Too many K's close together. From a PR perspective, that's not a good name for a Kharity.

I only just started hearing about this crap, thankfully. I'm probably not well informed about it yet, but it seems hipster crap and people getting butthurt over stuff that's been going on for decades. Could someone give me a quick sum up of what's going on with this and why it shouldn't be supported so I can take part in this bitch fight? :D

Also I thought this was funny. Maybe not true, but still funny.
http://imgur.com/K3mgn

Edit: Moxco's video summed it up nicely.

Havoc... I do believe you should research both sides and not just take the more popular stance before joining the bitch fight. I don't mean anything bad with it, just saying :) It seems like you have anyway.

I couldn't watch the video through anyway... There was no introduction posted anywhere, and the video seemed very slow to get to the point. I may try to re-watch later.

When watching it though, I was super paranoid that they were trying to talk to my subconscious :p Sometimes Im just silly like that. But it seemed really suspicious for them to say "THis will only work if you pay attention the next 30 mins" or whatever they said. I dont appreciate people making demands like that <.<

Have a nice day!
/paranoid T-nex walks out of the thread.

I want to watch it so that I can feel comfortable criticizing it, but, fun as that could be, I'm not wasting 30 mins watching the video then countless hours telling my friends why they're stupid.

One of my friends posted this. I don't know the source, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was true.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...23916747_n.jpg

Can anyone verify the integrity of this?

Invisible Children makes their financial information publicly available. http://www.invisiblechildren.com.s3-...inancials.html

Okay, I just skipped through that very flash glitzy video and a couple of articles...


...so tell me if I'm reading this wrong, but basically are these guys trying to whip up some sort of public fervor with the goal of taking down some horrid African dictator?

I'm very unsure of this....

I dunno if this was already posted and I can't be bothered checking.

http://www.invisiblechildren.com.s3-...critiques.html

Also, he reminds me a hell of a lot of the eleventh Doctor, in both looks and the way he's running around saying that we can save the planet if we all think about doing it (or whatever it is).

Essentially, yes. But there are more horrid dictators, more dangerous people in positions of political power and much much much more efficient ways of bringing stability to the area. Joseph Kony is small potatoes compared to hundreds if not thousands of other monstrous individuals. The goal is to get all the slacktivists they can to bitch and and whine about something that they basically would not give a shit about otherwise so that they can pat each other on the back for a job well done when Kony is taken care of, which will only bring that much more instability to the area because he has a several thousand strong militia of child soldiers which will become a headless, guntoting, psychopathic little band of zealots fuelled by a bizarre pseudo ideaology. Invisible Children is basically a bogus charity powered by guilt and god fucking damn it that picture of those sons of bitches in the jungle holding weapons makes me want to cut them apart with a fork


tl;dr it's for reddit faggots to think they're helping when they're doing nothing of the sort

I didn't know American was race?

Also, using social media to do something other than post career ruining pictures of alcohol induced White Castle misuse is a good thing. I mean sure, a lot of people ranting on about this on FB right now are prob just pretending; but, like Occupy Wall Street, it started with good intentions and you shouldn't let the phonies ruin your opinion of it.

no, you didn't.

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attac...difference.jpg

Well they are noticeably different

you are a turd floating around in the shallow end of the pool of intelligence. only you can realize this.

I hate this argument. “There are bigger badder problems in the world!” is not a reason to ignore smaller issues. We are not a civilisation that can only focus on one goddamn problem at a time; we can support the arrest of Kony while also supporting the fixing of problems elsewhere.


Getting people to give a shit is not inherently a bad thing.


I doubt they would just slap handcuffs on Kony and say “welp screw all these child soldiers, they’ll get by just fine on their own!”


This is true, but your reasoning is fallacious.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...53307552_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...36810555_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...58388429_n.jpg

First person to get all three of them right gets rep.

My little Kony
Obi-Wan Konybi
Kony Montana

Meh, close enough. I liked Obi-Wan Kony better.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k.../konyperry.jpg
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k.../koniccopy.jpg
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...550373copy.jpg

Find those, get rep ^^

I must be succeeding in keeping my fingers off the pulse if this one slipped by me until now.

I'm not saying there are bigger and badder problems in the world, I'm saying that eliminating Kony is small potatoes and won't solve a damn thing in Uganda and East Africa. I'm saying that there are dozens of others like him (and many, MANY worse) and that the surest way to bring about peace would be to bring order through a non-corrupt government that isn't batshit insane. Start at the top and work downwards. Eliminating Kony is like a man getting rid of the problem of a boil on his finger by infecting it with a flesh eating virus.



Except you don't give a shit. If you did give a shit, you'd look into this beyond Invisible Children's sparkly video and sad sack manipulation and realize there are much, much more significant factors at play other than what is essentially just witch hunting a serial killer until we can all feel less tenuous white guilt.



