Giv eme the evidence~! I demand irrefutable evidence! Evolution is speculation without the proof and incredible claims call for incredible proof. Proof proof proof proof, (continue chan until i see proof.)

Ya want proof, Statikk HDM, take a look at the next dog you see. The varieties of dog we have today today are all thge result of evolution based on artificial selection, meaning that the environment doesn't pick favorable characteristics, humans do. We call different types of dogs "breeds" as opposed to seperate species, but the name is irrevelant; species are simply defined by the inability to produce fertile offspring. A German Shepard and a chihuahua (is that how you spell it?), have as good of a chance in porducing offspring than a horse and a donkey. Asa matter of fact, horses and donkeys, while different species, have e better chance in reproducing, they can create infertile offspring (its called a mule if you don't know, backwards its elum...hmmm). If you have any other doubts, take a look at the fossil record some time.

Agnosticism isn't the uncertainty of God's existence; it's a firm opinion that God's existence cannot be proven.

There's nothing uncertain about that. It's also a pretty open-minded point of view, despite the claims made by Catholicism today.

I had a argument about this with one of my friends, dont ask how. It started off as a non-geeky convo then turned into:

Her: "Proove that Dinosaurs walked the earth and we evolved from apes."

Me: "Bones and we are like the apes."

Her: "The Government could have planted the bones and the apes could pretending to be us."

It was all very annoying.

lol! The scary bit is, she could be right! (um,... yea). *laughs* *laughs* *laughs*

Y'know. You can't even prove yesterday existed. Or the last five seconds. Or... you get the point. There are things you just can't prove to thickheads, yet everyone is going to agree that yesterday existed (um, correction, most people). HECK, you can't even prove you have a conscience! *shudder*


- TyA

Eheheh. You can't even prove the earth is round unless you shoot someone into space to check for themselves. Who guarantees the photos aren't frauds and the people who went up are all liars? ...

I'll stop now. *chuckling*


- TyA

pinkgoth2, the edit button looks like this: http://www.oddworldforums.net/forums/images/edit.gif

Statikk, proving evolution occurs is like proving the sky is blue. Unless you're colour-blind, you should have no problems in accepting the sky is blue. Evolution at its most basic level rests itself on rules that are in accordance with nature. If you argue against evolution, you argue against natural laws. All living things are equipped with the tools to evolve. We all have DNA, and it's long since been established that DNA changes via a number of means, whether it be through sexual reproduction or through mutation. Variation in the phenotype (visible outcomes of the genes) is what results, and common sense tells us that those with characteristics beneficial to their survival have an increased chance of reaching maturity, gaining the ability to produce offspring, who will in turn possess these beneficial characteristics. The environment is what chooses which organisms will survive and which will die. A changing environment suggests a change in which organisms will live.

If you accept these facts, then what qualms could you possibly have with evolution? If you reject these facts, explain why.

No. Because last time an evolution topic or a Big Bang topic was here, the poeple who didn't belive in evolution or the Big Bang said that the evidence was false somehow.

Go and find the old evolution topics if you want the evidence.

Or read the post Sydney just made.

Something about it being a 'Test' from God.