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Bullet Magnet 04-25-2015 02:25 PM

What were you expecting, "a torrid affair"? Please. Just give me my rocket bike and leave with what dignity you came with.

FrustratedAssassin 04-26-2015 01:09 AM

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Just give me my rocket bike

OK
http://i.imgur.com/ScXdFdU.png

STM 04-26-2015 01:23 AM

FA can give you what you want much better than I ever could. :(

Varrok 04-26-2015 01:32 AM

The back wheel won't last much being that close to the engine. Just saying.

Also, why would you ever need a rocket bike? Too lazy to pedal? It's healthy. And rocket fuel is expensive. Also, human reflexes aren't really compatible with driving too fast

FrustratedAssassin 04-26-2015 01:34 AM

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The back wheel won't last much being that close to the engine. Just saying.

Yeah but jet fuel can't melt steel beams.

Varrok 04-26-2015 01:37 AM

I'm more concerned about the tire

Crashpunk 04-26-2015 02:18 AM

Well this thread went off the rails.

Or should I say, off the pedals. hurhurhurhurhurhur...

Wil 04-26-2015 04:17 AM

Rocket bikes confirmed for Exoddus.

Varrok 04-26-2015 08:33 AM

Wheelchairs*

Hulaabeo 04-26-2015 03:28 PM

The one thing that truly bothered me about New N Tasty was the random smog effect actin gas the shadows. It worked in the factory with pipes spewing pollution and all the jazz, but not in the stockyards.

HOMINIX 04-26-2015 06:16 PM

As long as they do the original locales justice, offer more control options, and generally tighten up the core mechanics of NNT and I would be ecstatic. Add new segments or lengthen old ones and I'd be over the moon.

PS: Sligstorm DLC would allow me to die satisfied

caidoozap 05-01-2015 03:58 PM

I've been gone from here for a long time, just purchased New N' Tasty for PS3 and completed it. Overall great game and I'm sure this has been mentioned before but I feel "fan music" should be left as fan music, not incorporated into the actual game even if it's the end credits. It removes you from the fantasy world which is a real shame. Defenders will argue that "its only end credits not the actual game" but it is still an element of it and one that anyone who cares to complete it will have to endure. It's not appropriate for Oddworld and kills the overall atmosphere. Listening to the original credits from the PSX is so much more enjoyable. If this song were included as an unlockable extra "Fan Art" menu or something I'd be fine with that, but not as an actual part of the game. I just hope Exoddus Twice Ze Flavor will not have anything equally inappropriate this time around. Before anyone gets defensive I am not critiquing the quality of the end credits music, just how out of place it feels in the Oddworld universe.

I would also like to see Exoddus include additional areas/new cutscenes not in the original so the story would be more immersive (not that the original wasn't PERFECT!) and by that I do not mean replacing anything or excluding re-making of old cutscenes, but rather adding more (yeah that might be greedy but it has been a LONG time since anyone has had their Oddworld fix).

Fine-tune those controls, the pressure sensitivity makes Abe more clumsy (even for a mudokon) and trying to stop so you don't run into mines can be annoying (Boardroom meeting area).

Other than that I'm sure JAW will do a FINE job! (I still want Sligstorm)

Scrabaniac 05-03-2015 09:13 AM

As long as JAW fix the slog sounds, give the sligs a little less "mommy!!" and nail the tension like in the original (you know when that high pitched violin plays when you've woken up a slog or fleech?).

As for cutscenes, i liked the one with the two Scrabs in New n Tasty, but i still prefer the original, as it showed abe escaping via pure luck of hitting his head on that pipe to avoid the Sligs. Hopefully they will keep the cutscenes (or majority of them) the same or at least similar, and add new ones to replace the zooming in to the temples like NNT did.

