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skillyaslig 08-02-2007 01:07 AM

I will burn in hell, because I am a bad person. I like to believe in heaven and hell, spices things up a bit.

Spirrow 08-02-2007 07:44 AM

I believe there is such a thing as hell and reincarnation. But heaven is beyond my intrests for it just doesn't have the reality.

One theory mother brought up in the car one day was: If we all die and fade away forever, never to exist again, then why don't we all consider sin as much equal as goodwill and become a combination of both, if we know it won't affect us when we die?

Al the Vykker 08-02-2007 12:08 PM

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One theory mother brought up in the car one day was: If we all die and fade away forever, never to exist again, then why don't we all consider sin as much equal as goodwill and become a combination of both, if we know it won't affect us when we die?


It's either the fear of the possibility of it being real heaven and hell similar to "Pascal's Wager." Or there is the whole theory that we do have some form of morality that goes beyond religion, etc. that is all human beings. Ideas like Karma, etc. Some of the ideas of religion in purest form are great like the essential "goodness" of people and to take care of others and the earth leaving it better than you found it. Even if these are only sometimes implied.

Spirrow 08-02-2007 01:14 PM

Yes, I hear you, Al.

What I said basically meant why do we bother being kind if can
just die and our spirits or souls fade away and never become conscious again
and we never have to know what damage we've caused.

used:) 08-02-2007 04:19 PM

I consider myself agnostic, but I typically lean towards the idea that we will all enter eternal, dreamless sleep some day. I really hope there's an afterlife of some sort, besides Hell that is. I try to focus on life the most, because if we really do just disappear when we die, then much of life is wasted if you spend most of it thinking about death.

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Not necessarily. I mean, I'd say the single act of creating the universe is enough in itself for eternal thanks. For example, I personally just don't believe in divine intervention, but I would like to think that some sort of higher power kicked off this whole mess.

Arrogant as it is to pretend to know God's will, it is my belief that He wouldn't interfere with human affairs simply because He gave us free will. In other words, He wants us to make our own decisions, and divine intervention would essentially negate the point of free will, chance, and the consequences of our actions. At least, that's my opinion.

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But then, of course, you get into the whole "God is dead" thing... and I really don't even want to touch that.

That's a pretty good way of putting it IMO, but then where do you base your faith in a higher power without a few specks of divine intervention here and there? Of course, a bolt of lightning could be considered divine intervention in those times I guess. Anyway, I'm very ignorant about religious history, so my own personal views is really all I have in the end.

Spirrow 08-02-2007 05:04 PM

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I consider myself agnostic, but I typically lean towards the idea that we will all enter eternal, dreamless sleep some day. I really hope there's an afterlife of some sort, besides Hell that is. I try to focus on life the most, because if we really do just disappear when we die, then much of life is wasted if you spend most of it thinking about death.

Then why are we just sitting here writing crappy posts? Yet most of the time common sense and a guilty conscience is what stops us. That's why we have them in the first place.