And you call me a hypocrite.

Different circumstances. You seem to think freedom of speech extends to yelling "JESUS SUCKS" in a church. And I argued against that. You came back with some argument about free speech and expression of opinion, yet you then contradicted yourself by agreeing with someone who thought us expressing our opinions about the forum theme was lame.

People who hate jesus don't go out of their way to visit churches to let everyone know this fact. They respect the fact that it may possibly offend people. The same thing goes for a public forum. Before you start shooting your mouth off about something you don't like, you should consider adding some respect.

I stand by my last statement.

That's nice. Did we need to know that? If so, why?

List 1 or more reasons as to why you think the stating of personal prefrences alone helps the forum and adds content. Excluding freedom of speech.

1. everyones allowed an oppinion.
2. we should all think differently
3. your a dick

Negative, I am a meat popcycle.

a meat popcycle that looks like a dick then.

*out of bastard form* Yay! Fifth Element Quote. Anyway Majic/ DI/Peter/ Abe Babe could you possibly Split this thread, the title 'Spinwarp' is slightly dilusional because it has a thread about Free speech and the like

Well it adds content of course as even spam adds content in a way, and personal opinions is sort of what this entire forums is about anyway for example I think that you are a CUNT! just the simple word of CUNT!!! that is my opinion CUNT!!!!! CUNT!!!!!!!!!!!! CUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now that put content in the forums and this thread so regardless of what it said I just helped your thread but on the other hand I offended you, ironic? Yes so stop being such a CUNT! goodbye. :fuzmad:

Well I think you can kiss your account goodbye....

Death, on another note, I'm willing to offer a Truce, as in, we both just leave each other alone, keep your opinions of me by all means, but just don't use OWF to convey them for the sake of the other members. You Ok with that?

Kiss my account goodbye? Is that a ban threat? you can't just ban me, you need to give a proper warning first, also Ferill insulted death as well so if you ban me you have to ban him too, and anyway I bet there is no one on this forum that has not insulted someone so you have to ban everyone and if you ban me I could just sign on as lucifer instead and if you ban me again I could sign on as lucifer1 instead then lucifer2 then 3 then 4 and so on and so on and so on! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Unless the Admins block your Ip's, then you'd be stuffed.

Yes, until your IP is banned.

EDIT: May you suffer horribly, hobo.

Stop spamming. EDIT: Coward :TIDE

Lucipher, you've clearly spoken in ways that go against the nature of this Forum, and if you can't see it, then that's tough. Someone with the ability to ban will be along shortly.

I'm happy with that yeah. :)

Truce then, lets forget this happened.

I agree with the person that suggested we split this thread up. This free speech thing could make an interesting debate.

And the fifth element quote was needed to inject laughter. "Are you a humanoid lifeform?" "Negative, I am a meat popcicle" LOLOLOL :lol:

(Sorry about the double post)

Jeeze leweez Lucipher. I said I don't have a problem with you and then you go and blow your top like that?

Look at where you've gotten yourself now. Ferill barely insulted me. He called me a dick, big flaming deal. But man, C U N T is about the worst word you can use against anyone.

I for one beleive Lucipher deserves at least the chance to apologise. I think this is highly against his nature. I'm not sticking up for what he said, especially since it was directed at me, but I beleive as the cause of his anger I should at least realise my mistake by bailing him out.

Yay! Problem solved. I love it when this happens.

-oddguy :fuzcool:

I dont think he should be banned, and I hope he isnt just for what he said. If needed perhaps just a warning. Although I'd probably just say refrain from using that word.

I forgot I thought was one of the words that was really looked down upon being said but oh well. I dont think thats still enforced as much as it used to be becasue it hasnt really been a big problem I guess.

I just want to give him the same chance I got to make up with everyone again. :)

Waht the hell, Death? Every single time I make a post I'm trying to increase my post count. Well, duh. And you say it like I drop kicked a newborn or turned a flamethrower on a basketful of kittens. Christ! You're the one who gets into petty little flame-wars to up your goddamn post count. Every single thread you're in you jump all over Hobo. I make a joke or a freaking post and you accuse me of the crime of the century:"upping my post count" and whine like a little bitch to have the thread closed. And don't say you don't do it, Death. It's all in white and brown, baby. You've done it on a different thread and you've done it twice in this one.
Also, calling a bunch of senior members and forums staff dickheads isn't going to get you anywhere. If anyone else pulled the shit you do on every post they'd be banned or suspended but some higher up loves you.
Edit: Death,how can you say I'm trying to up my post count when you've double posted TWICE in the same thread?!?!?!

