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Manco 04-06-2016 10:09 AM

Except she’s not bent over sticking her ass out any more. There’s nothing inherently sexual about that pose, the fact the character in the original is in her underwear is what makes it sexualized.

Varrok 04-06-2016 10:13 AM

The OP had a problem with the pose making Tracer feel like a woman stereotype, and they changed it into a pin-up girl pose.

Do you think that'll make her happy? :tard:

Slugology 04-06-2016 03:35 PM

the people who complain about dumb shit like Tracers butt don't play videogames anyway, so their opinions can be safely discarded

Nate 04-06-2016 09:34 PM

I feel like the new one still is sexual, but it's badass-sexual rather than come-hither-sexual. It's adequate.

Nepsotic 04-08-2016 06:27 AM

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Edit: It also stands to reason, the people complaining about this form of "censorship" are SJW's in themselves.

You must be very misinformed, Moot.

Moot 04-10-2016 09:54 AM

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You must be very misinformed, Moot.

I'd argue it's vice versa.

"Blizzard is changing something because they're being forced to by someone who's offended! They're being censored!!!!"

How hypocritical. Fighting for ones own sense of personal justice, using the buzzword of "censorship!!!11!" to vehemently defend a moot point. That sounds like Social Justice Warriors to me. Blizzards replacement pose even enforces my reason for irritation, they're not being censored and never were.

Sure, they're not neckbeards sitting on Tumblr saying "mlady" but they're their own breed of bad. I see very little difference between these kinds of SJW's, they simply have different outlets.

There are extremes to every side, even outside of SJW's. The Feminist debates, the racial equality debates, Occupy Wall street, Gamergate. Great examples of extreme movements that have often hindered themselves with their zealotry. Don't presume one side is just "right", it's always more complicated than that.

Tired Glutton 04-12-2016 06:03 AM

So is sjw just an insult or do any of you consider it an ideology of it's own or what. Is it the replacement word for communist as a perjorative

Nepsotic 04-12-2016 06:54 AM

It's basically a member of the regressive left.

STM 04-12-2016 07:17 AM

Which really tells you everything you need to know about what 'sjw' means...

Nepsotic 04-12-2016 08:04 AM

Fucking what do you think I am, the Urban Dictionary? Google it!

Manco 04-12-2016 08:32 AM

I like how Nep swapped one meaningless label dreamed up by conservatives for another meaningless label dreamed up by conservatives.

Nepsotic 04-12-2016 09:23 AM

All labels are meaningless and dreamed up but tha doesn't make them any less true.

Manco 04-12-2016 09:47 AM

“it’s meaningless but it’s true”

Vlam 04-12-2016 09:52 AM

Manco is far left.

STM 04-12-2016 09:52 AM

I was kinda making a point about regressive-left being a non-existent thing but hey ho.

Vlam 04-12-2016 09:53 AM

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I was kinda making a point about regressive-left being a non-existent thing but hey ho.

Because the left is already regressive?

Nepsotic 04-12-2016 10:23 AM

The regressive left is totally an existent thing. It's what you call people who call themselves 'the progressive left' because 99% of the time they are the complete opposite.

Vlam 04-12-2016 10:38 AM

Nepsotic, aren't you a socialist?

Nepsotic 04-12-2016 10:50 AM

I've no fucking idea lol

Manco 04-12-2016 12:34 PM

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The regressive left is totally an existent thing. It's what you call people who call themselves 'the progressive left' because 99% of the time they are the complete opposite.

So, it’s a meaningless label you apply to people whose views are too SJW for your taste.

Nepsotic 04-12-2016 12:39 PM

Yes, just like how every single label is subjective.

Tired Glutton 04-12-2016 03:02 PM

So is it like a term you use to express your dissatisfaction with what you feel mainstream left wing politics has become?

Nepsotic 04-12-2016 03:08 PM

Has become/is becoming.



Varrok 04-12-2016 03:10 PM

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So is it like a term you use to express your dissatisfaction with what you feel mainstream left wing politics has become?

Like all labels, it's designed to describe a group of people. "Social justice warriors" in itself does not sound very negative, although it's used as an insult, because there are a lot of people on the internet who just call other people bigots/racists/sexists even when, in my opinion, it's completely uncalled for.

Same goes for "regressive left", as those people usually identify themselves with left wing politics, and call themselves "progressive", sometimes not even understanding the basic concepts like free spech.

Vlam 04-12-2016 03:25 PM

Nepsotic, why do you criticize your comrades?

Moot 04-13-2016 03:31 AM

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So, it’s a meaningless label you apply to people whose views are too SJW for your taste.