I'd also like to see more of the Brewmaster.. we only got to see him a few times, and he was supposedly the big bad guy of Exoddus, but only seemed like a cameo :/

Henchman1028 05-03-2015 01:41 PM

Give us a reward for killing all the Mudokons that are possible to kill without making the game unwinnable (I was disappointed that you didn't get anything for doing it in New N' Tasty, not even infinite grenades like in the original Oddysee), maybe invincibility for the difficulty you are on like in the original Exoddus.

Scrabaniac 05-03-2015 02:00 PM

I think invincibility would be way too easy. You choose hard more for a reason, if you want a proper challenge. Invincibility should't be an option. For easy mode i guess would be okay. Maybe add different rewards for different difficulties: Easy - Invincibility. Normal - Infinite Grenades - Hard - Infinite Shrykull. At least with infinite shrykull you can still die, and lose the ability temporarily when you run through security lasers.

V_O_T 05-03-2015 05:15 PM

I miss the fizzle when creatures die in oddworld.

And death from falling from high places. I had Abe fall 2 stories in NnT and his fragile legs got him back up like a champ lol.

Henchman1028 05-03-2015 05:36 PM

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I miss the fizzle when creatures die in oddworld.

And death from falling from high places. I had Abe fall 2 stories in NnT and his fragile legs got him back up like a champ lol.

Yeah. Apparently Abe got a adamantium skeleton in NnT.

Scrabaniac 05-05-2015 06:53 AM

Hopefully they'll fix the falling survival issue.. Otherwise Abe could just skip the majority of Slig Barracks, which actually tested your ability to time jumps.

New 'n' Tasty 05-05-2015 07:20 AM

i want abe to go splat when he falls from 2 screen fall maybe just one hard or med but no on easy

kjjcarpenter 05-05-2015 11:30 PM

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I'd also like to see more of the Brewmaster.. we only got to see him a few times, and he was supposedly the big bad guy of Exoddus, but only seemed like a cameo :/

The Brewmaster was the big bad? I always saw him as the only available alternative the company had to keep things operational. Molluck was M.I.A. after all, and the Board of Executives for the Soulstorm Brew Project had all spontaneously combusted. The only management remaining in the brewery amounted to the Brewmaster himself and a handful of Junior Executives, who were more concerned about selling their remaining stocks than preventing another terrorist insurrection.

He wasn't a big bad. He was just a lower-class gluk trying to do a job entrusted to him. And he failed something severe.

FrustratedAssassin 05-06-2015 07:11 AM

I just remembered one thing from NnT that I hated with a passion.

The tilted fucking camera in the level hubs. No idea why that design decision got approved, but it was a horrible, horrible one. The best way to do hubs is from a static camera IMO, like in the original games.

Shrykull43 05-06-2015 04:23 PM

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I just remembered one thing from NnT that I hated with a passion.

The tilted fucking camera in the level hubs. No idea why that design decision got approved, but it was a horrible, horrible one. The best way to do hubs is from a static camera IMO, like in the original games.

Agreed, seeing that same hub layout in static camera would be like a punch in the face from nostalgia herself.

Nate 05-06-2015 10:53 PM

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The Brewmaster was the big bad? I always saw him as the only available alternative the company had to keep things operational. Molluck was M.I.A. after all, and the Board of Executives for the Soulstorm Brew Project had all spontaneously combusted. The only management remaining in the brewery amounted to the Brewmaster himself and a handful of Junior Executives, who were more concerned about selling their remaining stocks than preventing another terrorist insurrection.

He wasn't a big bad. He was just a lower-class gluk trying to do a job entrusted to him. And he failed something severe.

I agree. I saw AE as trying to widen the world and express more about Industrial culture as a whole, rather than simply Molluck as a villain. So there isn't a singular villain that must be defeated in the game.

JayDee 05-07-2015 05:20 AM

At the time of production I'll be living no less than 20 minutes from the JAW offices for university, so I'd be happy to grunt into a microphone for them.

I just want Fleeches to give the newest generation of Oddworld players the same amount of grief and nightmares that they gave me as a kid.