Posting just to increase your post count is wrong. You should only post if you have something to say. It's not a crime against humanity, it's just a crime against this forum. Therefore, as someone who doesn't post for the sole purpose of upping my post count, I have full liscense to ask you to stop.

No, I don't get into "petty flame wars". I occasionally have major arguments with people, when I run into a big disagreement. If people on this forum would be slightly more accepting of each others opinions, then maybe ranting flamers like you wouldnt get to see arguments so often. And I've already apologised and made up with hobo, and we're friends now. This thread should be closed, because little dicks like you keep trying to start the argument up again.

I have every right to say I don't do it. Just as much right as you have to dispute what I said about you trying to increase your post count being wrong. The only problem is, you didn't dispute it or deny it. You actually admitted to it, then tried to defend it. So I hardly think you can take that standpoint.

Senior members? Staff? Please explain why these people somehow deserve better treatment. I am a senior member, I've been here for nearly a year now, and have well over 500 posts. Perhaps you should start giving me this extra special "treatment" that you so boldly insinuate as being deserved by only those we know as a "senior member".

No, I don't flame in every single post I make. That's total crap. I'm tame compaired to you.

You pulled off your "shit" in a thread that had a really bad argument in it. All sidesof the argument shook hands and called it truce. But then you come along and decide to make it a ****ing argument again. You ignorant piece of shit. Not only do you post at an alarming rate just to get the next highest rank, but you also re-start arguments that took alot of effort to end.

I only ever double post when I need to respond to two people seperately in a thread. Quite often I'll post, scroll up, read something else I want to respond to, and then hit the reply button, completely forgetting about the "Edit" function. If I wanted to increase my post count, I would go round replying to every single thread I can, even ones that ended ages ago - which is what you do.

Now, we've all worked hard to try and get the arguing to stop. All the staff, and all the members involved were brave enough to swallow their pride and admit they were wrong to argue. I did it as well as them. Your arguing here is disrespectful of all the effort we've made to ensure this thread ends peacefully. I suggest you take your problems/issues, staple them to your shoes, and go kick a tree. Because niether your stress, nor your aggro is wanted or needed. Especially in this thread.

This thread is like a light to flies for arguments. The flies just can't help but circle around the light until they're dead. The argument has been resolved a couple times and people keep coming back for more. It should probaly be closed, but I can't really do anything about it.

-oddguy :fuzcool:

EDIT: Moth sounds better..oh well. Oh, great idea, Death. I don't think anyone's going to post in this thread ever again!:lol:

Exactly. Some people around here are drawn to drama like moths to the light - I've made this comments many times in the past.

The argument is resolved. There is nothing left to argue about, except for what Statikk just started.

There is only one way to stop this:

THE NEXT PERSON THAT POSTS IN THIS THREAD IS A GREAT BIG LAME ASS STINKING SHITBAG!

:lol:

Pardon me, did you say something?

Eat me, Death. I've had it with your crap. And you bragging about your post count to ME is pathetic. I've got nearly 200 more posts than you and I've been here 3 times as long as you. And I'm not even close to being number 1. There are people on this board that have 3 times as many posts as you and me COMBINED. Also, if you accuse me of being a guy who slavers for rank and attemps to up my post count at every opportunity why do you post nearly 300% more frequently than I do? Oooh, gotcha there. And don't pawn it off as dedication, you double post like a fiend. You started the argument by being a pussy. You complained because someone said to the effect, "You know what? I don't like techno or dance music that much." If I posted a link to the new De La Rocha song and someone said it wasn't their bag I wouldn't be a little lamo about it and have a hissy fit.

Yeah, and your point is? You still haven't answered my question, you've just avoided it by pretending that I was trying to show off my postcount. In truth, I don't give a piss about how many posts I have. My argument is that it shouldn't matter what postcount you have.

So I will ask you again; what is it that makes you think a senior member or staff member somehow deserves more respect than any other member?

I could easily be classed as a senior member. So why aren't you giving me some kind of sacred respect? Because I'm less senior than you? Is that it? You feel that post count somehow makes you more important?

Just because I am an active member doesn't automatically mean I must be posting nothing but content-free spam in long forgotten threads to boost up my post count. My post frequency tells you how often I post, not the quality of what I post. I post in threads that interest me. I give my opinions, relivant information, and generally exchange my views on the subject. I strive to add content in each and every one of my posts.

You however, seem to have a track record of re-awakening old, long forgotten threads. I know this to be fact, because I still have a subscription to many of these old threads, and get sent an email each time you post in one.

I got 1 email every 2.5 seconds approximately, on one occasion. It was you doing a whole post bombing around a bunch of old threads.