It's true. Like many buzzwords thrown about, the term "SJW" is absolutely meaningless and is just an insult. There aren't any political connotations, and there isn't a need to argue semantics when it comes to it.

Like the insults of calling someone a faggot or autist, they're almost never comments about what those words actually meant, they're used haphazardly because they have a crisp sound to them, and they immediately get across "this means something negative".

Dissociating the term with those who generally use it and its regular connotation.. SJW is someone who vehemently defends a social ideology. It's used to combat or refer to those defending the extreme feminist stances on the internet. Such as this Tracer's Butt fiasco.

Vlam 04-13-2016 03:52 AM

SJW make sense.

STM 04-13-2016 04:00 AM

Tbh when I think of SJW, I don't think of someone defending anyone, I think of a "nice guy" fedorabro who whiteknights for personal gain.

Vlam 04-13-2016 04:08 AM

I think most of them are sincere.

Nepsotic 04-13-2016 05:53 AM

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It's true. Like many buzzwords thrown about, the term "SJW" is absolutely meaningless and is just an insult. There aren't any political connotations, and there isn't a need to argue semantics when it comes to it.

Like the insults of calling someone a faggot or autist, they're almost never comments about what those words actually meant, they're used haphazardly because they have a crisp sound to them, and they immediately get across "this means something negative".

Dissociating the term with those who generally use it and its regular connotation.. SJW is someone who vehemently defends a social ideology. It's used to combat or refer to those defending the extreme feminist stances on the internet. Such as this Tracer's Butt fiasco.

Except it's really not meaningless or tossed about as much as you're trying to make people think. It's got a pretty clear meaning.
"Social justice warriors" are literally just that - warriors of social justice. Usually getting offended in other groups of peoples' behalfs, 'privilege checking', basically just doing whatever they can to make themselves feel more powerful and righteous than whoever they're debating.
That's another thing - they are the most self-entitled cunts you will ever meet.

Vlam 04-13-2016 05:58 AM

Except that there's nothing new about it. Other groups have taken the place of the "proletariat".

Moot 04-13-2016 03:52 PM

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doing whatever they can to make themselves feel more powerful and righteous than whoever they're debating.
That's another thing - they are the most self-entitled cunts you will ever meet.

That's my point.

"How dare Blizzard censor themselves!!!111!! This is disgraceful! We need to be upset, rablerablerable."

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How hypocritical. Fighting for ones own sense of personal justice, using the buzzword of "censorship!!!11!" to vehemently defend a moot point. That sounds like Social Justice Warriors to me. Blizzards replacement pose even enforces my reason for irritation, they're not being censored and never were.

The term is an insult now, and those using it are generally absentminded to how hypocritical it is. But I'll agree, SJW's are the most annoying cunts I'll ever have to silently listen to over the internet.

Nepsotic 04-13-2016 07:19 PM

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"How dare Blizzard censor themselves!!!111!! This is disgraceful! We need to be upset, rablerablerable."
Right, but nobody is actually saying this. It's perfectly understandable for Blizzard to change it what with how the market has evolved into a bunch of people, including the media, whining about gender politics in a medium they probably haven't even touched in their life.

Manco 04-13-2016 10:45 PM

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Right, but nobody is actually saying this.

Except for the people earlier in this thread getting mad about feminist censorship and irrational requests.


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It wouldn't be a non-issue, if Blizzard ignored the irrational request to remove the non-sexual pose.

The issue is that they didn't.

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And people say that feminists aren't ruining anything or censoring anybody's expression.


EVP_Glukkon 04-13-2016 10:47 PM

Who cares about irrational requests, idiots will say whatever they want. Blizzard decide what to ignore or not, they are just trying to please people to make money.

Varrok 04-13-2016 10:53 PM

I meant to say "It would be a non-issue, if Blizzard ignored the irrational request to remove the non-sexual pose."

Thanks for noticing my mistake.

Nepsotic 04-13-2016 11:24 PM

I was talking about the feminists, not Blizzard?

Varrok 04-13-2016 11:28 PM

I'm not really upset with Blizzard either, with the way they actually handled it.

Xorlidyr 04-14-2016 12:18 AM

SJW are just one of those people who have no fulfilling life or an ability to view things in a neutral manner.
I was a SJW once so I would know. I was an antitheist, islamophobic SJW.

STM 04-14-2016 12:40 AM

This thread:

Females is cunts ruining everything stop be sad take it as compliment men waNT to FUCK YOU. Blizzard only listening to angry feMALES ruining my game.