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The one that Depths stated as sposed to be a piece of space ice coming down from space when the military were testing out their weapons. The missile sposedly pushed the ice out of the way. But the counter argument for that was that the piece of 'ice' stopped for half a second and then moved out of the way. Thus proving there was some sort of tactical manouver, |
I've seen so many alien sighting specials.......bought so many alien sighting books.....and I swear that I once saw a UFO......I also once recorded half of an alien autopsy show on the SCI-FI channel.....I only got half because my mom told me to turn it off because they were about to cut open the eye.....I WANTED TO SEE THAT!!!!!
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IF YOU MET MY BROTHER THEN YOU WOULD BELIEVE!!!
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Thanks for that, Al. Things seem to keep pointing to me getting that book, so I shall now do just that.
There seems to be a very good amount of people involved in this discussion, that is a great thing! I want to ask this to people reading here: Does anyone here think or have reason to believe that they have been abducted and/or have any implants? I'd like to know who else here has any input on that question, be it in this open thread or through personal communication with me. Sligster: May I ask for how long you have been interested in extraterrestrials? Do you know if it was gradual or if it just 'all of the sudden' started? And unfortunately, the "Alien Autopsy" video that was shown a few years ago was proved fake. However, it is felt by myself and others that this was not created for the sole means of deception. It's more of an attention-getter. But also, it is just too bad because it decreases the overall credibility of the real experiences and beings themselves; along with the people who share their true experiences. M.O.M: Some crop circles are fake. However, there are those which ARE real. The real ones are most commonly those that do appear overnight and are incredibly large and intricate. Here is one of my favorites; it is in the Crabwood forest in Winchester, England:   The circle was decoded; it was encoded quite ingeniously in standard ASCII binary. For more information on this, visit: http://www.earthfiles.com/news/news....ry=Environment Oh, and Lindsey; thanks for sharing that with us. There's really no reason to be shy or embarassed about it; regardless of what you believe, there are going to be those out there who think the exact opposite. Again, thanks! Oh yes I almost forgot. Last sunday I happened to capture some black triangles floating in the sky over Carson City/Gardnerville. I had two cameras on it and have dumped the footage onto VHS. It was nice, because I got them in the daylight, before the sun went down. I also dumped the footage into my computer in AVI format... but it's 2.8GB total!! Somehow I'm going to make it smaller so I can share it. I'm also willing to distribute video tapes of what I caught. Anyone interested in a copy? I later found out that what I caught on tape was not extraterrestrial in origin, but in fact US-government manufactured. Still, it's great footage! You can see that these things are not airplanes, helicopters or balloons... they just appear to float without a sound, and change direction with the snap of a finger. |
I like the 1st one, t'is very pretty. But why would they produce big, passport photo's on crops? Nearly all crop circles can be faked...you cant really say its real when you haven't seen the things create it.
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Yes Jacob; I agree that just about anything can be faked. However, do not dismiss this without fully reading up on it. To do so would be folly. I only stated that this particular one was my favorite.
Ah yes, I suggest that you actually see what I caught on tape before also dismissing it. I went through all the logical possibilities... helicopter, balloon, flying wing, ..stealth bombers, and other things. None of things sit perfectly still in the sky nor do they move below 50 knots. I took this footage down to the local airport do do an investigation... and none of the pilots or officials there could even lay a finger on what these objects were. I even have testimony of my visit to the airport on tape. |
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I'm not ruling out the possibility of extra-terrestrial life, but I'm going to at least question these fairly big claims. Even if the 'grays' are real, you've got to at least examine the supposed tactics they've employed to warn of nuclear war.
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The thingies Pilot may have seen may of been a Government cross between a Harrier Jet (which can hover) and a Stealth bomber.
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I haven't posted for a few weeks, so this seems like a great topic to post again seeing as I have an interest in this area. I've been interested in aliens for as long as I can remember, not an intense interest like some have, but still a strong interest neverless. I've always been watching documentaries and specials on the subject, or also about ancient civilizations and the like.