Really, neither of us could know, but presuming that they'd go to the extent of in any way solving the Child Soldiering other than a complete, economically impossible reeducation of them or complete elimination of the army as a whole is naive. Once all of these whinging assholes get Kony taken down, pat themselves on the back and return to being cynical wastes of space all of these poor fucking bastards are going to fill the power vacuum and just keep on raping, pillaging and marauding.

Don't you call me fallacious, you little shit. Are you not a Reddit going faggot? Do you really think you're helping after wandering across Invisible Children and joining in with an impotent chorus of white college bums who could not begin to understand the meticulous foreign workings of Ugandan government any more than they understand our politics? (and no, I'm not claiming I do, but I've done a hell of a better job researching and caring about this than you have) Is Invisible Children not lying to our faces through their claimed intentions and easily researched financial history? It's a gigantic fucking useless buttpat and you should be ashamed to not have been smarter about your involvement in it.


I'm not trying to dissuade you from being involved at all, I'm just telling you that there are more than two sides to this and I want people on the one that involves taking some shit for Africa. Good on your for becoming interested, now start digging and don't stop until you've opened up a metaphorical, realistic escape hatch for blood diamond mining and other horrors.

Ever heard of the phrase, 'each to their own', Mac?

I'm not trying to curry your anger or start a debate with you, but have you actually read Jacob Acaye's opinion on this? Y'know, the kid who watched his little brother get murdered?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...hild-kony-2012

Here. Try not to go on a rampage at OH for fostering such sentiments.

No, in my country it goes 'To each their own' and usually it's from fence-sitting little agnostics getting drilled by resolute Atheists and Theists on why they can't make up their damn minds on their own.

You are currying my anger by throwing Jacob's fucking story at me again, you manipulated little turd. I get it. It's horrible. It's beyond words, but there are more legitimate ways to help than through Invisible Children, moreover you're doing more harm than good by helping IC since the money and attention you give them does not trickle down to help the displaced and victimised whatsoever.

And OH deserves everything he gets when he acts like a pedantic fucknut, and if I may be so bold, is fully capable of speaking for himself, clearly.

Yes, setting up a better government system would certainly be more beneficial for Uganda and Africa, I don’t disagree. This doesn’t disqualify people from wanting Kony arrested and stopping the LRA. We can, in fact, focus on both of these tasks non-exclusively.


I think you have little or no solid evidence of this actually happening, and I’m of the opinion that a charity dedicated to raising awareness of the atrocious treatment of these children wouldn’t just up and abandon them all because one guy got brought down. That isn’t to say it couldn’t happen, and I certainly think we should be scrutinizing what happens down the line to ensure it doesn’t.


Oh by the way, I don’t visit Reddit, I don’t like Invisible Children’s methods or approach, and I certainly have been doing a bit of digging. I’ve read and agree with most of the points raised in this thread and in the articles linked. So please, don’t shit down my neck for daring to disagree with your points.

Good, but don't climb up my ass for taking issue with the rampant slacktivism surrounding this and jumping around because, sure enough Reddit and thousands of little shitsters like it are at the center of things muddling it up.

Why bring religion and irreligion into this? I'm quite happy being an agnostic because rather than being a hard-line atheist/ religious bastard, I can mediate between the best of both. So if that's a shot at me for whatever reason, back the fuck off. And you obviously didn't read the article because Jacob says that media attention in whatever form highlights the problem, it's not gone away, it's moved, out of the scope of IC, and global condemnation could be just the beginning.

In future, refrain from insulting me for making a point, or I won't be so polite, rather I'll reply in kind. Because trust me I can shout louder than you.

E: Though I'd rather not shout at all =P.

Wow wow, when did this happen?

Just a heads up, I don't think it's correct to call yourself 'An agnostic'. It implies an organization or group identity.

stop trying to act like the big dog. it's embarrassing.

You do realise that there have been previous attempts to kill or capture Kony, each resulting in many deaths, especially of said child soldiers who Invisible Children hopes to liberate. Though as their relatives weren't shown sobbing in a video that aims to provoke emotions, their lives probably matter little. Invading Uganda, or indeed funding a military that is known to rape and steal, would more likely than not only create a more detrimental situation.

It's DAWG.

I thought this was pretty clever.

Me too. Thought about doing that but I couldn't be arsed to find the original image.

http://www.tineye.com/search/871ad42...29645869662b1/

(link expires 72 hours from posting time. For anyone after that, simply copy the image URL in to tineye)

I'm bored. I'll do that.

Linkage!!

I actually did it on the Doublefine forums, and it started a whole "thing" that I almost got banned over.

Is the thread still there?

Yeah. It's called "Personal Heroes".

Hee what an asstard.

Yeah. He consistently sucks.

Oh, and the only reason he became calm and conciliatory after that is because he had reported me to the mods.