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Nate 02-13-2014 04:00 PM

I was offered a job at the beginning of last year, to start in the second half of 2013. Then, due to a combination of miscommunication, bureaucracy, and incompetence, it fell through in October (although they didn't tell me it had fallen through until January, which is another symptom of the incompetence). So the annoying thing is that I would have been jobhunting all through last year if I'd known this was going to happen, and wouldn't have needed to be unemployed right now.

Also, I almost have a fucking PhD! It shouldn't be so difficult to get a job. I've sent off shitloads of applications, got interviews with a grand total of two companies, both of which said that they were going with other candidates and went radio silent when I asked for feedback. I had a preliminary interview for another job on Tuesday, but haven't heard back from them yet. Not really expecting much there, as I don't think I'm really qualified for that one.

STM 02-13-2014 09:33 PM

I'd just like to point out that I'm definitely not a bootstrapper, I could count my personal successes on my two hands. That doesn't mean I don't have the inclination to make something of myself, though.

Slog Bait 02-13-2014 10:22 PM

I think you completely misread the part of the "definition" that stated that a bootstrapper is someone who believes personal successes were entirely of their own volition and had no outside influence

From what you've stated up to now in the thread, it was implied that was your pov

Job McYossie 02-13-2014 10:31 PM

I've had one job, and I need to start looking again. I worked at KFC for a year, and after getting tired of dealing with the jerks that are the patrons of fast food, I decided to put in my 2 week notice and then vow to never go into fast food again. I probably just doomed myself to being unemployed for a while, and after reading some of this thread, it definitely looks like I wont have an easy time finding work.

Slog Bait 02-13-2014 10:38 PM

I'm sure there's a joke somewhere around here about Job McYossie being JOB-less, but I do not have the magic ability to make a pun out of anything like Manco so I can not make said joke

OddjobAbe 02-14-2014 01:14 AM

Job McLossie.

The process of finding a job is grueling, and, to put it eloquently, shit. I have full sympathy, and this is one of the other many reasons I get angry at the Government (UK) for using poor people who need benefits and using foreigners as scapegoats. It's very difficult to live to begin with if you're not rich, but when you're jobless and still being taxed left, right and centre, it's borderline impossible.

Manco 02-14-2014 04:12 AM

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I do not have the magic ability to make a pun out of anything like Manco so I can not make said joke

not with that attitude

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I worked at KFC for a year, and after getting tired of dealing with the jerks that are the patrons of fast food

something something jerk chicken

Job McYossie 02-14-2014 06:36 AM

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Job McLossie.

The process of finding a job is grueling, and, to put it eloquently, shit. I have full sympathy, and this is one of the other many reasons I get angry at the Government (UK) for using poor people who need benefits and using foreigners as scapegoats. It's very difficult to live to begin with if you're not rich, but when you're jobless and still being taxed left, right and centre, it's borderline impossible.

We don't get much education in foreign governments over here in the U.S., so I can't really fairly compare the two governments. But I can say that the shit employers do is terrible.

And by the way, with the whole pun thing, it's pronounced "Jobe", but the pun still works and is humours.

Slog Bait 02-14-2014 06:50 AM

Because of the taxes in the US and the absurd amount we have to pay for health insurance, my family lives in diamond encrusted poverty.

Then one day we realized they weren't actually diamonds, they were just tiny shards of glass this whole time.

The damn health insurance doesn't even cover what we need to remain healthy and stable. Some bullshit right here.

STM 02-14-2014 08:39 AM

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Job McLossie.

The process of finding a job is grueling, and, to put it eloquently, shit. I have full sympathy, and this is one of the other many reasons I get angry at the Government (UK) for using poor people who need benefits and using foreigners as scapegoats. It's very difficult to live to begin with if you're not rich, but when you're jobless and still being taxed left, right and centre, it's borderline impossible.

Don't forget the whole, 'benefits seekers should have to work for there JSA'. The gov were suggesting you work like, 9-5 five days a week doing litter picking and stuff so you could get your £60 a week, which would put it so far below the minimum wage it probably breaks human rights conventions. Oh and it takes away jobs from people already working for the councils that do such work for a living. So unemployment goes up. The country's economists are seriously incompetent fucks.

