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Statikk HDM 05-27-2005 04:27 PM

O-Ver-Rate-Ed (clap clap clapclapclap)
 
This is to balance out the favorite/least favorite threads. This is for discussing things that while not necessarily bad, are considered to be better than they really are. For instance, Chris Rock. I'm sorry, but this guy ain't funny. Obnoxious, yes. Overexposed? Aw hell yeah. Funny? Nope, not all that funny. And this is a guy who can't go through 3 solid minutes of standup without cursing a blue streak and yet he consistently bags roles in family oriented comedies and cartoons.
Secondly, I'm sick of hearing about "blogs". I'd have to put the odds of someone randomly reading a blog and it being worth their time at about 50/1. And the media, particularily the political parts of it, are vastly overestimating their relevancy and usually have no clue what one is. Finally, these have exsisted for years. What's next, a hard hitting expose about how much EZboard is revolutionizing the information world as we know it? Last but certainly not least is poker. Chrissakes, enough already! Its on the GSN, on local networks, the Travel Channel, and ESPN. Since when has poker had anything remotely related to travelling or sports anyhow? Oh, and the program is almost always Texas Hold 'Em and almost always at least a year old. If it isn't that its a bunch of race car drivers, shitty actors, and all around third tier celebrity ****wits playing like a chimp basehead.

sligster 05-27-2005 07:55 PM

Overrated?

Napoleon Dynamite.

Like I said. Overrated. It's good, but doesn't deserve the attention it has gotten.

Majic 05-27-2005 09:06 PM

Overrated?

Green Day's "American Idiot" by far.

Now, looking beyond the fact the album itself has very little political orientation, it's supposed to be a rock opera. Such a description is laughable. There are two suites, the second of which sucks, surrounded by the same standard pop ditties churned out by many a band these days. Granted, they contain much more musical variation seen by the standard pop album, but are hardly a revitalization of rock music. Furthermore, the lead single sucked at first, and became progressively more annoying. Just... bleh. "American Idiot" is better than the generic pop punk/rock album put out these days, but a far cry from all of the praise people bestow upon it.

Let's just say, it suffers from "Nevermind" disease.

I hate musical trends.

sligster 05-27-2005 09:08 PM

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Overrated?

Green Day's "American Idiot" by far.

Now, looking beyond the fact the album itself has very little political orientation, it's supposed to be a rock opera. Such a description is laughable. There are two suites, the second of which sucks, surrounded by the same standard pop ditties churned out by many a band these days. Granted, they contain much more musical variation seen by the standard pop album, but are hardly a revitalization of rock music. Furthermore, the lead single sucked at first, and became progressively more annoying. Just... bleh. "American Idiot" is better than the generic pop punk/rock album put out these days, but a far cry from all of the praise people bestow upon it.

Let's just say, it suffers from "Nevermind" disease.

..... I love you.....

seriously, Green Day's a good band and all... but my sister is in love with them. She's constantly blasting their music, and it's always the exact same damn song. The fact that my grandparents are always on her side doesn't help either....

I have now learned to hate Green Day with a fiery passion.

Nepharski 05-27-2005 10:48 PM

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For instance, Chris Rock. I'm sorry, but this guy ain't funny. Obnoxious, yes. Overexposed? Aw hell yeah. Funny? Nope, not all that funny.

He speaks the truth!

For me, Halo is definitely one of the most overrated games ever. Yes, I have played it, and I was...vaguely entertained by it, but it's no where near the perfection that everyone seems to describe it with. Sometimes I wish I could contract the Spanish Inquisition to drive out its almost religious following. Bah.

TimeSplitters: Future Perfect, on the other hand. Now there is a great FPS.

Leto 05-27-2005 10:51 PM

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Overrated?

Napoleon Dynamite.

Like I said. Overrated. It's good, but doesn't deserve the attention it has gotten.
I didn't think so. O.o I loved it. Then again, it had absoloutely no hpye and no advertising over here... And only three copies at Blockbuster! I mean, hey!

+Overrated = PETER JACKSON. He's a fat c**t in a suit. He did pratically no work. Argh. Yet, still, he is mentioned in all the magazines.

+Green Day suck. Listen to Boulevard(sp?) of Broken Dreams, then listen to the prechrous bit of Holiday. They are the same.

+KOTOR.

+Paris Hilton.

+Star Wars: EP III.
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EDIT: "TimeSplitters: Future Perfect, on the other hand. Now there is a great FPS."

