Try driving a car after that: maybe you can, but not everybody, someone could become a killer!

Being drunk != Being a drunk driver.

I may not be able to control my resistance to cigarettes after I've had a few, but I'd like to think that I would never be stupid enough to try and drive a car.

Has anyone ever heard of overdosing on cigarettes? Anyone ever start a massive fight because they had a few fags in them? Smoking is, socially, more acceptable albeit still as dangerous as drinking.

You ever see people get withdrawal symptoms from not having a bottle of beer in their mouth, if you can give me an example of that I can give you an example of angry smokers.

You absolutely have to be kidding me. I didn't think a person existed who was so stupid they didn't know of alcoholism.

Oh yeh...duh! I deserve a kick in the crotch for that.

Don't be stupid. Perhaps binge smoking is more socially acceptible than binge drinking, but having one or two drinks after work is much, much more accepted than having one or two cigarettes.


Having one drink a day is not shown to cause any significant health defects and may possibly provide benefits. Having even just one cigarette a day does damage. I don't see why anyone is trying to debate this point.

People who want to feel justified in casually smoking, of course.

Because justifying their habit will make them healthier? The placebo effect doesn't work with lung cancer AiN.

Before I begin this post, a little background to help you understand the situation.

In the UK you can smoke at 16 but you have to be 18 to buy cigarettes.

I have a friend who is 17 and is a full time smoker, he ran out on the day before yesterday ago but couldn't find anybody to buy him some. We were speaking on Xbox Live and he said that he was actually shaking because he needed one so badly. I said that I was going out later and that I would stop by his house and buy him some.

Stupid me....................I forgot............

Yesterday we met up, gave me his money and I bought him some cigarettes, he lit up and took a puff and said "Ahhhh that's better, it's been so long that I'm actually getting a head rush right now"

I don't need any justification. I don't give a shit. Casually drinking is very bad for liver... maybe YOU know need some justifications. Tell me it's not right then. Because you are casual drinkers and not casual smoker. I, as casual smoker, I don't care about what is going to happen to me. And you, as casual drinkers, you don't want to talk about effect of casually drinking.

Maybe you don't know how much ethanol does hurt to your body! I know how much nicotine hurts to me, the same of drinking. Maybe alcohol doesn't hurt your lungs, but you don't live only due to your lungs.

uh

YOU think that it isn't shown to cause any significant health defects and may possibly provide benefits.

US and pretty much all of mainstream science. Prove us wrong.

EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholic_liver_disease

Wikipedia isn't a reliable source per se, but that sentence is the most succinct explanation of my point I could find. However, every single article I found by googling 'Alcoholic Liver Disease' concurs.

Fortifying Nate's point with more reliable sources:

http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/content/w...wine-health/1/
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/20...-good-for-you/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/727912.stm

Now let's try to find an article saying a little smoke is good for you!

Will you find any nicotine lung disease informations about smoking from 3 to 5 cigarettes a day but not every day?

I apologize for having forgotten to tell you that I don't smoke every day. I'm sincere with you. I sometimes don't smoke a cigarettes for a week and then I smoke three cigarattes, then I don't for two days, then I smoke two cigarettes, then nothing, then five cigarettes (FOR EXAMPLE)


@Scrabtrapman: now let's try to be less ass-licker and boring.
AND I NEVER SAID SMOKE IS GOOD FOR ANYONE! I don't want to insult you, don't give me a chance.

People consume alcoholic beverages because primarily they enjoy the taste, but also because some because they like becoming intoxicated. In comparison smoking does neither; you only feel relaxed because you are experiencing withdrawal symptoms.

Also, don't call STM an ass-licker for supporting the obvious truth. If only same could be said when it came to faith.

What do you expect from me now? What do you want? He was annoying me.

The truth? We can't say what is the truth. You can't. I can't. I was explaing my point of view and you were putting shit all over me! Like you were some doctor or professor.

I'll do you one better:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...es-507818.html
http://esciencenews.com/articles/200...healthy.adults

OH SHIT YOU WERE RIGHT I WILL DIE SOON OH MY GOD!!!

And now??? Oh shit. I'm scared...

But...

I'm strong! xD

I love you OWF

Lung cancer is not something you should be joking about.

Sorry...

Lymphoma's funnier.

You know what AiN, fuck you. You think I'm arse licking? Let me tell you a little story about my Grandma. I loved her so much and used to go to her house every day, then she got lung disease from smoking, she died a very slow and painful death, she couldn't speak, we could barely see her and she was bed bound for months. It took years to get over that. So once again, fuck you.

I'm so very sorry for brandishing facts about what will eventually kill you if you keep on smoking. You're right, I'm a massive arse lick, yeah because I always jump on the band wagon.

Oh and I was annoying you? Boo fucking hoo, so sorry but the truth hurts.

Ok people, calm down. If you need to fight, take it to PMs...

I don't give a shit about your life or your stories. And you don't tell me fuck you from your PC, come here and tell me IN FRONT OF ME. It ends here for me. Bye.

EDIT: You're only good at neg repping, you make me laugh.

I'm not trying to fight but I got angry, angry at myself partially because I'm a hypocrite, I smoked two today for fuck sake. But at least I'm honest with myself, I know that it is killing me in some way or another.

But err, I can't say fuck you in front of your face, you live on the continent.

You'll understand you won't die for those two cigarettes. This is the problem dear Scrabtrapman (your name? I'm Fabio). It's only a common thought.