My first experiences in seeing UFOs all occurred on the OddTour. Prior to that I had never seen anything of such nature, although my mum informs me that she had seen such when she was a lot younger than she is now. Justin, as you were also present at the time of the things that I saw, do you have any further thoughts on these as you seem to have been doing a lot of extensive research on thesse kinds of things. In particular the objects we saw up at White Cliffs in outback Australia, which were very small squares? of light which were stationary and then darted off into different directions. It's interesting what you said about the video you took being of government craft (I didn't know you took the footage when you offered me a tape the other week, that must have been very exciting for you). I believe that the government have not only had alien technology for years, but also that they have had contact with aliens. The government seems to be hiding something and just say that places like Area 51 are just secret military installations. I think there is more to all of this than we are being told. I also feel that the government are preventing information from being given to the public, and this may actually go as far as censoring some of the documentaries that we see so that we only see some information that they want us to see. Although I am sure that some of them do get through without such censorship. I took the abdudction test, but my results appeared in conclusive. I kind of guessed I'd get results along those lines, simply because my life hasn't been one where many "unusual occurrances" have occurred. I'd like to know if anyone else took that test and got a positve answer. I think Jacob was the only one who gave his results, and they were the same as mine. Also, what do people think of abductions. I believe in them, but it's kind of a grey area for me. Simply because there seems to be a lot of conflicting views on the subject when you watch documentaries on them. Some people seem to report a more peaceful and painless contact method. But there's also people who report this to be a painful and stressful experience. Also I'm not really sure what to make of the people who say they have been impregnated by an alien embryo... this to me sounds a bit untrue, but if I were given the evidence to say otherwise I would be willing to open my mind to it. I do however find the testing of humans to be more feasible possibility as they may wish to find out more about our race as a whole and see how our bodies and related systems operate. I have also watched many documentaries on ancient civilisations (this is why I referred to such earlier) which have evidence on either visitations or interactions with extraterrestrial races. There are also references in the Christian Bible regarding "balls of light" which I have interpreted to mean alien crafts, and one of the bible stories refers to someone being taken away in such (fundamental Christians would argue my theory on this is wrong). I have seen documentaries on this subject as well as about UFOs in civilizations such as the Egyptians, Mayans and many others. Many have instances of images in their art (like the aboriginal art that someone mentioned earlier... in fact I once met a person who had first hand seen this art, it is a protected Aboriginal sacred site, and the art cannot be viewed without permission from the aboriginal elders). And also many of these civilizations seemed to know a lot of things about the galaxy and solor system. My mum also once was given a URL to a website (she's trying to find it for me!) which was about an ancient manuscript that had been protected for years by some isolated Monks somewhere. The manuscript was written in a language that is unknown (it does not match any of the ancient languages we have discovered) and showed star charts and explanations of a galaxy that is unfamilliar. The theory behind it is that this manuscript is in fact alien in nature. I would love to find out more about this, so I need to bug my mum to find that URL again!!! Depthsofodd... I also saw that documentary that you refer to, well acutally I didn't see it all and are waiting for it to be repeated again. From what I remember the rays (or flashes) are said to have come from the area over Australia. Possibly even overhead of the Pine Gap installment. Boy, I didn't realize I had so much to say on this subject... I sure have been typing a lot! I feel I have so much more to say, but I'll wait to see if anyone responds first. All this new information is really exciting ... and I want to find out more. I have actually read through this topic a couple of times before even working out where to start in a response. :) Abe Babe... |
Most Documents from the original Incident that was covered up are being declassified. The U.S. Governent does not advertise that the freedom of information act released these documents. Nor do the people really hear about it. The information about it is out there you just have to do a lot of digging through too much information to find them. I still recommend the book though. It details technology that was uptained and much of what went on behind closed doors at Area 51 such as meetings arranged with the other life forms.
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Al, I might have to see if I can find that book over here in Australia. Did you know that the government actually released a lot of documents relating to Area 51 and similar some time back under the Freedom of Information act. But the majority of these documents had very large sections that were totally blacked out so that no one could read the full information.
Oh and one thing I forgot to mention on my last post is that an uncle of mine who is now an astronomer and scientist used to work for the military over here in Australia. A couple of years back we went to visit him for some stargazing through his telescope. My mum asked him what his view on UFOs was and told him about what she saw. He very quickly said that he didn't believe them possible and said that what my mum saw was a helium balloon with a candle attached (for reference, what my mum saw was three orange disks, one larger than the other two, travelling across the sky and they suddenly changed course and darted off into another direction). As anyone who took science in school would know is that a flame could not burn in helium. Being a scieintist this guy should have known this fact, so we think that he is covering up that he knows a lot about aliens. Because from what we know of his military career, he would have been in the right area to be privy to such information. Abe Babe... |
Those crop circles sometimes are fake but there are a lot of them that cant be explaned. I mean those designs are amazeing. I heard some scientists are discovering that some of the designes represent some sort of complex advance mathamatical expressions that no humen can ever come up with. Thats just amazes me. There are some designes that were made that none of any kind of math we know today can figure its demensions. It bogals the mind.
