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Mudokon_Master 05-08-2011 09:53 PM

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That could of been a better smily, I not doing it unless I have enthusiasm!
I not able to do it anyway.

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Xavier 05-08-2011 11:24 PM

You guys don't seem to have a clue, what SligStorm was supposed to be about...

What the hell is up with blowing everything up and having only 12h to live?
This Slig just wants to escape to be free of all harassment due to him being an albino.

enchilado 05-09-2011 07:08 AM

But then he comes back for revenge in SLIGSTORM II: TODDAL ANNIHILATION

RoryF 05-09-2011 07:23 AM

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You guys don't seem to have a clue, what SligStorm was supposed to be about...

What the hell is up with blowing everything up and having only 12h to live?
This Slig just wants to escape to be free of all harassment due to him being an albino.

The part about the time limit to live was to increase the adrenaline for blowing stuff up...
...and maybe the fact we were joking...

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But then he comes back for revenge in SLIGSTORM II: TODDAL ANNIHILATION

SLIGSTORM III: ABSOLUTTE DEMOLITIONN

STM 05-09-2011 08:03 AM

SLIGSTORM IV: Listen to uncle STM and shut the fuck up!

Why does everyone wanna blow shit up in Oddworld? Buy a fire work for goodness sake.

RoryF 05-09-2011 08:09 AM

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SLIGSTORM IV: Listen to uncle STM and shut the fuck up!

Why does everyone wanna blow shit up in Oddworld? Buy a fire work for goodness sake.

You ruined it! The episode title is supposed to be in all CAPS!!

Also, we like blowing stuff up on oddworld because we can, it's fictional! :p

enchilado 05-09-2011 08:30 AM

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You ruined it! The episode title is supposed to be in all CAPS!!

Actually you ruined it first by 1) creating it in the first place by attempting to repeat a joke that wasn't funny the first time and 2) not including the word "odd" and 3) creating it in the first place by attempting to repeat a joke that wasn't funny the first time. Technically 1) and 3) are the same point, but I figured it was such an important one it was worth mentioning twice.

RoryF 05-09-2011 08:52 AM

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I'd rather be a crazy slig with mental problems, who also has only 12 hours left to destroy everything and create as much chaos within the Magog Cartel as possible. That's what I think SligStorm should be, but that's just me. It's a perfect plot for total Oddworld destruction.

This wasn't a joke, it was what I thought. That's why I put that's what it should be, I was thinking it would be a good idea...

Xavier 05-09-2011 10:46 AM

Ugh, guys... cut the pointless spam please

RoryF 05-09-2011 11:46 AM

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We haven’t decided whether to make Abe’s Oddysee, Abe’s Exoddus, something new, or a combination of the above.

I just read this now and I reckon a combination is a brilliant idea. Since the two are direct follow ups to each other, I think it would flow nicely. Like a second part for those who finish the original game.
They'd have to change the cutscenes a bit if they do that though. I mean, it wouldn't make much sense for Abe to say "I just saved 99 mudokons from RuptureFarms", when the player may have only saved 40. I would recommend completely removing that phrase to make it easier though, it would be too much work to change what Abe says every time depending on how many saved.
It would be cool if they did it, but seems unlikely.

MrGothmog666 05-09-2011 05:39 PM

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Fucking christ, He wasn't asserting anything, and you baisically mocked him for making a joke and throwing an idea out there.

There you go, asserting that it was a joke when it was really a stupid assumption. Indirect assertion is still assertion, and he was certainly indirectly asserting that a 3D Abe game would have no secret areas. Did he play fucking Munch's Oddysee? If he had, he'd know about the secret area at Splinterz.
Also you're misusing the term "mocked". I didn't mock anyone, I just proved his indirect assertion false. And if it was a joke, it was an INCREDIBLY lame one.
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Actually, mindless violence games usually do the best. Take a look at Halo Reach - Sacrificing decent storylines for mindless gore and better graphics.

Jesus, do you even think about what you're saying before you say it?
Oddworld ain't no mainstream piece of shit bro

Steamer_KING 05-09-2011 06:08 PM

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Exactly, feedback is the key. So if they make all games at the same time, and release them at the same time, they cannot add the feedback in the other games before release. Not that they would release all at the same time. But they are already working on more projects at once. To me that seems that the focus is not entirely on one game as it actually should have been. I see those things happen at where I work (totally unrelated, but the principle is the same), that they have to split their focus on several projects, and loose the full potention of the single project that could have been much better if they had given attention seperately. Now all they do is put more attention to those already release projects because they were not good enough, so that is a total waste of funds, resources and image to the customer!

Therefor they should focus more on the release of SW before doing the other stuff :)

I completely agree with this. I think they should just focus ONLY on SW, then MO, then ABE HD, and so on. They're trying to get too much things at hand, and that's why OWI just didn't get to function 100%, because Lorne just got tons of ideas, like the Oddworld Movie, Citizen Siege, the Quintology aka Pentology and so on. I like the ideas from Lorne, but please, finish one until the other. That said, I think, they're making a fine job.

