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OANST 08-02-2010 07:54 AM

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Hey all...

For those wondering, and those not I'm Stewart Gilray from JAW, and have been lurking here for AGES!

Anyway, we had fully intended to announce 2 projects in the past week, however due to other considerations we're just wanting you guys to wait a lil-bit-longer.

When that'll be I can't say yet, as I REALLY don't know. But we want to make you guys happy, and we think we will :)

Soon.

Other considerations? What does that mean? No. Really. What does it mean?

crimsonxking 08-02-2010 08:04 AM

Honestly, yeah, I agree with some of what OANST is saying. It's been too many years we've spent waiting to be played with by cryptic statements. I don't mind that it is taking longer than expected to get out the website, I'm sure you guys are doing all you can.

But give us something. Just some basic information or something solid to latch onto.

Daxter King 08-02-2010 08:08 AM

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There have been far longer delays in gaming before. Think about all those poor Dead Rising fans.

What the fuck are you on about? Dead Rising released in 2007, the sequel is coming out in a few months. That is 3 years, when the hell did Stranger's Wrath come out again? Oh yeah, 2005. Its 2010, its been 5 years. Not to mention we're waiting for a press release, not even a game at this point. I think Duke Nukem Forever would be a more akin situation to Oddworld right now.

Also, I hate people who makes puns or jokes on the word odd in this forum, seeing the word mobb infuriated me.

OANST 08-02-2010 08:10 AM

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Also, I hate people who makes puns or jokes on the word odd in this forum, seeing the word mobb infuriated me.

Did you notice that I threw up?

Josh 08-02-2010 08:11 AM

Godd, you need to get a sense of humor.

Daxter King 08-02-2010 08:14 AM

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Did you notice that I threw up?

Indeed I did.

The Brewmaster 08-02-2010 08:14 AM

For those asking about the Oddworld website, we now have someone on it to get it finished asap.
From Abe Mudokon on Twitter

Hopefully it will be released soon ...in July indeed

Hazz-JB 08-02-2010 08:52 AM

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Other considerations? What does that mean? No. Really. What does it mean?

This is the real problem. We can wait for announcements and websites, but isn't it possible to give us some kind of info on why it's taking so long, and a rough time frame? "Soon" can mean anything.

Holy Sock 08-02-2010 08:54 AM

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What the fuck are you on about? Dead Rising released in 2007, the sequel is coming out in a few months. That is 3 years, when the hell did Stranger's Wrath come out again? Oh yeah, 2005. Its 2010, its been 5 years. Not to mention we're waiting for a press release, not even a game at this point. I think Duke Nukem Forever would be a more akin situation to Oddworld right now.

I was talking about the damn delay, not the waiting period between two consecutive games.

Dead Rising 2 was delayed from early 2010 all the way to August, and then again until late September, whilst it's only been 2 days of delay thus far for the new website.

There seems to be a general whine amongst a couple of you folks. Whiney little children.

Daxter King 08-02-2010 08:59 AM

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I was talking about the damn delay, not the waiting period between two consecutive games.

Dead Rising 2 was delayed from early 2010 all the way to August, and then again until late September, whilst it's only been 2 days of delay thus far for the new website.

My point still stands that the delay isn't even comparable to Oddworld right now.

STM 08-02-2010 09:07 AM

If the Native says it's coming soon and that they are doing stuff, I can wait but I agree we've been waiting since before I even got the internet. We'll be ok guys, pull through and clear up OANST's sick!

Holy Sock 08-02-2010 09:08 AM

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My point still stands that the delay isn't even comparable to Oddworld right now.

Your point does not still stand. The delay for the website is miniscule compared to the delay of Dead Rising 2.

I wasn't talking about the horrible 5 year wait all you poor Oddworld fans have had to endure.

Or even the horrendous 9 year wait for those of us who never owned an Xbox or played MO or SW.

It's only been 2 days and AbeMudokon says the website will be out very very soon. Everyone just needs to calm down and smoke a jay.

Daxter King 08-02-2010 09:09 AM

It doesn't matter that you're not talking about, its still relevant to the situation currently.

STM 08-02-2010 09:11 AM

Shut up and stay on topic please.

Is gilray really working @ Jaw btw? If so he knows AbeMudokon yes?

Holy Sock 08-02-2010 09:13 AM

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It doesn't matter that you're not talking about, its still relevant to the situation currently.

It does matter that I wasn't talking about it because my point was the reason we started this argument...............stop being silly.

And yes, I believe Gilray does work at JAW.

Daxter King 08-02-2010 09:21 AM

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It does matter that I wasn't talking about it because my point was the reason we started this argument...............stop being silly.

And yes, I believe Gilray does work at JAW.

I see I misunderstood your first statement, my mistake for taking this far.

jmchandler 08-02-2010 09:22 AM

Thanks Gilrod. I appreciate the update. I am as excited as everyone else, and I'm waiting on pins and needles. But, as long as we have been waiting, a little longer shouldn't matter much. I am confident that you and your team are very conscious of the fact that all of us fans are very restless and impatient, and that ya'll are working as fast as possible.

Wil 08-02-2010 09:39 AM

Yes, Stewart Gilray is managing director of JAW. We'd have given him a title if only we could think what.

STM 08-02-2010 10:12 AM

Life Giver perhaps?

Wil 08-02-2010 10:17 AM

Compared to "Oddworld Inhabitant", it's a little cryptic.

STM 08-02-2010 10:25 AM

Yeh but we'll all get it won't we? Won't we?

