OK im not reading tem but Im gonan stop this pathetic arguement before it gets personal.Lets get back on-topic

You don't like this argument because you know I'm right and you won't read the posts because you know it will prove so. You're very lazy, and as I said before, you can't say someone is wrong until you've read the arguments on both sides, which you still refuse to do.

Fine.

Let's put it this way:

If you don't want to kill your pests, whatever, don't kill them. Waste money on getting some dude to come in and do the job for you because you're too much of a fucking wuss. Ultimately, YOU seal the animals fate, so you are responsible for its death if you call in a pest exterminator, so you better not do that either.

In fact, fuck it, just live with them and never kill anything ever, and die because you refuse to eat anything that was once living, including plants. You think controlling is wrong? Don't do it. Leave a harmless trap and release the animal into your back yard where it will just find its' way back in again.

Don't want birds nesting on your roof? Well according to Jacob, the answer to that one is to construct hideous and completely ineffective barb-wire and spike contraptions that make your house look like a jail. YES, ineffective - the local tax office tried it, and seagulls STILL nest on their roof.

Oh, and put your garbage into a can so that when the garbage collection men come round, they won't bother with yours, and will just leave it there in the can because they refuse to open them - and when you ask them why, they'll just tell you about the rule in their company that says they are not allowed to collect from garbage cans. That's a great idea isn't it.

Also, don't forget to accuse anyone who doesn't do things this way of wanting to "hunt" to satisfy their "primtive instinct" - that should tell them how much you really understand the way this world works.

See you just wanna keep up this arguement?Im not gonna argue cos its more or less spam and I dont want a warning.And even if I am lazy I dont see why I shud spend 10 mins reading something which is totally off-topic.And sligslinger I dont give **** if youre right or wrong Im not argueing wether u like it or not

Cyberslig, you dumbass newbie, will you please just stop telling us not to fucking argue? It's not an argument, it's a heated debate, and both me and Jacob are enjoying actually fucking using our brains for once instead of taking part in repetative, mind numbing, neutral banter where nobody really engages their opinions on anything at all.

Just because we don't agree doesn't mean we can't have a discussion. It's not automatically an argument or a fight just because both sides don't agree. We ARE allowed to have a discussion like this without some newbie twit butting in every other post professing of how bad and wrong this "arguing" is.

Yes, it is spam, so stop doing it. If you carry on, then someone is bound to warn you.

Now fuck off and stop telling us what to do. Let us have our debate free of yes-men lap-dogs.

You seemed to have a fun time contradicting everything I said for 20 minutes but won't bother to read some posts that would take you under 5 minutes (unless you're a retard or something). You have no problem telling me I'm wrong but seem to be against finding out if I'm right. And it's not spam.

I like cheese. juasdhf;orshgohgrhh. AARRGH!!! ;) :D ;) :)

That's spam right there. We are having a sensable conversation that you keep twisting to win this 'argument', as you so affectionately call it. You are the one who hates losing so you resort to swearing and saying you don't care, but you obviously do care, if you didn't you wouldn't bother to reply. You don't care if I'm right? Good! Because I am, so shut up.

He's only 11, guys. I wouldn't take it too seriously.

-oddguy

Age doesn't matter. It's the fact that he thinks he knows more than someone 4 years older than him that pisses me off.

You've spent ages telling us to "stop arguing" while backhandedly throwing in your own thoughts on the matter. It's always something like: "I agree with Jacob but this has to stop".

That vacuous gap between your ears should have a brain in it - I suggest you put one there and use it to work out whether you are going to bother with this "argument" or continue to tell us all about how wrong we are to be "arguing" over something like this when your opinions are apparantly so obviously the right ones.

EDIT: This kid is 11? That answers for a lot. :D

Very much so. But, don't use big words against him, Codek. He won't know what to say.

Well, his profile says he's 11. Ya never know for sure on the internet.

-oddguy

Yes I am 11 oddguy but age doesnt matter.You guys take things way too serious.Its not a debate its off-topic.You cant do nothing without insulting and swearing at me.Have youre ****ing ''debate'' all you want for all I care but if yu get a warning its not my fault.Im trying to get on-topic here but you guys take it like its the end of the world.I do not swear at you and call you names so why do you do it to me?
and i never said you should stop I said IM not argueing.I dont wish to start a war with ya or something so I will stop argueing.Im trying to be friendly here about it but I dont see the point if it doesnt even seep into youre skull.

You want to stop an argument, then stop replying! That's the only way we'll continue this conversation without you. And we won't get a warning because this Off-topic discussion and a valid discussion such as this won't stop because of a warning. The only reason this debate is becoming an argument is because you keep replying with something else to say. Shut up! The only one who's spamming here is you.

Look then fine?Im sorry if its helps.But you should really create a thread for this stuff man.But seeing as ya take it too serious and dont want to Ill back out....

CS, i think Oddguy meant to say that you're only 11 and thus can't really put your point across too well. Although the way he did phrase it came off as patronising, i'm sure it was meant as the opposite.

'YES, ineffective - the local tax office tried it, and seagulls STILL nest on their roof.'

And as we all know, if THE local tax office tries it, it won't work for NOBODY. Oh yes. Guaranteed fact.

'Oh, and put your garbage into a can so that when the garbage collection men come round, they won't bother with yours, and will just leave it there in the can because they refuse to open them - and when you ask them why, they'll just tell you about the rule in their company that says they are not allowed to collect from garbage cans. That's a great idea isn't it.'

Oh, i forgot, the SAME company do their thing with all the houses in England. Yes, damn, if only there were different trash companies. If only...i'm sure we'd find animal-human utopia then...

What exactly is it about the fact that it's a tax office that discredits that information or makes it non-applicable to anyone else? Exactly how many ways can you cover your roof in wire and spikes before you realise that it doesn't work? I can see the tax office roof from my study window, and I can see the birds on it during the day. Why the hell should I waste money on that sort of ugly crap if I have already witnessed it not working elsewhere?

I'm talking about my situation here, not the rest of the UK, planet earth, milky way, universe, PO BOX 123 G.O.D.

Yes, that is what you should do if your trash collection people will pick it up like that, but some don't. And unfortunately mine don't. That's all I'm trying to get across to you.