Fuck it. If you people don't get it then it ain't my fault, I'm not explaining this shit any longer.
If you want to get rid of the idiots then you're gonna have to stop being such wussyass peace loving hippies first. I mean god forbid you might have to actually tell someone off or even use a CURSE WORD! Sweet Jesus' fetus on a stick. |
You want me to bash a new member? Here, you're practically new!
Nobody wants to get rid of new members. Suggest something revolutionary that doesn't have to do with degrading people and driving them out, or post something that isn't "Hey, guys. I'm high right now! I grow marijuana plants! I'm an admin at a forum! Embrace me and worship me in a shrine dedicated to my three-and-a-half months of being a member at a forum dedicated to a game which I've even stated that I don't have any intrest in!"
Stop doing that. Nobody thinks you're "cool" for smoking pot. Pot turns people into babbling drooling morons whos greatest conversations include "hey man, I am so high right now." In fact, nobody here could give two shits about your marijuana garden. How stupid does one need to be to let that become public knowledge? It's a fucking Christmas Miracle that you can even type whilst high. Nobody cares that you're an admin. Being an admin at another forum does not make you a god as a noob somewhere else. You are a new member whos only seperative quality from others is that he talks big. You are NOTHING special here just because you run another forum. There. I said it. Stop trying to be cool just to grab people's attention on yourself. Become a productive member of the forum, don't start this "revolutionary" crap, and stop bragging about the fact that you're using a plant to kill your brain cells because nobody fucking gives a rat's ass. There, I did exactly what you wanted. I practically smote a new member here who was acting like an idiot and repeting his mistakes. Your dream is realized, Dino. |
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We want to bash idiots, not noobs and Dino is clearly intelligent. This thread stinks of mawk and codek, but I don't care who Dino is. He's pointing out something, the fact that someone such as stingbee, who was a complete idiot and a dickhead who wound us up purposely after we told him nicely to read the rules, walked all over us. He wasn't banned, which appalls me. No matter how much he did wrong, nothing was done.
I know that the spamming problem here is non-existant, but that's what makes it so much more annoying when retarded 5 year olds start posting how much they like stranger in off-topic. |
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Edit: But quite frankly, I think people like this (the 'idiots') just need to be banned altogether. :/ |
I hate both Dino and Stingbee. What to do!
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odd chick: nice argument, I appreciate what you are saying.
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If he won't ban members, our enforcement (you've all seen this, you all know threads where people enact 'constructive critiscism') causes them to change their ways, or leave. |
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Or, for a change, the enforcement of the forums could follow the rules or something.
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Some forums really are no tolerance, but unfortunately because of the change in audience from intellectuals with AO and AE to pre-pubescent fools with MO, this forum is an idiot friendly zone.
If OW go back to their roots with dark and interesting storylines instead of Crash Bandicoot style, day-glo nightmare adventures, then we shall have intelligent order restored. Also, some members have benefited from a few insults, that guy in fan corner improved his behaviour and writing style massively after Esus effectively called his story a pile of shit. |
That guy....do you mean chirpy? Yeah, he has improved his writing style. I also gave him a few writing pointers, and I believe that that also helped a little, too.
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Anyway, I didn't read Chirpy's story after I told him off for spelling or something. Time to check it out. EDIT: Just read the story, it still has some readability issues, but it was much improved. |
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Idiot does not = new member. :
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I have a similar stance on this to Odd Chick, but I also believe in the old saying, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." Is it possible for that quiz (I think Nate_dog_woof suggested it?) to actually be implemented? If it could, and if it needed typed answers (i.e. not just selecting one answer from a selection, as some people would just keep trying and trying until they got the right ones by chance), that would possibly prevent some of the real idiots from actually joining.
What I mean is, when someone registers, they would need to fill in the blanks for the quiz, which would probably be mainly general forum usage, and perhaps even some general Oddworld knowledge, seeing as this is an Oddworld Forum and we always end up with people asking obvious questions about Oddworld. Then, when the account needs to be approved by the administrator, he/she also looks at the answers for the questions and decides whether to let them join or not at his/her discretion. No doubt some "idiots" would still get through, but even a small reduction would be better than nothing. |
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Alcar... |
I'm taking sides here, but I definatley see what both 'parties' are stating. (Oh God, what a Libran.)
I completely agree with Dino, as said in previous posts. Yet, if we implemented this 'Nazi of Idiots' plan, we would lose some slightly coherent members. Take me, for example. If you look at my posts from a few years back (2002, early 2003), I was a complete idiot. Look at me now! I use full stops and punctuation! What I'm trying to say is, I'd like to kick the crap out of idiots, but they may bloom into marginally sentient beings. |
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I know that you hate to ban people, Alcar, but I think that everyone's right about Stingbee. He was horrible and not banned, and we don't need people like that in the community. [I still don't understand why Codek was banned so if someone could PM me the facts, that would be greatly appriciated] but in my opinion, Codek, was a great member of the community and helped out alot, and yet he was banned. [However, I don't know the full story...] :
We've all had to start from the bottom and "work our way up", it's not impossible. Just remember to think before you post, and try not to post whilst you're high. It's your choise whether to smoke pot or not, but some of the problems have resulted because you were high. I think, perhaps, that members who are unhappy with the way the forum is being run or have ideas about how the forum could be run, should either write about it in detail in a PM to Alcar or in a post in FS&H. But you must understand that when giving ideas, you must have respect to the admins and other posters. I'm not sure about many other people here, but when someone starts swearing on a forum because people don't back their ideas, it puts me off even more. [But, the other members and staff must respect the ideas of the poster as well.] People won't even consider your ideas, if you just whine and nag at them. :
Anyway, we have a democracy in this forum. Every year we vote in new staff [more or less], so the problem isn't how the staff treat idiots. Rexy |
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Take the "Final Oddworld" thread, for example. Sligco was being a total ass. Even after the other forum members gave advice, he kept being a dick. In fact, he got even worse. Unfortuantely, the thread was closed before I could chime in, but it was pretty bad. In my opinion, what went on in that thread deserves a ban, but due to the laid-back feeling at this forum, maybe just a suspension would be in order. Something to teach the guys a real lesson, but not permanantly remove them from the forums. The idiocy can be viewed in the following link: http://www.oddworldforums.net/showthread.php?t=12134 |
If you try see things in his own view, if someone dosn't want you to use chat speak, and another makes a big deal with and tell that Slico is a problem, it ends up becoming a fight. Slico was probably anyoyed that people just say it's cusing a problem and a huge fuss, now those are already pissed with Sligco, he feels misstreated, and would fight back aggresivly. And then flaming starts.
