Yeah.........that made sense.

Word... ... Wait what? We're not talking about science fiction movies, dublyiya...

I know that...

look here for more info... that's just one of the sites...

For more info just Google Nibiru, Marduk, or Planet X

I'm staying out of this and every other morality thread here. Nobody want's another 6 month hiatus.

Any thread about sexuality or religion gets to two pages, easy. Real origional, Abeguy, real origional.

Not even bringing new light onto anything.

Nepharski and Super Munch, please don't spam. There's no point to what you said. It doesn't contribute to the thread.

Döbblyüw...

While I don't want to shoot down your beliefs, most alien theories do not hold much weight globaly (that doesn't mean they're wrong, they just aren't believed.)

That artical on Planet X raises a LOT of questions. The idea it was "planet 10" would have been obvious from translation (roman->decimal).
Also, there are countless satalites orbiting the Sun. Including Pluto as a planet would mean there are at least 10 (i believe the figure would be closer to 11).

Well any theory can be debated... even this threads ideas are debatable. I mean if so many different religions have so many different beliefs and these beliefs can counteract another belief that would positively have to mean that either everyone's belief is wrong or that somehow each one has a loophole that can tie them all together or that only one is right... I don't know?

In the past I believed heavily in religion...

now I really don't know if there is a God or not. The conclusion I come to is just to be a good person. If there is a God, I should end up in a good place when I die. If not...well, I died a nice guy.

-oddguy

Oddguy, Doing Good deeds alone will not get you into heaven even if there is a God

and all you atheists will attack that saying "Oh, more weakness in the bible!" "More Proof"
No, you'd get it if you read the bible. Know whats funny, some atheists know more about the bible then the religous people. Ironic eh?

Not really, in different terms that is. People tend to want to learn more about the enemy their facing, especially if a debate comes up about it.

Well Dino, we should ban atheism, you're reaction is the same as mine.
How bout you all ban together and form a new country, an atheist country, call it Ahthea and live in harmony in the mass destruction all around you, it shall be a country of mass drug use pre marital sex but there will be barely any marriage at all so that wouldn't be a problem, your kids could be raised in nice secular and anti-god homes and they'd be picking up drugs faster than you could say, "God isn't Real". Now, Imagine that all said in a British Accent

haha funny, and since you have no religion
the puzzle pieces fall into place

Now thats just retarded. You can't just assume that all atheists are dirty drug users who don't give a shit in the world. Some of the world's greatest thinkers have been atheists, Thomas Jefferson and Socrates for example. And besides, whats great about atheism is that you DON'T have to be controlled by a dusty old book when making decisions or going about your daily business, you can go by your own rules, and live a free life. So think twice before ridiculing atheists, because we own.

And you know this how?

Where do I sign up? :p

Seriously though, the most religious area in the world has daily suicide bombings.

Anyway, what really gets me, are these people who claim to have spoken to God! I mean, can you believe the ego on these people? Out of the 6 billion people on earth, he has chosen to talk to you... give me a break.

Its in there

Think of him as a holy bouncer

Which is why I prefer the Jewish perspective where anyone can get into heaven as long as they're a good person. Of course, they won't get as good a heaven as the theoretical perfect Jew but they also have less opportunities to screw up because they don't have 613 commandments to follow.

On another note; I found this article very interesting. It's by Penn Gillette (of Penn and Teller fame) and it describes how he lives his life as someone who believes there is no God (which he agrees is a belief system of its own - as distinct from someone who merely doesn't believe in god). So go read it here: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=5015557

Abeguy, doing good deeds alone won't get you into heaven if Christianity is correct.

However, doing good deeds and not believing in Jesus will not land you in hell. I don't mind if my lack of faith leads to purgatory. Hell, from my interpretation at least, is reserved for people guilty of Mortal Sin and unwilling to repent.

You speak all this bollocks and then tell us we're the ones in the wrong?

Right, I'm off to **** like a rabbit in my antitheic drug den. With multiple un-married partners. Some are animals. :)

Hey, Rich. Could you shoot some heroin into my thigh while you fuuck me in the ass or would you prefer to do it after. I just want to know for later.

You can never ban athiesm, because if there is religion, not all people buy into it. Not all of us think "Hey dere be dun gawd up in 'eavens comin' to take me 'n mah momma when we die!".

The situation: Abeguy type Christians, stop slapping us non beleiving 'satanists' with the holier than thou shite. All you're doing is making everyone angry.
Athiest extremists, keep it in your pants. All you are doing is continuing the arguement which cannot be resolved, for even if something does not exist, some people will still grasp onto it like it really does.









Go screw yourself, Adder. There's a difference between conversation and spam, sir mod.

Super Munch, no one here has said people who don't believe in "X" are satanists.

I'm aware this topic has just about degraded out of discusion or debate (in my opinion, at least). That's why I remove my self from this thread.

You sure you don't want to join our atheist-bestiality gang bang? Anyone who's in it's 8:00. Be prompt and bring your own sheep.

Stop being so literal minded. Abeguy was making the point that an atheist saying religion should be banned is as corrupt and evil as a religious person saying that atheism should be banned.

woot go nate
and I'm not saying that all atheists are that way, but if there was an all atheistic country, it'd be around that way, except in some spaces of it...yeah.