Gwan-Thwei 05-09-2011 06:14 PM

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There you go, asserting that it was a joke when it was really a stupid assumption. Indirect assertion is still assertion, and he was certainly indirectly asserting that a 3D Abe game would have no secret areas. Did he play fucking Munch's Oddysee? If he had, he'd know about the secret area at Splinterz.

I wasn't asserting anything, and he wasn't assuming anything. Throwing an idea out there does not automatically make them a complete retard, you twat. And what if he hasn't played Munch, does that mean he's a retard for not knowing that it has secret areas too?
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Also you're misusing the term "mocked". I didn't mock anyone, I just proved his indirect assertion false. And if it was a joke, it was an INCREDIBLY lame one.

No, I'm not, you pompous waste of air. You didn't prove anything, except that you're an arrogant cunt-face.
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Oddworld ain't no mainstream piece of shit bro

That had nothing to do with what I said whatsoever. I know it's not mainstream, but anyone who's played it loves it because it has a great storyline. REACH, for example, has shit for story and has good multiplayer, so that makes it better in everyone's eyes. Everyone has played REACH, but almost no one has played Oddworld.

On topic: Bringing back sligstorm would be nice. It sounds fun, and it looks like it's have a reasonable plot.

RoryF 05-09-2011 09:46 PM

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On topic: Bringing back sligstorm would be nice. It sounds fun, and it looks like it's have a reasonable plot.

With SligStorm, are you on about the actual plot or my one that I thought the game would be good as?

Also, I've played Munch's Oddysee, but it was ages ago that I did. There might have been a secret area. My point was (AO/AE BTW), this version they're making is the original game, so it will have all the original secrets. You can't make some of the 2D secrets 3D without making them obvious. That would defeat the point.

If you don't get it, take a look at RuptureFarms, the the secrets behind the barrels, if it were 3D, you'd be able to see a gap there.

Another point is, a lot of people liked the original game being as it was, 2D. What they're doing now is technically the same thing since the background graphics in AO and AE were 3D, just put in a 2D view. With newer consoles and PCs, the power is much less limited, and can handle semi-"true 3D".

Also, did anyone else agree with the combination idea? I thought that was great.

enchilado 05-09-2011 09:53 PM

I don't think it's a good idea at all. The games' stories work very well with them as separate games, and I think it would suck to mash them together.

RoryF 05-09-2011 09:58 PM

The only problem I would've had if they were combined was the fact you'd be doing the scrabs and paramites twice, it might be a bit boring. Two seperate games maybe good...

Manco 05-09-2011 11:05 PM

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I completely agree with this. I think they should just focus ONLY on SW, then MO, then ABE HD, and so on. They're trying to get too much things at hand, and that's why OWI just didn't get to function 100%, because Lorne just got tons of ideas, like the Oddworld Movie, Citizen Siege, the Quintology aka Pentology and so on. I like the ideas from Lorne, but please, finish one until the other. That said, I think, they're making a fine job.

SW and MO are just HD remasterings - not exactly the most labour-intensive projects. I'm sure they can handle multitasking in this case.

Glitch 05-10-2011 12:34 AM

I like the idea of remaking the original with minimal changes and leaving the new stuff for new developments.

Oddysee and Exoddus just wouldn't work in full 3D :(

Gwan-Thwei 05-10-2011 04:42 PM

This comment will seem off topic, but hopefully it'll fit in somewhere.
In the game SPORE, my favorite level is playing as an animal. Killing and running around is really fun to me. As soon as everything is dead or befriended, I deletd the planet because I don't like doing anything else with them.
To me, having a game from the point of view of a Scrab or Paramite would be cool, because I enjoy that sort of thing. Ooh, maybe they could make a game about a Meech who has to find and rescue other meeches...That would be sweet!

Crashpunk 05-11-2011 01:35 AM

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Of course in Sligstorm you would have played a slig grub, so you wouldn't have actually had a gun.

I think you'll find a Pants machine.

Wil 05-11-2011 02:19 AM

Pants for a grub? Hmm. Shorts!

Kinto 05-11-2011 04:06 PM

haha, AO and AE just wouldn't work to well in full 3D in my opinion. I mean getting killed in one shot, how would that work? try to circle around a slig without getting shot? Also the flickering bombs would kind of be pointless. idk, just don't think it would work.

Mikaeel 05-11-2011 05:06 PM

2D in my opinion is way better. These are the games I grew up with, and I want them to stay that way.

I'm pretty sure JAW won't change that much with the update, at least I hope. I'm just ready for them to release some screens for it so we can compare them.

I can't wait!