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Hmm, nobody out there who thinks that they have had any sort of contact? I sincerely doubt that! Or more realistically; anyone who is willing to come forward?
I'd like to see this topic kept alive for a decent amount of time, and already we've gotten some good response and input. That's marvellous! :fuzgrin: Okay let me see... I'll address Luxo first. Let me clarify myself; I wish to make it clear that 'shifting several hundred acres of land' is an ingenious way at leaving behind a clue. You see, that way those who are open to possibility can draw conclusions from it in their own way, and those who are flat out debunkers can be free to continue disbelieving. In this way, it is not a forced acceptance, and it is certainly not hard proof. Also, these aliens (which are involved) do not wish to hide themselves 'at all costs.' They simply want to gradually 'slip in' to our society and help out where they can. Imagine if say, 50 years ago, these beings just all of the sudden came out of the sky and announced themselves. I think I mentioned this another time, but this would be such an intense shock to the populace of Earth that it would have had dire consequences. Over the past 50 years, society's outlook upon extraterrestrials has changed dramatically. Nowadays, people are much more used to the possibility that they "may" exist. Kind of like they've been giving clues; a bump here and a nudge there, but never full on immediate proof. Now, regarding the whole "going public" thing. I entertain the possibility that this may have been the case with one of the alien races; however, there are many more than just one. In correspondance to your statement about the world war; I'm not quite sure what you mean. If indeed it is true that any sort of set contact date was postponed because of that time, then I ask you to put yourself in their position. When you see that humans have been calming down and you put in motion a plan to meet then, you hope all will go smoothly. However, when an event like 9/11 happens and attitudes change so drastically.. wouldn't that make you think twice? Another analogy would be this: Let's say that you decide to show up at a friend's house totally by surprise (for whatever reason.) But when you get there and before you knock on the door, you hear him and his wife yelling at each other. You decide the time is not right and decide to come back another time. However, you do not leave without leaving a note on his door announcing that you had come by, and suggesting that he'd better get things straight with his wife; all for his best interests. I find it interesting that when I said, "ourselves," you added "...or other people." I see "ourselves" as a single race; a family if I may so say. So "ourselves" was referring to indeed exactly what it was implying. Our race. Now to Jacob. I am completely convinced that what I caught on tape was not extraterrestrial in origin. (Yes, I said not.) That does not mean, however, that I don't think it was built using extraterrestrial technology. I feel that is a very good possibility. By the way, I appreciate your warning, but that's not going to scare me off. Kristen, Regarding the White Cliffs sightings, I am not sure what exactly those were. In fact I had forgotten about those things we saw over White Cliffs until you just mentioned them again. I don't remember what shape they were... all I remember is that they were bright white streaks of light across the sky. And for God's sake, White Cliffs is just a tiny mining town and is was out in the middle of nowhere in the Outback... I do remember feeling terribly uncomfortable after we saw them and wanted to go back into the underground hotel... which is strange for me because usually if I see something like that I want to know more about it... not run away from it....?? Perhaps if I was conciously operating instead of subconciously, I could ask them which things I've seen in my life were their craft and which were not. But the shame of it is, for the time being, I cannot remember my interactions with them until well after it has happened. (Or even wholly.) Agreed. They do have alien technology. I state this so 'matter-of-factly' only because I've had the kinds of experiences in my life to lead me to believe so. I was a half-believer/half skeptic for a long time... I do not wish to make a stab at anyone's intelligence here, and I certainly do not wish to insult anyone; so please remember that all of you who are reading this. Lately here in the US there has been a mass innundation on TV and the media in general regarding Aliens and UFOs and such. I don't take any specific meaning from that, but I do entertain the possibility that the government is in the stages of 'fessing up about all of this. I only do so because events, facts, and information point to such, as well as all else I have addressed. When I took the test it sort of pieced together things that occur all the time in my life that I had not put together before... my results indicated that 21% of all the people who had taken the test had reported experiences similar to mine... but I think I already mentioned that. Whether your contact is painful, or whether it is painless and pleasant is completely up to you. It is all VOLUNTARY... but the thing is that most people who admit contact don't even know that they've volunteered for it. It's incredibly hard to explain... so i won't here. If anyone wishes to know more I will be more than happy to discuss it on a personal basis (ie PM or email). But more importantly I said before that there are numerous alien races. Depending upon what your intentions are, you either get in contact with the "service-to other" beings, or the "service-to-self" beings. It is everyone's right to meet these aliens. Kristen, I believe that the language which you speak of regarding the scrolls might either be one of the Alien races' languages, or the Star-language. I'm not up on either of those, but they are just possibilities. Ah... yes Al. There is a website that has text versions of ALL the documents which have been released by the government... I can't remember the URL but I think it was something like www.black --whatever.com. I'll look it up and report back. Paramiteabe, I agree that Crop Circles can be easily faked. However, the circles out there (which are in the hundreds) which are the ones that cannot be explained are often the most incredibly intricate. I appreciate that. |
there was 2 crop circles, one in akansas and another in wyoming but they both were almost the same and they were too complex to do by a human!