I've double posted, ooo lets see, about 5 or 6 times since I first joined. If I really was, as you say, to pawn it off as dedication, then it'd be one hell of a claim. But not quite in the way you'd be hoping for. 5 or 6 double posts in some 9 months is hardly dedication. Out of 500 posts, 5 double posts makes up just 1:100th of my entire posting here at OWF. Now I thought you were the one who found people nitpicking over tiny details annoying?

It wasn't to that "effect". It was "Eww, dance music". Whether it was opinion or not, that doesn't matter, it still added no content, and it did so in a rude manner. What compells you to post in a thread that has something you don't like in it, and at the same time carry off a rude tone? Do you just HAVE to do it? Do you feel like if you don't express your opinions at every oppertunity, something bad will happen?

The "argument" is over. It started with differing views on what is acceptable and what isn't. Don't talk to me as though my views are wrong and somehow make me a "pussy". I don't give a shit if you don't like techno or dance music, niether does anyone else, so don't be so stuck up yourself to think anyone will even care enough, to justify you expressing your sacred opinions.

Before you post, try and decide whether anyone will care. If you come to the conclusion that nobody will care, then don't post it. This counts for opinions too.

I'm not asking people to not give their opinions, and do as I say when I say. I'm just suggesting people moderate their behaviour a bit more, and try to stay realistic on what people will want to read. We've got to think of others rather than be selfish all the time. I'm tired of others disregarding all content and just posting four or five words about how they do or don't like something/someone. I am also tired of people excersizing what they see as their "god given rights", just because they can. A prime example being a young girl at miami airport, making a joke about a bomb.

Man, its surprising to see this on an Oddworld Forum, but atleast its not as bad as some other discussion boards Ive seen. Even though this is off topic discussion. ;)

I think Death handled himself in a mature manner in his last right here, and I think that if anyone wants to say anything further, perhaps there should be a new designated thread for it. Just a suggestion.

I refuse to let this go. You compare joking about bombs in a goddamn airport to "Eww, dance music."? Are you out of your farking mind? I'll post on any thread I friggin' want! Who died and made you the commisioner of the Thought Police? You told me to think and see if anyone will "care" if I post my opinion. Well guess what? It doesn't matter if you care. There isn't a rule here that says: "Post your opinions if a stuck-up bastard like Death will care."
Do you think this will stop me from posting? "Oooh, Death told me not to. Let me meditate for an hour and see if anyone cares about my post. Let me consult God and see if Death will approve of my post." Shove it, you fascist braggart. You even make the claim that you never resurrect threads, never double post and all your posts are quality. You double post constantly. You never fix 'em. And you whine like a little PUSSY to have a thread closed if someone doesn't agree with you about twice a day. And you really patched it up with Hobo all right. NOT! He never accepted your truce, a few posts after it he insinuated that you were a lame ass sack of shit. Some truce.

Well maybe that's part of your problem right there.

You haven't read my last post properly. I said "I am also tired of people excersizing what they see as their "god given rights", just because they can. A prime example being a young girl at miami airport, making a joke about a bomb.".

OK, you go right ahead and post whatever you want, wherever you want. But don't expect to be able to get away with it for long.

Of course it matters if I care! God damnit, you ignorant son of a bitch, you aren't the only person on this forum you know. You can't just go round posting what you want where you want, without even giving a second thought about how others might feel. Respect goes both ways dipshit. You can't just build a motorway through some guys' house because you don't care.

No, but there is a rule that says hateful content is not allowed. Perhaps you should follow it? (as though you any regard for the rules anyway!)

What? I asked you if you would think before you spoke, rather than spewing out all this offensive crap. Why is that such an unreasonable request? Of course, woe betide anyone who has any such regard for others feelings.

No, I don't double post constantly. I double posted a few times in the last few days, but man, what a big deal that was! I mean, it truly is the most heinous of crimes to double post.

What would be the point in fixing them? So long as I got my point across, and added something to the discussion, I think the double posts were justified.

I never whine to have a thread closed. I ask if the moderators will close a thread. I don't demand it, I ask. And I only ask if there is some kind of unwanted flame war going on.

There were no such posts from hobo. I checked all the way through this thread, and there are no posts after the one where he asked for a truce. Stop trying to deceive people. Especially with the sole objective of breaking up hard-won truces. I'm not going to let you get away with trying to break up a truce at the expense of a perfectly decent person.

You posted a thread that sadi the next person who posted after you was a great big lame ass stinking shitbag in gigantic letters. Right afterwards Hobo posted "Pardon me. Did you say something?" It was a clever burn on you. Let me explain it to you, because not only are you arrogant, you are feeble-minded: Hobo said, in not so many words, that you are a great big lame ass stinking shitbag. And I tend to agree with him.