Holy Sock 08-02-2010 10:29 AM

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I see I misunderstood your first statement, my mistake for taking this far.

;) No problemo

erwinraaben55 08-02-2010 12:38 PM

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Compared to "Oddworld Inhabitant", it's a little cryptic.

Brewmaster (just add water)

GlukkonGluk 08-02-2010 12:45 PM

Still no news? I see...well, obviously one of us is going to have to write a strongly- worded letter to someone important, eh? :P

squeak117 08-02-2010 02:22 PM

My favourite part is when he said it'll be here soon.

Wil 08-02-2010 02:57 PM

My favourite part is when everybody got angry because they believed the word soon isn't a meaningless word.

Hazz-JB 08-02-2010 03:05 PM

My favourite part hasn't happened yet, but I'm told its coming soon! :fuzgrin:

Viper45 08-02-2010 03:18 PM

Hmm. So I see we've gone from "next week" to "indefinite" once again.

Indefinite... the story of an Oddworld fan's life.

Hazz-JB 08-02-2010 03:33 PM

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Hmm. So I see we've gone from "next week" to "indefinite" once again.

Indefinite... the story of an Oddworld fan's life.

I think that since they expected to be ready by the end of July, it's well within their capacity to release the site in the next week or two. As Gilrod said, they had other "considerations" when it came to announcing new projects; ie. they didn't get behind schedule, they chose not to announce anything yet, the same probably goes for the website.

It may be naive but I'm still really hopeful for something in the next week or so.

Viper45 08-02-2010 03:57 PM

Sure, but the fact that he doesn't know when they'll make the announcements doesn't inspire confidence. Usually when they don't know, it means it's going to be a while. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not holding my breath for an announcement in the coming weeks.

Havoc 08-02-2010 09:02 PM

Edit: Nevermind, missed a bunch of posts.

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It's only been 2 days and AbeMudokon says the website will be out very very soon. Everyone just needs to calm down and smoke a jay.
Actually the new Oddworld site has been 'coming soon' for the last 4 or 5 years. And regardless of what they are working on, off-lining your company's entire website for such a period of time is just utterly stupid. Not only from a fan's perspective but also certainly from a business perspective.

OWI has always had some flair of unneeded secrecy around itself. Almost as if they are afraid that the second they tell the world something someone else is going to grab their idea and run off with it. And while there may be a level of truth in the fact that the competition is always looking over your shoulder, I think OWI and Lorne in particular are waaaaaaay to paranoia when it comes to releasing information. That just doesn't hurt their fan base, it also hurts their business, because lets face it, if we (the fans) don't know it, then the business world doesn't know it. And the only thing we know for sure right now is that Lorne is always working on the next revolutionizing idea that will turn the gaming industry upside down. Well, my brother in law is always preaching the same thing. Just last year he asked me if I wanted to invest in a new type of fuel he invented that would turn the entire world upside down. Guess what? He's still a cab driver.

I'm not out to burn OWI or Lorne here, and I'm sure there have been some business deals and plenty of meetings where things been discussed we can only drool about right now, but my message is that too much secrecy can kill you as a company. Especially if you plan to keep this up until the release of Citizen Siege which is years into the future.

Hm, sometimes I wonder how Lorne's meeting with potential investors go.

Investor: 'So, what exactly should we be investing in?'

Lorne: 'Well I can't really tell you because it's a secret, but I guarantee you it will turn the gaming industry upside down!'

Investor: 'Great! Here, have our money!'

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Nate 08-02-2010 09:30 PM

Don't be so asinine, Havoc. Back when OWI had products to promote, they promoted the hell out of them. Their website was excellent and there were regularly interviews with Lorne and articles about the company.

For the past five years they've gone radio silent and with good reason; they haven't had anything to tell us about. Sure, they now do have something to promote but PR is a complicated beast and it's their choice to decide when is the best time to let us know about it.

Havoc 08-02-2010 09:42 PM

There are companies out there that keep the world up to date on what exactly they're doing long before PR comes into play, is all I'm saying. In fact, you could consider the production process part of the PR, that's what they did with MO. Just a shame that insanely backfired on them, so maybe they're hesitant to do it that way again.

Xavier 08-02-2010 10:15 PM

Yep, that's probably what happened Havoc. Anyway, still have new content on the site during those 5 years means OWI would had to hire someone to make all this out of thin air. I'm not sure I'd like the output of that.

And while I understand many of you are upset please try not to be rude to each other.

Phylum 08-03-2010 03:13 AM

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Yes, Stewart Gilray is managing director of JAW. We'd have given him a title if only we could think what.

Either "JAW staff-member" or "Stewart Gilray".

squeak117 08-03-2010 03:21 AM

Can we just call him 'Gilrod' from now on?

Nate 08-03-2010 04:03 AM

I think Max was referring to some sort of equivalent to 'Oddworld Inhabitant', which is the byline we give to known OWI staff members.

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There are companies out there that keep the world up to date on what exactly they're doing long before PR comes into play, is all I'm saying. In fact, you could consider the production process part of the PR, that's what they did with MO. Just a shame that insanely backfired on them, so maybe they're hesitant to do it that way again.

Only once the production hits a certain point. It's all to do with the PR balance; you really don't want to peak too early.

MeechCrunchies 08-03-2010 05:42 AM

>=(

this makes me grr face >=(

MeechMunchie 08-03-2010 08:41 AM

IMPOSTER!

Josh 08-03-2010 08:44 AM

I already made that joke, but a mod deleted it. :(