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Sekto Springs 01-14-2010 07:37 PM

Still sounds to me like he was predisposed to highly leftist environments his whole life. Regardless of how many people in CA don't adhere to the stereotype, Lorne still does.

I don't disagree with Lorne's political views really, I'm just playing devil's advocate. He could be a real twat and I'd still love his work, as is the case of many of the creative folks I emulate.

Rayrockslots 01-14-2010 07:51 PM

Well I guess something is better then nothing, even if nobody knows what the hell is going on at least something is going on...I guess. I just hope we're not waiting for months for another update.

Is his hair going grey?

looney-bin 01-14-2010 10:28 PM

Gaaaabe! Buy OWI already. Lorne's finally lost it.

hidden 01-15-2010 05:24 AM

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It's described as a place where people who don't like each other can have it out, and end up becoming the greatest of friends. That's some stupid hippy shit that will never work on the internet.

While I have my doubts about it's sellability given the way people have reacted, I think on the odd chance it breeches the market it might work.** I went from being enemies with some girl 'cause she kept stealing my hat and lunch, to being best friends 'cause our rents made us have a sleepover or something to sort things out. I can't really remember that well being 7 at the time.

**Then again i was seven, I think children have different perspectives on forgiveness.

OANST 01-15-2010 06:02 AM

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'cause our rents made us have a sleepover or something to sort things out. .



My rents have to get paids.

Sekto Springs 01-15-2010 06:36 AM

I thought you owned your house Mat.

MeechMunchie 01-15-2010 10:52 AM

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As I understand it, Justin will try his damndest to stalk him and sedate him, dragging him along on Oddtour. If this happens, he and I could thoroughly probe him.

Oh dear, what has Pilot talked you into?

Also, to the points about gaming networks: Steam worked out fine.

Sekto Springs 01-15-2010 12:58 PM

Admittedly, the above scenario is far more likely.

Wil 01-16-2010 09:42 AM

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Except that he's also described it as a gaming platform.

Where has he?

OANST 01-16-2010 09:43 AM

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Where has he?

I was also wondering that, but figured that you guys had had enough of my smart ass comments in OD for a while.

Wil 01-16-2010 09:50 AM

No, people just started saying he was talking about basically a game with socially networky component. I checked everything he said in both videos and in answer to the question and found nothing. I also checked the trademarks from a while back, and while it mentions online gaming with user-generated content, it also talks about
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online social networking services, namely, facilitating social interaction among individuals, social introductions, and for finding persons with particular hobbies, interests and backgrounds

i.e. Facebook

MojoMan220 01-16-2010 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Lorne Lanning
My thesis is this: If enemies can attract and engage in fun together, they will grow closer. And on that basis, [I'm working on a project that will grab] a global base of users that are attracting for all the wrong reasons towards one another, contextualizing their angst in the real world and connecting it to the angst that they display in game experiences.
I guess it isn't clearly articulated, but I read this as incorporating a gaming aspect.

OANST 01-16-2010 10:24 AM

It seemed to me as if he was just referring to his past experiences in the field of video games, using it as an analogy. It doesn't sound like this is going to be a game to me.

MojoMan220 01-16-2010 10:27 AM

Honestly, I'm not sure as to whether he's saying that this platform will attract the abovementioned type of person (one who contextualizes their angst in the real world...), or if he's saying this is what the users of such a site will be doing, I.E. they'll be contextualizing their angst in the real world and connect it to the angst that they display in game experiences. I don't think it's a game, but I thought that the social network part might connect with game experiences somehow. Now I've confused myself.

Edit: Also he starts by mentioning a global base of users that do these things. Why not say people if he was speaking broadly?

OANST 01-16-2010 10:30 AM

Lorne's announcements have become increasingly vague as time goes by. I guess we'll know for sure when and if it launches.

IThoughtIHadAGoodJob 01-16-2010 12:06 PM

I'm glad I wasn't the only one with a total WTF reaction...
Not that it'll be bad, but it does seem a bit, well, "odd"... (sry, I had to.)
When I finally saw an update on Oddblog I was extremely excited, then extremely confused. Whatever Lorne's doing, he should stick to finishing at least one new thing first. At least a useful update, please! All I'd like is a simple acknowledgment from Lorne that he isn't just letting OW or CS sit in a mental basement collecting dust...

Sekto Springs 01-16-2010 01:19 PM

It does seem like Lorne is taking on more projects than he can handle.
I don't know how invested he is in each one, but I sincerely doubt he has the manpower or the resources to work on them simultaneously.

Hazz-JB 01-16-2010 04:12 PM

I've always had the impression that he's got some grand plan rather than a muddled bunch of ideas, but I guess it's a bit of both. Either way I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now. I hope the next Oddworld doesn't become the new Duke Nukem Forever though :(

Nate 01-16-2010 06:46 PM

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It does seem like Lorne is taking on more projects than he can handle.

Not really. As far as we know, he's not working on either CS or the Abe movie at all. That would be like suggesting that he's still working on Hand of Odd and Munch's Exoddus.
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Where has he?

I can't pinpoint an exact quote, but it's the impression I got from previous interviews where he expressed opinions on the future of gaming. I could be wrong.

Sekto Springs 01-16-2010 07:00 PM

So they're officially on hold then?
Good lord.

Taco 01-16-2010 11:35 PM

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I hope the next Oddworld doesn't become the new Duke Nukem Forever though :(

Or The Elder Scrolls V....
Well with this formation of OddMobb, at least we know that Lorne is up to something and must have some plans.