**** yes! The best one, ever! The MapMaker makes it complete. Also, Mr Socky just rules. :D

SeaRex 05-28-2005 09:11 AM

American Idiot was a terrible album. It did, however, have "Jesus of Suburbia," which is a pretty well constructed song, both lyrically and musically... too bad the rest of the album didn't follow suit. I wish that the "Rock n Roll Girlfriend" segment of "Homecoming" was a separate song altogether... as the rest of "Homecoming" is really... bleh.

I completely agree about Napoleon Dynamite, too.

I find that most major games, such as the newer Final Fantasy games, Halo 2's online play, etc, are vastly overrated. Halo 2 online was rarely an enjoyable experience.

I've found the humor in Psychonauts to be a bit overrated. I mean, it has funny moments, but it also has plenty of dud jokes. I don't know. After hearing everyone and their grandmother rant about how funny it was, I just expected more...

Hobo 05-28-2005 10:49 AM

Lord Of The Rings - Films and books. SO BORING

Star Wars - "

Halo 2 - What a disappointment

Alcopops - Jesus christ, these are horrible

Statikk HDM 05-28-2005 11:09 AM

Thank you sooooo much for hating on LOTR. Every time I start an argument saying LOTR is the boringest shit nobody backs me up. NOBODY. How did this series win minor Academy Awards and even Oscars? I've tried reading the books too, Hobo but it is so dull.
American Idiot, even with its "political overtones" still seems like a trendy sellout, like the guys are just faking their way through it. There are a dozens of different metal and rap bands that put out anti-war/anti-Bush messages within the past year and are better(Exodus and Dead Prez spring immediately to mind) but don't get any respect.
Napolean Dynomite: A few good quotes but still far overrated. The only problem is nobody can eat tater tots without hearing it over and over again. Napolean Dynomite reminds me of another vapid little flick trend: Austin Powers. Those movies blew yet everybody thought they were the shit if they could do an "impression" of its characters.

Majic 05-28-2005 07:40 PM

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metal and rap bands

That reminds me, Linkin Park is another group that bugs the bajeebus out of me. I mean, sure, I hate on a lot of music. But these guys are undeniable standouts of why nu metal (mostly) all sucks.

Oh, and Lukey Luke. I agree with your American Idiot selections.

Dino 05-29-2005 05:46 PM

Chris Rock. (Absolutely Statikk, my friend keeps going on about him and it does my head in)
Wrestling.
Football.
Nu metal.
Punk (American).
MTv.
Jackass.
CKY.
Michael Jackson.
Halo. (both)
Counterstrike. (both)
Half Life. (both)
Star Wars.
Maddox.
Ebay.
Kerrang.
Iraq.
Terrorism.
The Labour Party.
Sex.
Risk of HIV/AIDs.
Peak Oil.
The world trade center. (They're not American heros, they're just a bunch of dudes who got to work on time. And the WTC is now a fetishised object... no longer is it the most ugly building in New York, it's now a symbol of American pride)
Little Britain.
Austin Powers.
LOTR.
I, Robot. (full of adverts)

Welcome to the mountain of stupid.

sligster 05-29-2005 06:44 PM

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Welcome to the mountain of stupid.

aka. America

Statikk HDM 05-30-2005 01:13 PM

Disagree with you on Maddox, Dino. Even though it doesn't update a lot it has consistantly delivered. Homestar Runner on the other hand isn't not nearly as funny as advertised.

Dino 05-30-2005 02:08 PM

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Disagree with you on Maddox, Dino. Even though it doesn't update a lot it has consistantly delivered. Homestar Runner on the other hand isn't not nearly as funny as advertised.

I'm not saying that Maddox isn't good - he's funny as hell, but to be honest he's damn overrated. Everyone raves on about him as if there isn't a single other person as original or entertaining as him. He's not the only comedian in the world.

And to be honest, his latest entries have sucked. Have you read his article on "Sideways"? I was expecting a funny bashing of the movie (which was crap) but instead I got a poorly written half baked bitch about how people who have decided to buy Pinot because of the film are lame. Dude.. the FILM was lame. Bitch about that instead. You'll probably do a better job. I can't believe Maddox DIDN'T bitch about it in fact... because you sit there for an hour or so watching two blokes doing nothing in particular, after having wasted a rediculous amount of money just to get in and see it, plus whatever else you spent on drinks and snacks... what isn't there to bitch about?

Statikk HDM 05-30-2005 04:40 PM

Yeah, that was pretty lousy. But the new one about "Trippin'" was pretty funny.

Kimon 05-30-2005 05:01 PM

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aka. America

Fuck off. :|

As for the whole 911 thing, it was a tragedy. Nobody said the victims were heroes, just the people who helped out. Take THAT, Dino's previous statement!

