons have big, flexible ears. That gives them this funny/stupid look that actually grabs me. Im shure Tex doesnt have ears, and i dont think its because of an OW thing. It is a possiple mistake made by the graphics designers in OWI. Im sure they realized, but thought the large sombrero will cover this mistake.

Trust, me, if u look at the movie at the end of MO closely whatching only Tex, you will see im right.

The best Glukkon to look at, that examplifies the way Glukkons pull their ears back is Dir. Phleg. Tex doesnt pull his ear back that way, im pretty sure. Until u whatch the movie again look at this pic:

you're right! Tex don't has ears:eek: I can't see it too

Did you perhaps take lighting into account? The shadows could possibly be making his ears difficult to see.

Also, if OWI did indeed forget to give him ears, and knew about it, they wouldn't just cover the mistake up. They'd fix it.

God... just look at those pics and the video.
Its impossible that its only me who sees it...

I have spotted this since he firs tim i saw this movie and whatched it like 50 times since than. I still cant see the ears. Im surprised too, about OWI not fixing them but i cannot find other logical explonations.

I seem to be alone with my opinion... But im so sure of it... god its annoying :p

Edit: Now look in the last pic i showed u: look at the Big Chese behind Tex. Look at the size of his ears and look at the size of any glukkon ears. Now look at tex from the side view... Its so true!!! Do you guys seriously think that is easily hidden by shadows? Look at Lulu, he has the hat but his ears are clear to see.

Edit 2: Ok. Look at this close-up with high exposure, do not consider the quality. Isnt it obvious?

yep! I still can't see it!

Okay, first of all, the quality of that image is awful. Second of all, I see the ear in that one. His ears must be much closer to his head, though, since they don't seem to stretch out that much.