Crashpunk 05-07-2015 05:22 AM

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I just want Fleeches to give the newest generation of Oddworld players the same amount of grief and nightmares that they gave me as a kid.
This.

It was mostly the music that made them terrifying. Interested to see how this will look in 3D.

Bullet Magnet 05-07-2015 05:37 AM

Am I the only one who wanted a pet fleech after playing that as a kid?

Shrykull43 05-07-2015 02:22 PM

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Am I the only one who wanted a pet fleech after playing that as a kid?

nope xD

Havoc 05-07-2015 02:48 PM

Fleeches better be terrifying in 3D!

Bullet Magnet 05-07-2015 04:04 PM

Do we want them maggoty like the sprites, or reptilian like the manual portrait?

Shrykull43 05-07-2015 04:06 PM

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Do we want them maggoty like the sprites, or reptilian like the manual portrait?

Definetly the manual portrait

Scrabaniac 05-07-2015 04:30 PM

I can imagine them being more reptilian like the portraits.. and even have a sound replacement like the scrabs and paramites did.. But made to sound like alligators.

Bullet Magnet 05-07-2015 04:38 PM

I liked the frog calls.

Havoc 05-08-2015 05:26 AM

Wait, Fleeches had sounds?

Crashpunk 05-08-2015 06:15 AM

If I recall. They have little chirps when they're idle and looking for Abe.

Havoc 05-08-2015 06:49 AM

I thought that was the slugs.

Bullet Magnet 05-08-2015 07:41 AM

Slurgs only have a death cry.

Havoc 05-08-2015 09:03 AM

Huh.

STM 05-08-2015 10:09 AM

MYAH. MYAH. MYAH.

Poor slurgs. :(

Also fleeches need to be reptamphibigotty.

Scrabaniac 05-08-2015 02:39 PM

Fleeches made screeching noises when they were woken up or alerted, as well as burping when they eat a creature whole.

lukeyk22 05-10-2015 03:16 PM

Hi, I’m a long time Abe player but 1st time poster. I absolutely love new n tasty and glad they’re doing exodus as well. I haven’t played exodus for a long time and don’t intend to till the remake, (it’s so tempting, it’s on my ps3 and ready to go but I’d rather wait for twice ze flavour) so my wants are based more from what I didn't like from new n tasty.
1st off I got my ps4 in November and didn't even think about new n tasty till it was free on ps+ (I did watch an E3 trailer but for some reason it just wasn't on my radar) but if there was a demo (just like the original demo) I would have played it to death then brought game.
2nd leaderboards are great but you do need a separate 100% category for each level (where it’s applicable)
3rd I went through phases with new n tasty, my 1st playthrough was on easy I got 87% and took 7 1/2 hours (its been about 4/5 years since playing the original and I was enjoying it) then I looked at the trophy's and started doing the 100% runs. I’d go on youtube to try to find the secret places but it seemed that 2 youtubers in particular had a monopoly on new n tasty and where I wanted a quick 3min vid just to point out the locations, id have to sit through these guys full "speed"(lol) runs just to find that 1 secret location I couldn't remember. Any way half way through normal something snapped in me and I started going as fast as I could, not saving anyone. You see the thing I love Abe for is its 4/5 games in 1 and the trophy's seem to force you to play 1 way and as much as I love the 100% way I also love the any% way just as much. The trophy hunter in me wanted to do 100% for each difficulty but the gamer in me just wanted to play Abe and have fun. My main point is you need more of a balance in trophies for each game style, I don’t know what exactly maybe a any% speedrun trophy.

So to sum up, there’s got to be a demo (pre launch ideally), more leaderboards (maybe a daily/weekly in game shout out to new No1s) and have trophies balanced, it’s a catch 22 I know with 100% trophies, maybe it’s the number of difficulties or have a set for any% with a time limit as well.
Sorry for the long post and ramblings, I just hope someone understands the points I’m trying to make.