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Edit: After re-reading the Final Oddworld thread, I realize that it seems that Sligco may have been provoked by a few people here and there. However, it still gave him no right to flame people who were only trying to give him constructive criticism. I believe all of this is the reason why that thread ended up being closed. |
God, I feel so sorry for Alcar; no matter what he does, someone is never satisfied. When I first arrived here, there was some sort of "crack down on the rules" thing going on, making the forums more strict. People complained and were angered. Some even left, I believe. Now that the forums are back to easy-going, there's loads of complaints again. There's no pleasing you people!
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Rex Tirano... you have a serious superiority complex, and I suggest you take it elsewhere, because we're trying to have an on topic discussion here.
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We should put up a spell check for the idiots that can't type a sentence without a hundred spelling errors or for the people who constantly use chat speak. If they continue to spam, misspell and over use chat speak we sould give them warnings and ban them. If there just spamers like Stingbee just ban them after giving them warning or like the way Stingbee was just ban them without any warning because its clear there only there to spam. I've seen fourms with spell check and they seem to have less members with errors and bad grammer.
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In some ways Dino is just as bad as a spamer but he does have the right to flame people if he wants to no matter how much they may hate it. If he wants to be nasty to new members he has every right to be but it could just lead to his ban. No one likes to be flamed but if it becomes a critical problem after being told nicely to improve there spelling or to stop spaming then it should be ok to flame them for there stupid grammer. I hate people who don't even try to spell correctly. I'm not that great of a speller but unlike some newbies I try to spell better and try to correct the words I don't spell right. I'm also a fast typer and don't like to spend a great deal of time checking over my post so I still spell somethings wrong. All I know is that the spamers around here are just anyoing and need to be delt with.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Alcar
Ah, I see your point. I actually think that most of the time, the warning system we already have in place works fine. And the Sligco situation shows why flaming sometimes causes more harm than good. This thread shows how sometimes telling someone clearly what's wrong without flaming can be far more effective than calling someone how stupid they are. (Hope you don't mind me using this as an example, Cyber-Slig) And, yes, I know some people just won't listen when they are told clearly, but some people also don't bother to tell them clearly, they just get straight to insults which can sometimes mask what's actually being said. If they ignore everything that everyone tells them, then it's time for the moderators to step in, maybe even issue a warning depending on the degree of rudeness/stupidity/whatever. :
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fool 1: you're a stupid ****ing n00b. fool 2: you are probably only 13 and have no life apart from the computer. fool 1: i pwned him fool 2: stfu or ill pwn you so hard you will feel it. i laugh at these type of people. |
I say we kick the shit out of Reece for being Reece.
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Furthermore, I had actually thought of implementing another "strict" scheme in light of all the idiots at the moment, but I didn't for said reason. Those that complained about by toughness are whining again about my laxness. You hypocrites can suffer the wrath of your own ignorance. Mwhahahahahahahah! Alcar... |
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Also, i think that one of your majour mistakes with the crack-down was that you made such a big deal with it. It's like when someone tells you not to do something, then you get curious and do it anyways. But if you just don't say anything, the person wont even think about it. And for Gods sake, please stop with the Reece-joke, they are but an overused jokes, which aint funny anymore... :( |
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Anyway from what i can remember Reece Charles =4ourth Concept = Death = FeeCoFreak=Dino=Mawk= a lot of other people too. |
Um, yea, you forgot Codek. But that's not the point, you've just overused the joke. It was funny in the start, and yes, they may be the fact.
But still, it's kind of irritating seeing the same thing being posted over and over again... |
It's not really intended to be funny...
And codek was just a name change was it not... |
wow, i can see i havent missed much since ive been gone LOL im sooo just kidding *runs behind a tree*
yah kicking idiots' ass, thats funny, IF it was in person ^_^ |
Seriously, if this place gets strict again its going to be awful. Its noob this and noob that. Reprimand quickly and ignore the "Yeah, well you're a ____" comments afterwards Oh, and can we all just try to take the cursing and swearing down a notch? I remember getting warnings, PMs, and coming so very close to being outright BANNED for far less casual blueness.
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Or, if they are strong Knobs, then I don't think you'll live to see another day. (Asuming this is what schools are like all over the world) |
I enjoy a public arse-kicking match as much as the next person (the spat between sligco and Dipstikk was fantastic ;) ) but it tends to spawn itself in other threads, I'd noticed. As in, one thread turns into a fight between two members, mods close it, so the argument is taken to another thread... and so on.
Soo... I'd have to side with the mods/"hippies". ;) Their job is hard enough as it is without having to decide which rule to apply to which thread, and which rule to ignore because it's all for the sake of "flaming the living hell out of the twats". |