Before I begin this post, a little background to help you understand the situation.

In the UK you can smoke at 16 but you have to be 18 to buy cigarettes.

I have a friend who is 17 and is a full time smoker, he ran out on the day before yesterday ago but couldn't find anybody to buy him some. We were speaking on Xbox Live and he said that he was actually shaking because he needed one so badly. I said that I was going out later and that I would stop by his house and buy him some.

Stupid me....................I forgot............

Yesterday we met up, gave me his money and I bought him some cigarettes, he lit up and took a puff and said "Ahhhh that's better, it's been so long that I'm actually getting a head rush right now"

I don't need any justification. I don't give a shit. Casually drinking is very bad for liver... maybe YOU know need some justifications. Tell me it's not right then. Because you are casual drinkers and not casual smoker. I, as casual smoker, I don't care about what is going to happen to me. And you, as casual drinkers, you don't want to talk about effect of casually drinking.

Maybe you don't know how much ethanol does hurt to your body! I know how much nicotine hurts to me, the same of drinking. Maybe alcohol doesn't hurt your lungs, but you don't live only due to your lungs.

uh

YOU think that it isn't shown to cause any significant health defects and may possibly provide benefits.

US and pretty much all of mainstream science. Prove us wrong.

EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholic_liver_disease

Wikipedia isn't a reliable source per se, but that sentence is the most succinct explanation of my point I could find. However, every single article I found by googling 'Alcoholic Liver Disease' concurs.

Fortifying Nate's point with more reliable sources:

http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/content/w...wine-health/1/
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/20...-good-for-you/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/727912.stm

Now let's try to find an article saying a little smoke is good for you!

Will you find any nicotine lung disease informations about smoking from 3 to 5 cigarettes a day but not every day?

I apologize for having forgotten to tell you that I don't smoke every day. I'm sincere with you. I sometimes don't smoke a cigarettes for a week and then I smoke three cigarattes, then I don't for two days, then I smoke two cigarettes, then nothing, then five cigarettes (FOR EXAMPLE)


@Scrabtrapman: now let's try to be less ass-licker and boring.
AND I NEVER SAID SMOKE IS GOOD FOR ANYONE! I don't want to insult you, don't give me a chance.

People consume alcoholic beverages because primarily they enjoy the taste, but also because some because they like becoming intoxicated. In comparison smoking does neither; you only feel relaxed because you are experiencing withdrawal symptoms.

Also, don't call STM an ass-licker for supporting the obvious truth. If only same could be said when it came to faith.

What do you expect from me now? What do you want? He was annoying me.

The truth? We can't say what is the truth. You can't. I can't. I was explaing my point of view and you were putting shit all over me! Like you were some doctor or professor.

I'll do you one better:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...es-507818.html
http://esciencenews.com/articles/200...healthy.adults

OH SHIT YOU WERE RIGHT I WILL DIE SOON OH MY GOD!!!

And now??? Oh shit. I'm scared...

But...

I'm strong! xD

I love you OWF

Lung cancer is not something you should be joking about.

Sorry...

Lymphoma's funnier.

You know what AiN, fuck you. You think I'm arse licking? Let me tell you a little story about my Grandma. I loved her so much and used to go to her house every day, then she got lung disease from smoking, she died a very slow and painful death, she couldn't speak, we could barely see her and she was bed bound for months. It took years to get over that. So once again, fuck you.

I'm so very sorry for brandishing facts about what will eventually kill you if you keep on smoking. You're right, I'm a massive arse lick, yeah because I always jump on the band wagon.

Oh and I was annoying you? Boo fucking hoo, so sorry but the truth hurts.

Ok people, calm down. If you need to fight, take it to PMs...

I don't give a shit about your life or your stories. And you don't tell me fuck you from your PC, come here and tell me IN FRONT OF ME. It ends here for me. Bye.

EDIT: You're only good at neg repping, you make me laugh.

I'm not trying to fight but I got angry, angry at myself partially because I'm a hypocrite, I smoked two today for fuck sake. But at least I'm honest with myself, I know that it is killing me in some way or another.

But err, I can't say fuck you in front of your face, you live on the continent.

You'll understand you won't die for those two cigarettes. This is the problem dear Scrabtrapman (your name? I'm Fabio). It's only a common thought.

Ain, the physical cigarette that you are smoking is not what will kill you. But each and every cigarette you do smoke will increase your risk for health issues. Even one will do it.

Everyone talk about % of risk. But we know that also with the 99% of death risk a man could survive, because of that 1%.

@Scrabtrapman: try looking in your control panel.

Aidan, and the thing is it all adds up, that's what I'm trying to say, all the damage you are doing by smoking one or two, then none, then four, adds up.

I'm not venting at you you realise, I care enough to try and point out what smoking is doing to your health, I'd rather you didn't end up like my Gran did, she wasn't exactly a chain smoker.

The thing is, even one cigarette poses enough of a risk that you should at least be aware and accept that its really, really not healthy at all. THis is not a mere 'even the air poses a health risk'. Smoking poses a serious risk, and you are so much better off health wise not smoking.

Exactly, I try not to smoke but now when other people light up I want a cigarette too.

Fuck up and have a fag.

If people want to smoke, let them smoke. If they know about the health risks, at least they can't turn around and say they didn't know. As long as you're aware, I say.

I agree with with this...
I think we were just trying to explain to AIN where he was wrong.

If people like smoking, that is their business. :p

I don't smoke, but I've taken up pretending to smoke partially for sociability, but mainly because smokers get about 20 breaks at work compared to the single lunch break non-smokers have.

This is one thing that has always bothered me. Not enough to consider smoking, considering the associated smell and detriment to my health and whatnot...

I were wrong for saying that drinking hurts as smoking oh yeah probably, so if people want to drink, let them drink. Then we'll hear about some families killed by drunk bastards. And also for saying that living keeping an eye on % of risk in everything will keep you in your home in front of your PC. But some scientist said that spending too much time in fron of PCs you burn your neurons (and I'm not fucking kidding); what will I do in my life? I'll sleep!

You know, there is a chance I could be struck by lightning! So I might as shoot myself in the head and be over with it.

Now you're joking but I remember a girl was struck by a lightning on the beach because she was using her telephone! Jinx...

It is as much of a joke as the post that precedes it.

What the hell are you saying MoxCo., I wasn't joking. I was very serious.

It is not my responsibility that people choose to abuse a substance that was meant to be consumed in moderation.

Like I've said before, you can make anything sound bad by bringing in the extreme.

Mailmen are bad because they steal you mail, dogs are bad because they bite you and cause infections. Smoking is bad because people smoke 3 packs a aday and get cancer from it.
Now is this fair, Ain?

Also I didn't say to keep an eye out for every risk. Trust me. i eat junk food, I drink a lot of pepsi... All of which are really bad. (im actually aware that I drink more pepsi than I should, but that is my little secret addiction :P) ...

I just said that smoking even one cigarette poses enough of a risk that one should probably not do it. But if you do it, fully knowing of its implications and risks, then it is not our business anymore.

Also smoking is not the same as being struck by lightening.... Being struck by lightening is so rare, that I have no idea why you would even bring that up. Besides, even from being struck by lightening, you have a chance to survive.

Pepsi (and so Coca Cola) is this.

I hope you knew that; and also keep an eye on it xD

I know what Pepsi and Coke is :P I've looked into the matter....

You can get cancer from drinking energise and red bull too.

You don't know what inorganic acids are, trust me ;)