Wil 01-17-2010 01:07 AM

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So they're officially on hold then?
Good lord.

Yeah. Basically, Lorne doesn't want to go back to Oddworld yet, and he can't find a deal to produce CS that he's happy with. I have no idea what happened to the machinima series.

Josh 01-17-2010 01:33 AM

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Yeah. Basically, Lorne doesn't want to go back to Oddworld yet,

http://conjectura.files.wordpress.co...6/fuuuuuck.jpg

looney-bin 01-17-2010 01:51 AM

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Yeah. Basically, Lorne doesn't want to go back to Oddworld yet,

It's been at least 5 Goddamn years of twiddling thumbs and making almost diddly squat profit, yet Lorne feels the need to be a massive cock-tease to his fans by announcing yet another project that will be eventually left on the shelf? I know the Oddworld games are on Steam and PSN, but you'd think his company would have released something new after this amount of time rather than just re-releasing stuff without even slight improvements or extras. Hell, I would have just accepted slight sound tweeks if it ment that OWI wasn't on its last legs.

I've always like the Oddworld series and I like Lorne, but seriously? Everything now just feels like the dead parrot sketch from Monty Python.

Wil 01-17-2010 02:13 AM

OK. Fine. You fund Citizen Siege.

looney-bin 01-17-2010 03:14 AM

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OK. Fine. You fund Citizen Siege.

I wasn't saying I could do any better. I just think Lorne plans something, doesn't think things through properly, and ends up either having to scrap it altogether or put on the shelf ready to be forgotten. Duke Nukem Forever springs to mind here.

I'm certain Lorne can get funding for his projects, but it's nearly always been "creative differences" that mean they have to sit on the shelf time after time, and as a fan of his work, I'm sick of it. I know he wants creative control, but from the way he seems to drop deals with other companies, you'd think they stamped on his first born child. Look at Games Workshop. They have very strict regulations about how their franchises are controlled, yet you get stuff like Dawn of War, which was absolutely brilliant.

Josh 01-17-2010 03:19 AM

If Lorne wants money, he should make another Oddworld game. It's what everyone wants and what everyone will buy. Oddworld was one of the best game comapnys out there.

OR he could make Nod's Oddysee and pay Max MILLIONS!

Xavier 01-17-2010 04:46 AM

Yeah, like Stranger's Wrath...

Sekto Springs 01-17-2010 06:20 AM

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Yeah, like Stranger's Wrath...
Hey, that was EA's fault.

shaman 01-17-2010 06:30 AM

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Yeah. Basically, Lorne doesn't want to go back to Oddworld yet.

I'm looking forward to watching Citizen siege and the Abe movie on my deathbed.

Nate 01-17-2010 02:28 PM

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I'm looking forward to watching Citizen siege and the Abe movie on my deathbed.

When the best moments of your life flash before your eyes?

Leto 01-18-2010 01:32 AM

Ohhhhhh snap.

Xavier 01-18-2010 05:08 AM

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I'm looking forward to watching Citizen siege and the Abe movie on my deathbed.

A bit like in Soylent Green?

shaman 01-18-2010 07:41 AM

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When the best moments of your life flash before your eyes?

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Fuck you :p

skillya_glowi 01-18-2010 04:50 PM

I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. Holy Christ, another project? Sure, like with everything that Lorne does, I'm interested in what he plans to bring to the table, but the big problem is that nothing ever gets to the table.

As much as I love Lorne, if and when something actually comes out when he says (or hints) that it will, we'll know the Apocalypse is at hand. Case in point: There were rumours (ambitious rumours, but must have been inspired by something nonetheless) that CS would be released around 2009. In 2010 the brief is that the project is put on hold indefinitely.

I feel sceptical about this oxymoronic project of his anyway, because I fell in love with his art and his vision. I'll be damned if you can put art and vision into a social networking --- excuse me, Antisocial networking --- website. The idea is just weird to begin with. But maybe I'm just being a narrow-minded old-timer. I guess I'll just wait and see what happens.

Leto 01-18-2010 04:58 PM

yeah, we can be all "maybe i'm being narrow-minded" and shit, but realistically, wasn't the last thing he has released publically in like 2004 ffs? i mean, shit. you can have all the best ideas in the world but you can't be all fucking talk

Sekto Springs 01-18-2010 05:03 PM

2005. He's been floundering for half a decade now.

skillya_glowi 01-18-2010 05:10 PM

I've really never stopped cursing him for calling off everything that we looked forward to.
But hey, he's still the same man, I think. Which is why I can allow myself a teensy bit of wishful thinking.

Sekto Springs 01-18-2010 05:22 PM

Sometimes things just don't work out.
I'm not going to be mad at Lorne, as I don't think his inaction is through his own fault. Things fell apart after SW, and he's struggled for a long time to pick up the pieces. I'm sure there's alot of things going on he isn't telling us, hindrances and issues he's had to overcome since OWI went under.
Without a practical, businessperson like Sherry at his side, Lorne is just another starving artist with a few connections. I have faith in him, but even if nothing comes of the next few years, I'll still love the guy.

skillya_glowi 01-18-2010 06:13 PM

Heh, faith.

I'd still like it if he finished the Quintology at some point, but I think that's passed into the realm of oblivion by now. As well as CS and the Abe movie. Anyway, I dunno if these ANTIsocial networking shenanigans of his are going to work, I'm just disappointed about the fact that the guy never finishes what he starts, or starts what he says he's going to start.

And Sherry is still working with him, at least according to the link.