there was a crop circle in norfolk, england that was an opptical illusion but they were not sure if it was faked though!!!! |
i believe in aliens...wounder if they believe in us??......
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Pilot, PM me with some of that contact stuff, please. |
of course i believe in aliens.. they are out there
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*Sigh* My dad has just informed my that my Rowswell worker friend has died, apparently it was a few days ago and my dad just never told me. He was a nice man but I didn't know him to well (although I still am sad). Oh, well I guess I should just move on.
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This race is supposedly concerned enough to make the effort to prevent war. Why, then, would an 'advanced' species miss the single best oportunity to divert nuclear disaster and POSTPONE their first contact? Carrying on your friend/wife analogy I'll offer this possibility: knowing that their argument might end in violence, I still leave the note and walk away. In the situation you proposed, the motivations to approach the friend are entirely different to those altruistic goals of the aliens. Unless they're just damned lazy, why would these ETs just throw up their arms and leave at the BEST POSSIBLE MOMENT? |
from what i've heard, the "grays" are not very nice guys, giving people diseases, taking out someones spinal coloumn.
when i get older i'm gonna start hunting these guys, and i'm gonna make sure they know that earth is NOT the right place to invade. |
Ferill, stop being such a f*cking moron and trying to act cool cos its;
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you stop being a f*cking moron just dont post if you cant say any thing that that makes a persin sad stop going to thare post and saying there a moron that is rude and it makes them come bake at you like me im not leting peopile call me names any more
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Oh geez, ok guys lets not get out of hand and Jacob I know that you can really insult lindsey easily with some of her...atributes but please refrain from doing so.
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im p*** off whth him
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Oh come on this is not the place to fight, Mastecheif has now calmed down with you and DI and now it starts up again!!!!!!!!
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It's funny how Jacob can always change the topic of a thread so damn fast.
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it is isnt it!
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It's interesting to note that there was a surge of films about aliens and martians in the 1940's, then soon after one of the alien's ships crashed in Nevada (faulty craftmanship?). Over the following years reports of alien abductions were plentiful, descriptions of the abductors matched the beings depicted in science fiction films. It certainly seems unlikely that aliens are appearing in films as a result of real aliens attempting to desensitize us to their presence, but rather people have hijacked the idea of extraterrestrials visiting us because it appeals to their sense of fantasy.
These are tales of an Intergalactic Congress coming from someone with an obvious science fiction fixation. The story seems unlikely, especially considering this person once believed he was guided by Mudokon spirits, regularly makes contact with the deceased, has experienced countless UFO sightings and alludes to having been abducted by aliens. It's a fantasy. |
aliens definitly are out there
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Put two creatures on the moon. A male and female they have a baby it's a ALIEN! It grew up on a diffrent planet!
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http://www.dreamerwww.com/posters1/poster1.gif ...though Pilot's story is yet to incorporate gratuitous partial nudity. Also, there is nothing about that poster I don't like; from the screaming wench to the communist overtones, it's all good. |
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the the french are alien to the british, the americans are alien to the russians and so on! |
I read a book abut aleans I whas rily weard so ........
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-Al the Vykker On another note who watched "Taken" on scifi it was really good it lasted two weeks. go to http://taken.scifi.com/index_flash.html I taped the episodes. It had an overall story but was based on newer evidence from the Roswell crash. Hopefully they will release it on DVD or VHS for anyone who missed it. I still recommend though anyone who either believes in UFOs/Aliens, or is a skeptic. To buy The Day after Roswell. It is the most credible book written to support all of that information to be true about aliens and UFOs. |
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Taken was good.but long it took like a week to be over!
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Yeah, though Im not being mean it was two weeks long. I know you probably knew that just reminding you, or you may have just mixed it up. But I agree with you 100% very long but really good. I thought it was the best type of Alien/UFO movie/tv miniseries in a long time. It wasnt cheesy, or any of that weird stuff that could never be true. I was just usually waiting and wondoring what was going to happen next.
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