Vyrien 02-14-2014 08:53 AM

Anarchy say I. ANARCHY.

Officials elected to represent the will of the people have turned into a separate class of politicians that we get to pick and choose between, all of which are as bad as each other and many of whom come from wealthy backgrounds. They've never had to live the commoner's life so they don't have a clue what they're talking about. It's a disgrace.

Slog Bait 02-14-2014 09:09 AM

Seems to be a reoccurring thing world wide.

Nate 02-14-2014 04:13 PM

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Because of the taxes in the US and the absurd amount we have to pay for health insurance, my family lives in diamond encrusted poverty.

Bwahahahahahahaha...

You do know that taxes in the US are lower than almost all the countries in the industrialised world? I always find it funny when I hear Americans complain about how high their taxes are. Why don't you come here and try to pay Australian taxes, with an Australian cost-of-living?


Of course, then you'd get healthcare taken care of for you. Not gonna criticise you for complaining about how expensive that is in the US. That shit is crazy.

Slog Bait 02-14-2014 04:38 PM

No, I already know that's a thing. On one hand, I'm thankful for that... but I also know our minimum wage is WAY lower than it needs to be, and when my parents moved our cost of living increased by quite a lot, on TOP of the absurd amount we have to pay for health insurance that doesn't even cover our medical needs.

The financial class I'm situated in has to pay the highest taxes out of all the classes over here. I have no idea where that stands vs the rest of the world, but I have to say, it's very strange wondering whether or not we're going to have food to last until either of my parents' next paychecks.

Also it stresses me out so much that I'm still so heavily reliant on them financially. A lot of my commission money ends up going to helping them pay bills so we keep the damn roof over our heads.

Job McYossie 02-14-2014 05:20 PM

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but I have to say, it's very strange wondering whether or not we're going to have food to last until either of my parents' next paychecks.

I knew that feel. It sucks being below the poverty line and still having to pay for Type 1 Diabetes supplies. Healthcare is too expensive. I wouldn't mind higher taxes, if we had more amenities provided. And maybe less military, but that's a discussion bomb for another day.

Varrok 02-15-2014 12:23 AM

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Bwahahahahahahaha...

You do know that taxes in the US are lower than almost all the countries in the industrialised world? I always find it funny when I hear Americans complain about how high their taxes are. Why don't you come here and try to pay Australian taxes, with an Australian cost-of-living?

Hooray, we're 37th! Suck on that, America!

Our healthcare barely works.

STM 02-15-2014 11:07 AM

Yay Britain. We may have very high taxes but if Imangle my leg in a car accident, I'm not gonna have to pay £240,000 up front to get it fixed.

OddjobAbe 02-15-2014 03:16 PM

Not yet, anyway.

STM 02-15-2014 03:30 PM

Give it another few Conservative governments and we'll see.

MA 02-19-2014 09:58 AM

"kids, don't you dare break those legs! too fucking expensive!"

Nate 02-19-2014 04:22 PM

So, I had an initial interview with a company in Boston that went really well. But they told me yesterday that they're not going to proceed with me because they can't afford to fly me there for an in-person interview. None of the other companies I've interviewed with in the States have even suggested in-person interviews! With them, they were happy to deal with Skype to make a decision.

Le sigh.

Dixanadu 02-24-2014 10:07 PM

Having been turned down an interview due to being overqualified seems to be a thing going nowadays.

I know a girl who has two A-levels and she's finding it impossible to get into a call center field.

gishygleb 02-24-2014 10:16 PM

Is there so much fuss? I am overwhelmed with contracts from foreign countries (however, none are accepted). It seemed to me, that people were haunted by companies since their school years, if they had had achievements.

Is the unemployment really severe in your countries??

Slog Bait 02-24-2014 10:22 PM

Yes.

Job McYossie 02-24-2014 10:27 PM

Yeah, it's bad. And what's this I'm hearing about not accepting overqualified? That seems like an incredibly bad idea. For every party involved.

Phylum 02-24-2014 10:50 PM

If you have a university degree and you apply for a job as a check-out chick, people are smart enough to work out that it's not something that you want to do and that you'll probably be actively looking for better work the entire time you're there.