RoryF 05-11-2011 09:35 PM

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haha, AO and AE just wouldn't work to well in full 3D in my opinion. I mean getting killed in one shot, how would that work? try to circle around a slig without getting shot? Also the flickering bombs would kind of be pointless. idk, just don't think it would work.

Thank you.
At least someone gets the point of why it shouldn't be full 3D.
A lot of stuff in the original would have to be changed. I don't like that idea since it's a remake. They're not going to change everything around to make it 3D because then it's not really a true remake.

It must be 2D or 2.5D!

Manco 05-12-2011 01:35 AM

I hope you guys are aware that it's already been confirmed as 2.5D. Bickering about 3D is pointless.

RoryF 05-12-2011 08:29 AM

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I hope you guys are aware that it's already been confirmed as 2.5D. Bickering about 3D is pointless.

I know, I'm just saying that if it was 3D, it wouldn't work.

1PlayerD 05-13-2011 01:18 PM

If OddWorld stays 2D, maybe with a few 3D games, I would be happy.
If only they would make the games like back when they did the first OddWorld in those kind of graphics, but obviously it wouldn't make many sales with how picky gamers today are on graphics.

STM 05-15-2011 08:11 AM

Who gives a fuck about the dimensions of the game any way. What happened to speculation about game story line and shit, that's at least half way more interesting than pissing about the axis of a camera.

Crashpunk 05-15-2011 01:34 PM

y'see when you say grub, i just think of the Crawing Slig :tard:

MrGothmog666 05-17-2011 03:51 PM

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Also, I've played Munch's Oddysee, but it was ages ago that I did. There might have been a secret area. My point was (AO/AE BTW), this version they're making is the original game, so it will have all the original secrets. You can't make some of the 2D secrets 3D without making them obvious. That would defeat the point.

If you don't get it, take a look at RuptureFarms, the the secrets behind the barrels, if it were 3D, you'd be able to see a gap there.

I perfectly get what you're implying which is why I previously pointed out that a 3D version of AO wouldn't just be copypasta of the original game, and it is something I personally want them to release rather than the current HD project. There's a reason why I put "wishful thinking" in the thread title.
Also anything about it "not working" with 3D is bollocks, look at the Munch's Oddysee pre-rendered vids than imaging a game in that style with AO's story.

RoryF 05-21-2011 01:20 PM

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I perfectly get what you're implying which is why I previously pointed out that a 3D version of AO wouldn't just be copypasta of the original game, and it is something I personally want them to release rather than the current HD project. There's a reason why I put "wishful thinking" in the thread title.
Also anything about it "not working" with 3D is bollocks, look at the Munch's Oddysee pre-rendered vids than imaging a game in that style with AO's story.

You know what a remastering is right? Editing the game to make it 3D is not a remastering. Also, MO was always going to be 3D, so they focused on ways to make it work, AO would have to be changed quite a lot and people prefer the 2D of it.
No more arguments about 2D and 3D from now on, there's no point anyway as it's already announced 2.5D. Plus, I've already made my point. :p

Gwan-Thwei 05-21-2011 01:53 PM

An oddworld movie would be nice. I'd prefer SW, of course, but really all of the games sound like they would be great, provided they stick to the game.

RoryF 05-22-2011 04:44 AM

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An oddworld movie would be nice. I'd prefer SW, of course, but really all of the games sound like they would be great, provided they stick to the game.

SW would make a great movie. :D Still, I'd prefer some of the games they're making first though...

Hulaabeo 05-23-2011 04:42 PM

I personally would like to see some Oddworld Merchandise after they've released all those games, or after Hand of Odd. (Which ever comes first.)

RoryF 05-25-2011 10:10 PM

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I personally would like to see some Oddworld Merchandise after they've released all those games, or after Hand of Odd. (Which ever comes first.)

I'd love a little Abe figure, or Alf. They could do an Alf sitting on the chair with the light and book. That would be so cool. :D

Gwan-Thwei 05-26-2011 09:18 AM

I thought I saw a Stranger Action Figure somewhere, but maybe that was fan made. Was still good though.

Hulaabeo 06-05-2011 07:43 AM

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I thought I saw a Stranger Action Figure somewhere, but maybe that was fan made. Was still good though.

I think you might be talking about a couple of figurines. Yeah, there are a few pics on TOGG.

I hope they remake those SW Trading Cards. I always wanted to get my hands on those...

Gwan-Thwei 06-05-2011 09:12 AM

I learned all the types out outlaws from pictures of those. Ah, good times.

I also want to see a few plushies. I know I can make some myself, but i would like to see more professionally made ones.

Crashpunk 06-05-2011 12:59 PM

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I thought I saw a Stranger Action Figure somewhere, but maybe that was fan made. Was still good though.

Link maybe? I want to see.

Gwan-Thwei 06-05-2011 04:18 PM

I can't remember where I saw it, or else I would have.
>googles<
...nope, I got nothing.