They're just breasts!
I found this to fun of a discussion topic to ignore. So have at it. I say do it, but only allow 'nice' breasts... yes... :fuzgrin:
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Welllll....I suppsoe the feminists have a good point, but I really wouldn't be comfortable with the idea:fuzsad:. Its just embedded into my head that "Liek zomg, boobs are teh secks and must be filtered for teh children11!!". I suppose its some crazy cultural thing.
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Are they hot? If not they can go do it over there just don't bring it here.
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bullshit
more bloody do gooders trying to "be feminist" i mean i can't take this shit seriously when i heard about some women try and take the "man" and "men" out of women and woman |
Bras are pretty practical, especially when trying to swim.
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The reason breasts are 'sexualised in this way' is because they are a sexual characteristic. Most men find them sexually attractive. That's a fact. So that's why they're 'sexualised' in this way.
I couldn't say how women feel about mens bare chests, but I'm not one, but to my knowledge, I don't think it has quite the same effect in that regard. Our culture also tends to have developed in this way for a reason. |
Breasts are, and always have been since if you read historic writings ands stuff, an object of sexuality. It's one of the 'round forms' that make women so attractive in a man's eye. This is not a culture thing, it's an instinctive thing. Even many wild tribes that exist today, with exception of a few, have their women cover up their chest in normal every day life. These people are not subjected to media or religions or whatever.
Breasts are sexual. And if they think they are not then they should take off all their clothes when they go swimming because then their vagina is just as not sexual as their tits. |
Nooo! Not just Breasts! Gods! GODS I TELL YOU! THEY TELL ME WHAT TO DO! AND IF I DON'T STARE AT THEM, THEY GET MAD! AND THEY'LL PUNISH ME!
*Goes off worshipping an Idol of Breasts* |
Thread is useless without Pics.
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Feminists and their breasts. Pfft. If they can take fucking ages choosing and buying underwear for their breasts, they can bloody well wear them.
There was a similar thing happening in New Zealand, well I think it happens every year, something about Boobs On Bikes, where they parade around streets topless. Their excuse is 'FEMINISM U CHAUVENISTIC PEEEEGS', but you know what the parade was advertising? The national Sexpo. [/rant] |
Tit for tat
"There are three reasons for this. First, there is a security aspect, then there is a hygiene issue and finally there is what we call 'prevailing manners and customs'. It is above all this last point which is important here,".........
Security?? At least they can`t hide anything in their bikini tops. Hygiene?? Since when do bikini tops prevent disease ? Let them swim, they most likely do the breast stroke very well. "We want our breasts to be as 'normal' and desexualized as men's, so that we too can pull off our shirts at football matches," three words: GO FOR IT!! |
I believe in god again.
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When it comes to the sexualisation of breasts, I have a hypothesis.
As secondary sexual characteristics they do represent physical and sexual femininity. In terms of purely physical attraction, it is those features that distinguish you from the opposite sex that those inclined that way will find sexually attractive (plus cultural preferences). Think about it in respect to other sexual characteristics- it is almost universally true. Also, as secondary sexual characteristics, they indicate that a female is sexually mature. In evolutionary terms, it is pointless to copulate with an underdeveloped individual. So that explains the sexualisation of both the female and male breast (girls and Nate, do you not find the torsos of attractive men to be, well, attractive? This is more tentative than my other observations, because I have not been able to examine this effect from the other perspective. However, I submit to you that the cultural difference can be explained by the historical differences in the gender roles of society. Men have traditionally been the breadwinners, long have men performed manual labour. Remaining fully clothed is not always practical, especially in the summer, for physically active men. Here I postulate is a major cause of the cultural disparities in attitudes to male and female breasts. Can the woman's breast be culturally desexualised too? I think so. Many aboriginal cultures do not bother with modesty for breasts, and occasionally the whole body. This may simply be a generalised attitude due to the climate. Still, even if western society could accept these changes, I still think bras would stay on more often than not. They are practical, providing support. Example: if women regularly performed manual labour the same way men did and do, supporting their breasts would keep them out of harm's way, making work both safer and more convenient. Men do the same when applicable in supporting (and sometimes shielding) their genitalia. |
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As for topless bathing women, the part of me that yearns for a society that is neither preoccupied with sex nor sheltered from it would love this to be a step closer to that ideal. More realistically, I don’t want to see it because I don’t want to see them (breasts, that is, not women altogether). |
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Nate came to mind over broader terms or other gay members for some reason... I guess because I've asked Nate specifically for clarification on points in OTD outside of my experience in the past (I can think of a specific example in a similar format as this) and he's always provided good answers. Also, I did not like the alliteration of "girls and gays". I'm not sure why. I hope you're not offended, Nate, Max and others, if so I apologise. |
Awww, I wasn’t having a go. Well, I guess I was, but I didn’t mean to come across as taking particular exception. Your choice of subjects just caught my attention.
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I would find breasts sexual even if I was told they're weren't. Breasts have been considered sexual for thousands of years, it's a natural thing.
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I'm all for feminism.
Honestly, I'm a lesbian trapped in a fat man's body. D': |
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I think there's a difference between this "sexualisation" and general attractiveness. In our culture breasts are viewed as sexual organs, which could be done to most of our external features if you have the imagination... or the fetish. Anyway, if breasts wee culturally desexualised, I think this means that they would no longer stimulate sexual arousal in so much of the population by themselves, though they would still be a means by which women's physical attractiveness is "judged", just like the rest of a person's body. I mean, people find legs attractive, but we don't have to keep those covered. Not in modern western culture anyway. |
I should make a thread called 'It's just a penis!'.
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Well what I have isn't 'just' a penis...
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You're right, it's not just a penis, it's a oversized clitoris :P.
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Well...I wouldnt be doing that, I can tell ya. I'm too shy...Though I dont really know who would want to but if they want to, they should be able to...but I still woundnt. So in short, if they want to, do it...Men would love it, thats for sure :D as long as the woman in question is 'attractive' plah
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Well to be quite honest I think the attraction to breasts is the fact that you can't always see them. If they would be out and about with every girl around I think it would actually take the fun out of them extremely quickly.
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I agree but only because they would become very saggy from not having proper support.
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Well they have a point, but howabout the men wearing two peace bakinnis, therefore, we're both equal.
Jokes :P Well, I agree with Havoc, we'd probably get bored of it, but it would be fun at first, as long as the people who do it are good looking, and have decent breasts, lol. Ok, maybe that's an even more sexist approach. |
Maybe? Maybe? Let me clear this up? It is.
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