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Mutual Friend 07-13-2006 10:27 AM

And the BBC is contractually obliged NOT to lie. If they do Michael Grade has to officially get flogged, Mussolini Style.

Lord Vulcher 07-13-2006 10:30 AM

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And the BBC is contractually obliged NOT to lie. If they do Michael Grade has to officially get flogged, Mussolini Style.

BBC is the best (Doctor Who).:fuzgrin:

sketch 07-13-2006 10:36 AM

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BBC is the best (Doctor Who).:fuzgrin:

doctor who is the best, I had a great conversation about it today at my local comic book store.... was great....

Lord Vulcher 07-13-2006 10:39 AM

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doctor who is the best, I had a great conversation about it today at my local comic book store.... was great....

I have a thread for it somewhere... hold on I'll have a look.
EDIT: Here it is.

Dusan 07-13-2006 10:40 AM

And why do you think that that ADAMS is telling the truth and...
**** OFFFFF
stop folowing ME

Lord Vulcher 07-13-2006 10:42 AM

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And why do you think that that ADAMS is telling the truth and...
**** OFFFFF
stop folowing ME

Who is following you?

Havoc 07-13-2006 10:54 AM

I'm starting to lose my already thin worn patience with you, Clutcher. STOP WITH YOUR DOCTER WHO CRAP IN EVERY TOPIC!

Dusan 07-13-2006 10:55 AM

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Who is following you?

Mutual Friend. not you.
And yes. You're kinda boooooooooooooring with that Doctor.

AquaticAmbi 07-13-2006 03:37 PM

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How you can be sure? Brain is the most unexplored thing on earth (not sure about the "thing on earth" but i'm certanly sure that you have a bunch of unexplored stuff there), so thinking of "Cecil Adams" it's not 100% correct.

Because medical scientists and doctors have crazy technology that can record the activity of the brain by producing images. Whatever parts are being used will be lit up different colors and whatnot. They can also test what percentage of the brain is damaged and/or dead by viewing the activity.

Sure, we don't know everything about the brain, but we know lots. The only live, physical exploration can be performed when people are injured and doctors start to play around and experiment a bit. I heart the Phinius Gage story.

Anyway, we know enough about the brain to tell what the lobes and what the inner brain do, so it's easy to make connections between the symptoms and what parts of the brain has the problem.

Lord Vulcher 07-14-2006 05:47 AM

I'd say the most unexplored thing is either the ocean or the brain. There are certain areas of the brain we know nothing about, for example, there may be a part of the brain that generates physcic ability in some humans. However, we still cannot confirm nor deny if this is true. Probably the brain will never fully be explored and some parts will remain concealed to us forever.

Bullet Magnet 07-16-2006 04:31 AM

Wow. Alot of people have Asperger's here. I have the symptom where you don't like to be touched, as does a friend of mine, but I don't think I am autistic.

However, the more I think about it, the more I wonder... is it really a disease? I mean, their minds function differently, but it seems to me that much of the stigma surrounding it is actually people's response and attitude to it, rather than the condition itself. I have heard of autistic pride rallies, and people with it who get very annoyed when it is referred to as a disease.

But then, what do I know?

used:) 07-16-2006 06:47 AM

On side note, wasn't Eintein considered to be autistic or something in the language department?

Bullet Magnet 07-16-2006 06:49 AM

Well, he didn't speak until he was... was it three? It was quite late in life, and his acheivements in school were unremarkable.

Kimon 07-16-2006 06:52 AM

Einstein was thought to be autistic because he didn't speak until age 4. But no, he was not actually retarded.

Bullet Magnet 07-16-2006 10:05 AM

I once saw a ten year old with Asperger's appear on Mastermind. He did pretty well, though I can't remember if he won. Specialist subject: Star Wars.

Nate 07-16-2006 07:26 PM

I didn't speak until I was three also. But - just like Einstein - when I did start talking, I went straight into full sentences.

And, secondly, the thing about Einstein not doing well at school is a myth because the school he went to changed their grading system after he left so that scores of 1 or 2 (which were originally the best grades) became the lower end of the scale. So someone saw his report card and misinterpreted it.

As told here.

Bullet Magnet 07-17-2006 02:41 AM

Okay.

My friend also did not speak until he was three, but then, that was about the time his sense of hearing finally manifested.

Primus inter pares 07-17-2006 10:10 AM

Well the type of autism, where you don´t talk until you are 3-4 years old, is called: "High Functioning Autism", it can really make the parents afraid, but when the child begin to speak, the child does catch up with the language.
It is just that thing that seperate it from Aspergers Syndrome.

Well here in Denmark we do not call autism "a disease", but we call it "a handicap", "a disorder", or more soft "a condition".
My self i do not think that autism like High Functioning Autism or Aspergers Syndrome should be considered disease, handicap, disorder, or at some other ways slighting.

