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STM 03-07-2012 08:10 AM

KONY 2012
 


Bring this mother fucker down. March 20th, I'm going to try and put up some posters in London to raise awareness to the cause. After watching this, might any of you try and make a difference?

Dynamithix 03-07-2012 08:11 AM

Oh jeez, not this again. Isn't it enough that everyone is spamming this shit across every Youtube video?

Wings of Fire 03-07-2012 08:13 AM

Side readings.

Thanks to Hobo and Wil for those.

Mac Sirloin 03-07-2012 08:16 AM

Oh no, not this goddamn bandwagon. STM you would fall for this.

Wil 03-07-2012 08:25 AM

Read the two links WoF links to. They're not side reading. They're vital reading (although, yes, the first is six years old).

And here's another.

JennyGenesis 03-07-2012 08:31 AM

It's a good cause though don't you think?

Wings of Fire 03-07-2012 08:36 AM

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It's a good cause though don't you think?

Finish the following proverb: 'The road to hell... '

Wil 03-07-2012 08:44 AM

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It's a good cause though don't you think?

No. Good intention, I'm sure, but not a good cause. Unless you want to support an army that rapes and loots. Unless you want to rob Uganda of its agency. And if you're happy doing that, I reserve the right to judge you. A lot.

I'll say this: If you're moved by IC's videos and feel compelled to share them, then I'm not questioning your motives or your intentions or your heart. I'm happy for you that you feel that way instead of not giving a shit. But you need to do your research before you launch into a campaign the context and implications of which you don't even begin to understand.

MeechMunchie 03-07-2012 08:46 AM

If you set YouTube comments to automatically update you can actually watch the negative comments being flooded off the screen.

Jordan 03-07-2012 08:49 AM

I heard about this at school today. Scary shit.

JennyGenesis 03-07-2012 09:12 AM

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No. Good intention, I'm sure, but not a good cause. Unless you want to support an army that rapes and loots. Unless you want to rob Uganda of its agency. And if you're happy doing that, I reserve the right to judge you. A lot.

I'll say this: If you're moved by IC's videos and feel compelled to share them, then I'm not questioning your motives or your intentions or your heart. I'm happy for you that you feel that way instead of not giving a shit. But you need to do your research before you launch into a campaign the context and implications of which you don't even begin to understand.

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Finish the following proverb: 'The road to hell... '

You completely read it wrong, I meant that the campaign against him is a good cause.

Wings of Fire 03-07-2012 09:24 AM

That's too simple. The issue is only good guy/bad guy because of your perspective. Not to say he's not an evil man, but hollering to give money to the army of a country where he's not even active to take him down, when peace talks are progressing isn't very intelligent.

STM 03-07-2012 09:56 AM

Fundamentally it's a just cause and media attention is what might push a modicum of safety for Ugandan citizens. I do understand that Invisible Children is not a fantastic charity, equally as interested in monetary greed as it is helping the African communities, but I'm not doing it for them, I'm doing it for the Ugandans. And I have done some further reading, before I posted this topic in fact, I stand by my decision to try and help in whatever form instead of sitting on my arse and condemning people doing work to stop a militia from mutilating the faces of ten year olds.

Wings of Fire 03-07-2012 10:26 AM

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I stand by my decision to try and help in whatever form instead of sitting on my arse and condemning people doing work to stop a militia from mutilating the faces of ten year olds.

Keep them passive aggressive tendencies in check, sir. They don't win you arguments and they won't make you friends.

STM 03-07-2012 10:54 AM

I was merely backing up my statement with how I feel, if you find that passively aggressive than that's unfortunate. But it's not intentional.

JennyGenesis 03-07-2012 10:55 AM

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they won't make you friends.

So he's trying to use this campaign as a place to make new friends?

Yeah sure...

Wings of Fire 03-07-2012 11:01 AM

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So he's trying to use this campaign as a place to make new friends?

Yeah sure...

You take my comment too literally. What I was trying to get across, is that STM is ad homimening the blazes out of people raising legitimate concerns with IC's methods, facts and justification.

STM 03-07-2012 11:05 AM

If you feel like that I do apologise, I wasn't meaning to come across as overtly rude or dickish. I do think it's nice that the West is raising awareness of just causes though, however blurred by the representative charities. If we foster empathy when it appears so strongly, as it has done these last few days, perhaps there's some hope for third world countries.

shaman 03-07-2012 12:38 PM

My totally apolitical friend who is absent of virtually any form of opinion on anything, sent me a link to this campaign on facebook. Not to say it's a bad cause, but fads crisp my bacon.

Also, what WoF said, peace talks are continuing, let's not petrol up that fire.

Mac Sirloin 03-07-2012 12:38 PM

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If you feel like that I do apologise, I wasn't meaning to come across as overtly rude or dickish. I do think it's nice that the West is raising awareness of just causes though, however blurred by the representative charities. If we foster empathy when it appears so strongly, as it has done these last few days, perhaps there's some hope for third world countries.

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So he's trying to use this campaign as a place to make new friends?

Yeah sure...

Shut up you stinky little gremlins. Stop arguing back and read the links WoF posted, or you have absolutely no place in this thread, OP or not.

KONY 2012 is basically one big line of white people patting each other's butts for something that hasn't gotten done yet. Does anyone have that image of the fuckturds from Invisible Children handing off weapons with their skinny little arms to a bunch of African Guerilla fighters?

shaman 03-07-2012 12:42 PM

Mac for you


http://whitthef.wordpress.com/tag/invisible-children/

The picture is in the article.

STM 03-07-2012 12:43 PM

I'm not stinky D=

And I do understand his point, so perhaps you're not reading my posts properly, because, as I said, it's this public display of empathy which really moved me, not so much the organisation that started it.

EDIT: Urgh, that picture is horrible, but that guy in the middle, I want to punch his fucking face.

JennyGenesis 03-07-2012 12:50 PM

There's something about those 3 that I don't seem to like, can't exactly say what it is though, something seems wrong.

Also, the guy in the black t-shirt reminds me of Wil.

OANST 03-07-2012 12:51 PM

I want to punch the middle one in the face. In fact, that's my new goal in life.

Wings of Fire 03-07-2012 12:53 PM

Is it empathy or cheap sympathy? Are people really empathizing with the issue, or are they just passing the video on to friends to absolve themselves of the guilt they feel after having watched it?

shaman 03-07-2012 12:54 PM

Scott Pilgrim meets Blood Diamond.

Dynamithix 03-07-2012 01:02 PM

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Scott Pilgrim meets Blood Diamond.

oh shit

lol

OddjobAbe 03-07-2012 01:32 PM

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There's something about those 3 that I don't seem to like, can't exactly say what it is though, something seems wrong.

There is a possibility that it may have something to do with the fact that they are three weedy Westerners with everything they could ever wish for standing there lookin' cool with some guns. Some fucking message.

STM 03-07-2012 01:32 PM

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Is it empathy or cheap sympathy? Are people really empathizing with the issue, or are they just passing the video on to friends to absolve themselves of the guilt they feel after having watched it?

Could be...maybe both?

Wings of Fire 03-07-2012 01:47 PM

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Could be...maybe both?

True empathy is understanding. Understanding you don't simply pass on to the next tweeter. Understanding means commitment.

So no, probably not both. Not to the vast majority of people sharing that link and posting it everywhere. Maybe to you, if you have the commitment and the respect to stick with the situation, continue gathering information, find any way you can to support efforts, keep the emotional attachment you feel now and see it through. That's most certainly not the majority of people though.

I don't pretend to empathize with the situation.