Yeah, the good people would band together in small cities that will eventually be either raided or bombed by the bad people.
Hey, its a possible strategy.

I realise that, hence me being in the 'what-if' state of mind.

If anyone else makes a topic called 'The Religion Topic', I'm going to call a jihad against them. There was no reason for this thread, it's just the age old 'believe or not' thing. At least the homosexual adoption thread had I point.

/me retreats from this thread.

heh.... had I point.
Well, now since the flaming is over, about my religion (sort of).
Pastafarianism, for those of you who don't know, is the religion of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Because I'm too lazy, heres a link:
http://www.venganza.org/index.htm
And for all of you people who think it's retarded, It's just about as retarded as a story of a guy two thousand years ago who could walk through a pond without getting wet.

Ramen.

Nah, surely it should returned to Abeguy, he needs his latest dose so that he can indulge in his drug-induced, paranoid delusions of atheist morality and activities.

- Rexy

Sorry, Rexy. But you aren't an atheist and therefor can't be a completely immoral drug addict. Maybe next time.

Heh, most of the druggies I've known are people who grew up in oppressive religious environments. It's their form of rebellion.

I myself grew up in a completely repressive, christian home. I wasn't even allowed to read ANYTHING that wasn't by a devoutly christian author. Although, this probably is what drove me to my absolute love of the written word in the first place. When I was nine I used to go the mall with my mom and we would split up for about an hour. I would go to the bookstore and spend my allowance on a book which I would then stuff down my pants for the return trip home. I had torn out the vast majority of the pages from my bible so that I could place a book inside it and look like I was reading about the great and almighty god.

On a side note I am probably not the best person to argue with Abeguy since my first child was born when I was 16 and I was regularly using heroin by 19. Oh well, what can you do? But I want to be clear that my drug use was not a form of rebellion. I just hated myself and wanted to die but I was too much of a coward to commit suicide. I'm over all of this now, by the way.

You're a "musician," most of them go through this stage. :p

lol. Yeah, we musicians sure are a likable bunch, aren't we? I made some good stuff in those years, though. If anyone wants to hear any of my work I would be happy to email some to them. That is if I can figure out how.

If you're trying to say that Athiest saying religion should be banned is the exact same as the other way around, then you're deadly mistaking.
Athiestism only exists because there actualy is a religion to 'hate' or 'be against' or 'not believe in'.
Would all religions in the world be gone tommorow, then so would Athiestism, because there would no longer be use for it.
But, if Athiestism would vanish tommorow, that wouldn't realy get rid of any other religions. Some will prolly even go: We is victorious! We have banned that Athiest scum to hell!

I'm heavily anti religion of any kind, yet I do not drink, smoke or use drugs. So does me not using drugs, alcohol and cigarets automaticly make me a christian? I would think not, and if it does I will go out and buy two kilo's of weed right now...

And mass destruction all around me? Didn't the oh so holy America get their pants blown off on September 11th? Arn't the Americans fighting on holy ground in Iraq and Afganistan? Didn't the French get pwned bigtime in a battle mainly over religion?
If that's what you call savety, then I'm happy where I am right now. I've never seen a tank roll trough my street, see an airplane fly in the factory across the street or have the entire block lit by burning cars.
In fact, isn't it noticable that most countries that don't hammer on religion so much hardly have a conflict?
Conclusion: Religion is deadly and dangrous (<-- and that was a joke BTW, for everyone who didn't get that already)

Abeguy, let me save you the trouble of pointing this out to him.

You can't ban atheism. You can't ban beliefs (both legaly {cause we have constitutions} and practicaly {people will still say "I wonder what that is?" and come up with answers}).

Atheism is NOT evil. Atheism does NOT attack Christianity any more than any other belief does.

Atheism is also not Anarchy. It does not promote anarcy. It has not been sproven, or shown, to lead to anarchy. It has nothing to do with anarcy exept for the fact they both begin with "A".
There is Evil in the world. People don't do good things. Christians don't always do good things (e.g. Crusades, Inquisision, Popes leading armys and having mistrises{technicaly, the Pope would not be doing anything wrong if your a Catholic}).

You should not blame religion for peoples actions against other people. It is only people who practice their religion blindly, who do not question why they're being asked to harm others, who do not think for themselves, that are to blame. The people leading them are also to blame, for they are mistreating their religion and believers.

your words, not mine
I never said that atheists were EVIL
Never said that blindly leaded religionists were right either
I agree with you on those terms

I'm not saying religion is "Oh So Uber!" and anyone not believing in it is damned to hell. I'm just trying to discuss different religions. get a bigger view on it. thats all

Adder, did you happen to even read my post?

Let's assume that he did read your post. Was his post directed to you? No. Is your word the final word of the subject? No. Don't be a twat and post something just to ask if someone read something you posted earler.

Abeguy, you've already said "Doing Good deeds alone will not get you into heaven even if there is a God" and quoted Jesus as a proof.

You are not discussion religion. You seem to be preaching.
Even if said sarchasticly, there is NO basis for this. You are clearly sending out an anti-atheist message. Why?