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...Well pointed out. God fucking damn it.
Whatever, you knew what I mean. |
A Clockwork Orange is a crazy movie. I really need to rewatch it (possibly while intoxicated) to really understand what's going on. Awesome movie, though.
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I hate the Blair Bitch Project.
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to be honest i didn't mind the Blair Witch Project. i think the hype at the time was too big so it's mediocrity let everyone down. on it's own, i thought it was an alright film.
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It was boring as hell that's what it was. The sequel was one of the worst films I've ever seen.
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City Of God. Wow. I forgot how much i adore that movie, it's a fabulous whirlwind of drugs and shootings.
It's also based on a true story, which makes me sad. |
I've been planning on watching that movie for a while now. I've been actually making a list of classic/great movies that I should watch. Currently, I have these on the list:
- Fight Club - Irreversible (Don't know if I can watch it from what I've heard of the rape scene) - Requiem of a Dream - Reservoir Dogs - Memento - Donnie Darko If someone would like to request something, I'll be sure to add it to the list and watch it later on. |
Memento and Donnie Darko are heavily overrated. Just saiyan.
Wasn't The Prestige on that list a while ago? |
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I never said either of those films were bad. Presumably he's forming this list from how big these films' individual hype is.
Though I will now say that Donnie Darko was indeed a very bad film. |
You are crazy. Donnie Darko was a very good film.
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So I'll start with Donnie Darko then. I want to know which one of you is right.
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The plot is highly entertaining stupidity, but the dialogue is absolutely masterful.
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Appropriately enough, I'm getting deja vu. We've had this discussion before.
I'm sorry, but any film that concludes that the events you just watched never happened or even mattered is stupid. It's no better than 'It was all a dream'. EDIT: Okay, speedy shits. So me and WoF agree. It just seems we prioritise structure and style inversely. |
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Also it's one of the only times I've ever seen amnesia used as a plot device that didn't make me want to claw my eyes out.
Not just as a psychologist, as a viewer. Amnesia is a bullshit and stupid plot device and I hate it. |
I thought it was gimmicky. Without the shuffled continuity there's nothing to like. Acting, average, writing, average, camerawork, average. You get the idea.
It's a one-trick pony. If it was the only pony that could do that trick, I'd be interested, but it isn't, so I'm not. |
You cannot critique the writing independently of the 'gimmick'. They are intrinsically linked.
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I can and just did. In chronological order it would be a dull and predictable movie. They took a rubbish plot and shuffled it up. It doesn't make it a good plot.
Artificially limiting the audience's access to events does not make those events any more credible or dramatic. If you watch Citizen Kane already knowing what Rosebud is, you'll still appreciate a fantastic story. When I watch Memento already knowing what order things happened, the individual scenes just seem ridiculous. |
The problem is that Memento’s plot is structured around the reversed chronology. Sure if you watch the whole thing in order, the plot is predictable, but that’s because the main twist is then presented in the first scene.
The whole point of Memento’s structure is that it fucks with your perception of the events that occur. Just saying “oh well watching it in order is boring” is really stupid. |
I'm finding it difficult to phrase this right.
What I mean is that if it was a good story it would be good in its own right, and then get shuffled up. Anyone can shuffle up a continuty. It just seemed like a lazy way of trying to seem challenging and intellectual. Hence 'gimmicky'. |
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Hmm. Well I haven't watched it recently enough to give any more specific criticisms, and I doubt either side of this argument is going to change their opinion.
Moving on. I rewatched some of the first series of Psychoville. Now there was a good show. |
Oh yeah. I completely forgot to metion I also watched Quadrophenia in Media (We are doing about Youth Subculture.) I thought it was a very good film, It really intrigued about Mods and Rockers and how they were. Saying that though - according to my teacher the film was a bit inaccurate in how they acted.
Oh and get this, We are doing Youth Subcultures and we are NOT studying Punk. What a load. |
Well, there goes watching Memento I guess since I read those posts.
I didn't finish watching Donnie Darko yet, I'll watch the latter half tomorrow. |
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We didn't spoil anything If anything, more of Donnie Darko has been spoiled by this discussion than Memento. |
Oh. Oh well.
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watched Follow A Star with Norman Wisdom. i mean Norman Wisdom was in the film, not that i watched it with him.
great stuff. i find his laugh so infectious. |
My grandmother was obsessed with Norman Wisdom films when I was a kid, but I can only remember On the Beat and Up in the World. Maybe one where he played an army recruit.
So good though. Especially On the Beat. |
I fucking love Norman Wisdom. A Stitch in Time was one of the funniest things I ever saw, especially when Grimsdale tries to get him to jump in front of the van to get into hospital.
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a couple of favourite scenes from Follow A Star: skip to 2:30 there's tons more scenes that had me in stitches, but these are the only ones i could find. |
I just watched A Fistful of Dollars for the dozenth time and found it highly entertaining. I love stupid Western films.
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That's a great movie. It's a scene by scene remake of Yojimbo, but it's still great.
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I do love that movie, I’ll have to watch it again soon. |
I think "dated" is a better word than "stupid". I see a lot of things which are now regarded as clichés, which are, in my opinion, the best parts.
I like The Good, the Bad and the Ugly more, though. I should also mention Unforgiven which is much more recent, but I liked it as much as any of them. Very different tone, though - different kind of film. |
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I love whole Dollars trilogy, and I keep meaning to try and find similar films from the genre. |
They exist, but none are as good.
Try El Topo. It's not quite what you're looking for but it's kind of in the same vein, and holy shit is that movie a mind fuck. |
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