Job McYossie 02-24-2014 10:54 PM

That is a side I never thought of. Still seems ridiculous that people with degrees can't get jobs.

Slog Bait 02-24-2014 10:57 PM

One of the few reasons I'm glad the education and loan systems screwed me over so bad preventing me from furthering my degree

Still can't find a damn job though

Phylum 02-24-2014 11:43 PM

See my desire to acquire a music degree is actually really smart, because I'll be just as unemployable once I get one.

STM 02-24-2014 11:59 PM

You better hope not or you're sucking money out of your pocket for nothing. Unless university really is the best 3 years of your life like it's supposed to be (and of course I sincerely hope you enjoy it).

Dixanadu 02-25-2014 12:34 AM

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Yeah, it's bad. And what's this I'm hearing about not accepting overqualified? That seems like an incredibly bad idea. For every party involved.

What Phylum said. I also think that the average working class turns their nose down at anyone with at least one high-standard degree.

Phylum 02-25-2014 12:58 AM

HEY STM I MADE A JOKE ABOUT MUSICIANS

Nate 02-25-2014 01:47 AM

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If you have a university degree and you apply for a job as a check-out chick, people are smart enough to work out that it's not something that you want to do and that you'll probably be actively looking for better work the entire time you're there.

This reminds me a conversation I had with my dad recently.

Dad: "You know, you should be applying for some sort of retail job just to get yourself by until you get a real job."
Me: "Yeah, I know. But it's not easy to get a job anywhere that they know you're not going to be there long-term."
Dad: "So? Tell them you'll be there long-term."
Me: "They'll see it on my resume that I have higher ambitions."
Dad: "Change your resume, then."
Me: "And what do I put in there for the last four and a half years?"
Dad: "I don't know... Make something up!"
Me: "Weren't you telling me last week how easy it is to tell when someone is lying on their resume?"
Dad: "Yes, but you won't be detected."
Me: "Why?"
Dad: "Because you're smarter than the people applying to work for me."*
Then the conversation went around in circles for several minutes as I objected to lying on my resume on general principles and dad told me to do it anyway.




* Dad is a lawyer and he's been trying to hire a new lawyer for his firm. Apparently the standard of young lawyers out there is rather poor.

STM 02-25-2014 11:12 AM

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HEY STM I MADE A JOKE ABOUT MUSICIANS

MUSICIANS ARE NO LAUGHING MATTER.

Jordan 02-25-2014 04:34 PM

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This reminds me a conversation I had with my dad recently.

Dad: "You know, you should be applying for some sort of retail job just to get yourself by until you get a real job."
Me: "Yeah, I know. But it's not easy to get a job anywhere that they know you're not going to be there long-term."
Dad: "So? Tell them you'll be there long-term."
Me: "They'll see it on my resume that I have higher ambitions."
Dad: "Change your resume, then."
Me: "And what do I put in there for the last four and a half years?"
Dad: "I don't know... Make something up!"
Me: "Weren't you telling me last week how easy it is to tell when someone is lying on their resume?"
Dad: "Yes, but you won't be detected."
Me: "Why?"
Dad: "Because you're smarter than the people applying to work for me."*
Then the conversation went around in circles for several minutes as I objected to lying on my resume on general principles and dad told me to do it anyway.


* Dad is a lawyer and he's been trying to hire a new lawyer for his firm. Apparently the standard of young lawyers out there is rather poor.

I think it's time you whored yourself out Nate.

Nate 02-25-2014 04:46 PM

Are you hoping to be my first John, Jordan?

STM 02-25-2014 05:31 PM

It's not even like the Melbourne street corners are cold.

Dixanadu 02-26-2014 03:18 AM

I wouldn't go into the prostitution business. Aside from being at a high risk of contracting STDs, I hear the social lifestyle will make you sad.

Jordan 02-26-2014 05:21 AM

I wouldn't mind being a prostitute as long as they had big dicks

STM 02-26-2014 11:38 AM

I was offered a job as a male escort last year. I declined. Then I got a job at a warehouse and had a break down in November.

Haha life choices.