Nate 07-18-2006 04:54 AM

I agree with you that autism should not be regarded as a disease - and I don't think it generally is to anyone who is not completely ignorant.

However, if you think we should not use the terms 'handicap' or 'disorder' because they are slighting, perhaps the problem is your perception of the terms rather than the fact that they are being used. People think these terms should not be used to describe disabled people and yet they're only percieved negatively because they've been associated with disabled people.

The fact is that people with autism do have difficulties performing some tasks that other people can do easily. Seems like a handicap to me.

Bullet Magnet 07-18-2006 06:48 AM

But then again, they may well excell in other skills. Someone who can here a tune once, then realise it again on their piano immediately may see even the most skilled piano player as handicapped. If indeed the thought even occurs to them.

sketch 07-31-2006 04:55 AM

well turns out I have Autism, I have Asperger's syndrome and Dyspraxic tendencies :fuzblink:

Primus inter pares 07-31-2006 09:17 AM

what is dyspraxia

Disgruntled Intern 07-31-2006 09:52 AM

I want to amputate both of my 'wedding fingers'. Well, my 'wedding' and 'engagement' fingers, rather.

I'm pretty sure this makes me autistic, too.

edit: Also, stop diagnosing yourselves based on some website you skimmed for ten minutes. Leave that sort of thing up to a trained physician and stop trying to jump on the mental retardation bandwagon.

sketch 08-01-2006 12:38 AM

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what is dyspraxia

It means I'm not good at sports, I'm slightly clumsy and it also explains why I can't ride a bike....


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stop diagnosing yourselves based on some website you skimmed for ten minutes. Leave that sort of thing up to a trained physician and stop trying to jump on the mental retardation bandwagon.

and a proffesional at my college diagnosed me....

Leto 08-01-2006 01:02 AM

Oh. My. God. They've got a euphimism for lack of sporting ability? ****ing christ. What ever happened to personality traits?

sketch 08-01-2006 03:18 AM

I know it's great

AquaticAmbi 08-01-2006 07:48 AM

Gosh, I wish I had known that term as an excuse when I was still in grade school... PE was so humiliating; that ridiculous word would have came in handy.

Hah, I'm with Super Munch on this one though. The inability to ride a bike is not a condition/disorder/whatever.

Nate 08-02-2006 05:00 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyspraxia

I really shouldn't have read that myself; I now have one more condition with which to diagnose myself.

Sections of note include:
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This disorder causes an individual to be clumsy to the point of knocking things over and bumping into people accidentally. Tripping over one's own feet is also not uncommon, as is a poor sense of balance in general.

Some people with this condition have poor spatial awareness in that it may be difficult to determine the speed and position of a particular object, such as potentially a baseball. Dyspraxics may also have trouble determining the distance between them and other objects.

Dyspraxic people may have Sensory Integration Dysfunction, a condition that creates abnormal oversensitivity or undersensitivity to physical stimuli, such as touch, light, and sound [citation needed]. This may manifest itself as an inability to tolerate certain textures such as sandpaper or certain fabrics, or even being touched by another individual (in the case of touch oversensitivity)... An aversion to loud music and naturaly loud environments (such as clubs and bars) is typical behavior of a dyspraxic individual who suffers from auditory oversensitivity.

Dypsraxics (along with people who have similar conditions on the Autistic spectrum) may have difficulty sleeping since there is an inability to force the brain to stop thinking and "shut down"[citation needed]. A dyspraxic is nearly always thinking about several unrelated things at once,
All of which applies to me quite nicely. I only hesitated when I read
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Dyspraxia... has been believed to affect 8% to 10% of all children
Which seems like an unusually high incidence for a condition that would make someone abnormal.
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A dyspraxic is nearly always thinking about several unrelated things at once, (the inverse is also possible, with only one dominant thought occupying the dyspraxic's entire attention span at any given time)
Which wonderfully covers all bases, I think.

Abeguy 08-03-2006 05:12 AM

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Yes and let it fester there where it will one day become a mental illness. :D


Hmmm, I was diagnosed with ADHD. Because of this I was put on the learning support list. One day someone found out and told everyone about it. Since then I have been regarded as a sped and treated as if I were mentally weak.

It's not that people with these conditions like ADD are stupid. I mean, I prefer to think of them as people who are willing to see all the options available at the time. In my beliefs, most of the 'slow' kids aren't in their positions because they're stupid, it's because they just lack motivation. I could care less if I nod off every once and a while. I've meditated some of the greatest things possible about lifea and probably wouldn't have been possible without my so called condition. It's more of a gift rather than a weakness in actuality.

my English teacher had ADD, and she's brilliant.

AS for me, I don't think I have any real mental differences. Some might think otherwise. But for all I know, I have none. Though I don't have that Dyspraxia crap, i.e. I can ride a bike. without hands, for hours on end