As for over-ratedness, Halo, definetly. Sports. Other stuff thats considered cool, but has no reason to be.

TheRaisin 05-30-2005 05:33 PM

Overrated stuff. Lemme see... any Disney movie ever made. Ever. I swear to god...

Beaches. Milk chocolate. Adam Sandler. Pepsi. Counter-Strike. THE DAVE MATTHEWS BAND, ARGH! And the three latest Star Wars movies. Good lord... what happened to Lucas? WHAT HAPPENED?!

These are just off the top of my head.

AquaticAmbi 05-30-2005 08:20 PM

Milk chocolate isn't overrated... it's over-delicious. Or something.

As for overratedness, I'd say teeth whitening products. And unreasonably large breasts. (As I'm the only female posting so far in this thread, I'm probably alone on that one.)

SeaRex 05-31-2005 12:18 PM

Plastic surgery in general, breast augmentation included.

For reals.

Dino 05-31-2005 02:42 PM

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Nobody said the victims were heroes.

Yes they did.

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Yeah, that was pretty lousy. But the new one about "Trippin'" was pretty funny.

Yeah the "Trippin'" one made me laugh. Especially the bit about enunciation, so true! I really hate MTv.

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Plastic surgery in general, breast augmentation included.

For reals.

Plastic surgery isn't overrated. It's the "look" that people wish to achieve through plastic surgery that's overrated. Plastic surgery itself is pretty incredible. There is little doubt in my mind that the only problem with it is the people who get it done.

TheRaisin 05-31-2005 03:28 PM

I totally agree with Ambi. On the subject of breasts, at least. Huge and/or plastic is just not appealing.

While we're on the subject of physical appearances, I also think the whole "tan and insanely voluptuous and muscular women" craze is, well... crazy. Not that looks are too terribly important, but meh. These physical qualities are highly overrated.

Kimon 05-31-2005 04:05 PM

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Yes they did.

:confused:

Who? I've never heard anyone say that. Maybe like Time magazine or something, but they don't count.

Majic 06-01-2005 02:30 PM

Large breasts (and rumps) are many times unattractive, depending on the body type, clothing, etc... A man doesn't want a bullet, but doesn't want to sit around and gawk. Not the good kind of gawk, either. The mentally retarded person esque gawk.

sligster 06-01-2005 02:37 PM

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Large breasts (and rumps) are many times unattractive, depending on the body type, clothing, etc... A man doesn't want a bullet, but doesn't want to sit around and gawk. Not the good kind of gawk, either. The mentally retarded person esque gawk.

This pretty much sums up the topic over-sized breasts

Leeum 06-03-2005 01:11 PM

Pretty much all of the above apart from Counter-Strike :p
Metallica = overrated...need i say more?

Alpha 06-03-2005 01:58 PM

Breaking Benjamin they are probably the strangest band I ever seen they don't really have a certan style they do a bit of pop,rock(mostly),and sad musical thing and nobody but me actually listen's to the (BrILLant!) lyrics.

AquaticAmbi 06-03-2005 07:42 PM

Alpha, I believe you are trying to describe the band as underrated, but the subject is overrated stuffs. Or perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. Afterall, I would certainly say they're overrated.

Leto 06-03-2005 09:12 PM

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Breaking Benjamin they are probably the strangest band I ever seen they don't really have a certan style they do a bit of pop,rock(mostly),and sad musical thing and nobody but me actually listen's to the (BrILLant!) lyrics.
Dude, get your facts right. Breaking Benjamin suck donkey balls. THey are not strange, they are wannabe strange. They are alternative metal. And every Goth in the universe listens to music much more depressing than this. Yep, overrated.

EDIT: Sorry, had to get it off my chest. Can't stand wannabes.

Ahem. Now to business...

RAP MUSIC. Some can be slightly bearable, but mostly it is repetetive shite. I mean, let's let this guy talk over a drum beat and occasionaly a bassline. Then, when true origionality arises, there is a DIFFERENT SAMPLE PLAYED IN THE BACKGROUND. :o omg yus.

Nate 06-04-2005 05:04 AM

That stupid band whose name I've repressed... Simple Plan. God I hate them so much. Every single song is just one long whinge.

I'll have to agree with you on the rap music count, at least with american rap. Virtually all of it is so monotonous. They all sound the same.

My only exception is with The Hilltop Hoods, who are a fantastic australian rap band; the only rap album I own.

Hobo 06-04-2005 11:28 AM

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That stupid band whose name I've repressed... Simple Plan. God I hate them so much. Every single song is just one long whinge.

