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Lucipher 02-07-2004 09:56 AM

NO! BIN LADEN WOULD NOT GET IN FOR WHAT HE DID TO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER!! HA HA HA! I'M RIGHT YOUR WRONG! STICK THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT! :fuzgrin: :fuzmad: :fuzsmile:

Statikk HDM 02-20-2004 11:54 AM

Jacob, it happens nowadays too. I really don't have much sympathy for people who pussy out of marriages quickly. Bin Laden wouldn't go to Heaven. Suicide and murder are huge taboos in Islam, its an automatic ticket to Hell if you're an unrepentant suicider or murderer. Just because someone BELIEVES something is kosher doesn't mean it is. For instance, if in my mind I thought it to be pure and praiseworthy to rape someone's sister and then kill her by smacking her 69 times in the face with a titanium dildo that doesn't mean it is pure or praiseworthy.

Jacob 02-21-2004 01:45 AM

'I really don't have much sympathy for people who pussy out of marriages quickly.'

It would've happened loads back in the early 1900's if people weren't so fearful of what society would say or what would happen when they died. Quite a few marriages where shams anyway because the husband was Gay.

'Just because someone BELIEVES something is kosher doesn't mean it is.'

No, which is obvious by the example you gave. But in terms of Religion the line becomes blurred. Osama Bin Laden believes so much that if he "helps" his country fight against America and give them some of their own medicine then he will go to his Heaven. The Suicide Bombers also believe that they are doing their Gods work and fighting the "evil" that is the Americans.

Sure, their actions may be totally screwed up, but their Hearts are in the right place. They want to help their country and they feel as if they're doing right. The same thing happens in Christianity and Catholicism. There's so much hate in both of these Religions, yet because their Religion is the "true" one and they love their God, they will still go to Heaven.

Its a shame that when people think of Satanism they automaticly think "Virgin Sacrifices. Goat Sacrifices. Badness." because when it comes down to it, if i ever have kids i would much rather my children be apart of that then Christianity or Catholicism anyday. Atleast Satanism is accepting, bar the stupid people, whereas Christianity and Catholicism do their damndest to make everybody believe they are correct.

On a seperate note - if Angels didn't have freewill, then how the Hell did they rebel? Surely you need freewill to go against your creator.

Statikk HDM 02-23-2004 10:31 AM

I don't know how many times I'm gonna have to say this, but murder and suicide are BIG MOTHER****ING NO-NOS in Islam.
Anyhow, you can't say that just because someone thinks its right its right or because it is their religion thats right. What if it was my religion to kill innocent bystanders while eating puppy fetuses and I sincerely thought that this would bring about the destruction of all evilness and the fulfillment of various religious prophecies and promises? It doesn't sanctify it or make it correct.

Jacob 02-23-2004 10:50 AM

Don't ask me to explain it, but somebody on this forum said that if your Heart is pure then you will go to Heaven. Somebody may do something thats immensly bad otherwise, but because they believe its okay, their Heart is pure...and thus...Heavenness.

Statikk HDM 02-26-2004 05:33 AM

No, they can only achieve it through repentance. That how it is with the Big Three Monotheistic religions. In other religions that believe in reincarnation you come back as a crappy animal like a pubic mite or tapeworm or get damned straight to their version of Hell.

Jacob 02-26-2004 08:06 AM

Once again, don't take it up with me. Take it up with the person who stated this.