The mail issue is due to Hotmail having part of our provider blacklisted for some reason. The workaround for now is that I manually forward the bounced email back to the person who requested it.

This seemed to have worked fine for Ridley who has already done some great job :D

This looks awesome. I'll definitely contribute to all the ALIVE and ALIVE 2 pages :)

You should have the confirmation mail now mlg man :)

In the meanwhile Wil is looking into ways to have us removed from the blacklist :)

FAO Ridley

Regarding the apostrophes (and hyphens and such), don't worry about manually changing any more. I'll make a bot to sort them all out in one swoop.

Fair enough. :fuzwink:

Seems like the blacklisting issue will take some time to be resolved. In the meanwhile I'll continue to forward mails manually to people who want to register. :)

While Xavier is busy getting his own wiki on track I've made a couple of contributions to the Oddworld Wikia. For now I edited the page about Fleeches and included a lot of info from TOE, including the proper attribution in the talk page of course. Too bad a lot of the original sources have been lost in time. Also fixed the page for New 'n' Tasty and Abe's Exoddus HD.

Edit: On another note, the Oddworld Wikia apparently now has an owner that is invested in cleaning up the mess on the wiki, but has little time to do it alone. If Xavier is willing I'm pretty sure he'd love to have you on the admin team to help out.

I think it would be good to set up a wiki on gamepedia or something of the sort. wikia.com seems to be overly filled with ads these days.

Why do that when he already created the wiki on a domain he owns? It's better that way. Wikia is shit and it's sad that great wikis like the Fallout and GTA ones have gone to shit because half the community went independent and the other half stayed on wiki.

But this, this one is affiliated with the Forum, which is probably the only place you can find people interested in this wiki anyway.

Problem with Wikis is that for any given subject, like you say, there's 3 different wiki sites. There are very little general differences to be found between Wikis. The general idea is the same everywhere; everyone can add and edit articles. Easy as that. Gamepedia has ads just like Wikia has. Maybe less of them, but ads all the same.

As a community I think you want to avoid having 3 or 4 different wikis around the internet, usually all with conflicting information. Fact is that right now there are 2 wiki's available for Oddworld.

The Oddworld Encyclopedia
No offence to Xavier and Will, but that site is immensely outdated. The information on it is limited to in-universe lore and even then it's not complete. For example, there are no articles on any of the industrial factories or organizations like the Magog Cartel. It's all very basic, which of course is not to say it wasn't a lot of work to gather all that information, but that site is almost as old as Oddworld itself and hasn't been updated all that much since then. The last major updates, according to the site itself, were in 2008. It's outdated in almost every way, information, look, software framework, even some links to sources are broken and have been that way for a long time.

The Oddworld Wikia
This Wikia was started in 2005 and was originally quite a mess due to the high amount of fiction and made up facts that people wrote down. It was also frequently vandalized and didn't get the attention it needed. The Wikia was considered a joke here on the forum for good reason. But somewhere in 2011 that Wikia got a new admin that did try his best to clean up the mess best he could. Many of the articles on there are now fairly accurate, even if a lot of them still miss citation and a lot of others still do need to be cleaned up. But as it stands, the Wikia is currently the most up to date Oddworld wiki in existence. When you Google for 'Oddworld Wiki', the Encyclopedia doesn't even show up on the first two pages.

Now, I can see the desire to start an own wiki that is maintained by some of the most involved and knowledgeable individuals in the fanbase, but if only a select number of hand picked individuals get to edit it, what's the point? Eventually it's going to fall into disrepair just like the current Encyclopedia. The entire point of a wiki is that it's open for editing by anyone and that changes are easily reverted.

As for starting another Wiki on Gamepedia, that would mean we get three competing Wikis all with differing grades of information. I don't think that's in any way desirable.

I would much rather see that effort of starting a new wiki, or upgrading the current Encyclopedia, be put into fixing and cleaning the Wikia. It's not as bad as it used to be by a long shot, except for a few pages. But that's where a dedicated editing crew can make a difference. If contributing to an Oddworld wiki is something people really want to do, we should at least make sure we focus that effort in once place and not spread it around 3 different ones.

Just my $0,02.

>Complaining about improper Latin on Oddworld Forums

Each section is technically it's own forum in the classic sense of the word. So 'forums' would be correct me thinks.

I think he means the plural should be "fora".

I'm pretty sure that Wil has had that argument with Peter.

But I must admit that my preference for ligature is less to do with what's more Latin-correct and more about me being a pretentious git.

Yes, that's even better than setting up one on Gamepedia.

Not in English :)

You've got very good points here and I too felt it was time for a complete revamp of the look and software framework. This is why I've spent a lot of time finding a nice skin that's easy to use and I think I finally found what I wanted: a nice and easy skin based on bootstrap.

I've reworked the front page but I'm not totally happy with it yet:

http://oddworldlibrary.net/wiki/

On the other hand I really like how standard pages now look:

http://oddworldlibrary.net/wiki/Abe

Most of the old content of the Oddworld Encyclopedia has now been moved to the mediawiki platform and I am now looking in some good solutions to interlink this with the content of TOGG :)

Again, any feedback or help is welcome! Registration is open to anyone. :)

Very fancy, looks great. A thousand times better than what it was. Did you have to manually port over all the content?

Thank you :)

The old encyclopedia was only static pages so unfortunately the port could not be automated.

That definitely looks better. Well done Xav! I'll have to actually have a proper dig through the site I think. + rep for you.