I'll have to agree with you on the rap music count, at least with american rap. Virtually all of it is so monotonous. They all sound the same.

I love you <3

Dino 06-04-2005 12:38 PM

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That stupid band whose name I've repressed... Simple Plan. God I hate them so much. Every single song is just one long whinge.

Simple Plan... Simple Plan for what? Simple Plan to make lots of money off crap songs? Sounds about right.

My Chemical Romance. Holy fuck I hate those gay tossers.

Marylin Manson. My god is he overpublicised or what? I don't understand why either, he isn't particularly good or particularly controversial anymore.

Muse. They're a bit boring/samey/repetative to be honest, their fans are always totally bonkers about them, and they get overhype rave reviews about their dull live performances. Don't get me wrong I don't mind them, but they don't deserve all the attention that they're getting - I can think of plenty of unsigned bands that are way better and get like no coverage at all.

TheRaisin 06-04-2005 12:45 PM

Ohh Muse. Muse, Muse, Muse. They lured me in with Hysteria, which has been playing practically nonstop on VH1, and is an undeniably excellent song. Then I went off and shelled out twenty bucks or so for the album, and found it to be a piece of steaming crap. They have the potential to be great-- their instrumental skill is prodigious-- but that damn lead singer just dominates every single one of their songs (Hysteria excluded) with his whiney, high-pitched crooning. Thank you, Dino, for bringing this up.

drakan90 06-04-2005 12:55 PM

Halo.

Revolutionary?
Phht. My ass is it.
Gun game, vast expanses of running...**** a doodle doo...
Halo 2 dosnt even have a proper ending.

I prefer more 'realisitc' war games. Like KillZone (although that was hyped up to be way better than it actually was)

Edit: Hey, I didnt know the Forum blocked out swear words! Boo!

TheRaisin 06-04-2005 02:20 PM

Halo 2 has a cliffhanger ending. Meaning there will be a sequel. But thank you for bringing up an interesting point...

"Realistic" first-person shooters: overrated as hell. I'll take a completely far-fetched sci-fi shoot-'em-up over those games any day.

Nate 06-04-2005 06:35 PM

So playing as an android fighting aliens on a massive artificial ring orbiting a star counts as realistic these days?

EDIT: probably should point out that was sarcasm with a :D

Dino 06-04-2005 08:08 PM

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So playing as an android fighting aliens on a massive artificial ring orbiting a star counts as realistic these days?

EDIT: probably should point out that was sarcasm with a :D

No no no, I think you misunderstand. Nobody said Halo was realistic. (and btw Masterchief isn't an android, he's a cyborg) I think they were saying that realistic war games aren't as good as games like halo, but they're usually better than halo in particular, because halo, of course, blows.

However I can't agree with drakan90 on the point about there being too much walking, since in areas where large amounts of travelling are required, you're supplied a vehicle. The problem with Halo is that the only thing you do throughout the entire game is drive vehicles, fly banshees, shoot guns, hit people, and activate buttons. There's not a whole lot to it, and that's why the game feels so shallow. Probably 85% of the game is simply shooting people.

MojoMan220 06-04-2005 08:32 PM

Why does everybody feel they need to criticise and complain about everything that other, more talented people then themselves have accomplished? I mean I agree, that if something is naturally sucky, like say AIDs or Britney Spears, it should totally be taunted and destroyed, but who cares if something or someone is getting a little attention. Everything that has been mentioned is "overrated" for a reason: a bunch of folks really dig 'em.

That being said, I believe Dino and TheRasin should burn in Hell for calling Muse overrated. Bastards...

TheRaisin 06-04-2005 09:00 PM

Hey. You tell your Muse lead singer guy to stop making the rest of the band his bitch, and I'll be happy. :D

MojoMan220 06-04-2005 09:10 PM

You've got your music and I've got mine.

Dino 06-04-2005 11:38 PM

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You've got your music and I've got mine.

Muse are overrated, and their sound sucks. You're tone deaf.

"Why does everybody feel they need to criticise and complain about everything that other, more talented people then themselves have accomplished?"

Because it they aren't talented and they haven't accomplished anything.

"Everything that has been mentioned is "overrated" for a reason: a bunch of folks really dig 'em. "

Are you actually aware of the meaning of the word "overerated"? These things are overrated in our opinion because they get more attention that they deserve. In other words, they're not nearly as fantastic as you inexperienced teenage fans/consumer whores and uncultured journalists who only ever expose themselves to mainstream media would have us believe. It's got nothing to do with whether anyone likes anything, and everything to do with the fact that 99% of western society are easily impressed, tasteless morons who are never exposed to anything any better than the crap they're constantly listening to.