Ah well, it's better to be truthful than to pretend you're following with the trend because of everyone else. Ack, that sounds terribly condescending.

Go get brutally raped by a hulking Ugandan soldier. Then come and tell us about empathy.

this. it amazes me how many people will just pass something on or sign themselves up to some shitty cause without looking further into it just because they feel guilty after listening to their sob story. doing that does not absolve you from guilt. you can't say "well, i've done my bit", because these things aren't as simple as that. you need to go further than just skin-deep, otherwise you're just a fucking robot.

I expressed my disgruntledness with the KONY 2012 campaign on FaceBook, thinking of it as an uninformed emotionalist bandwagon. Some became annoyed with me, not being able to comprehend the difference between being concerned about the credibility of the campaign thinking children being shot at is a good thing. People are unbelievably easy to manipulate.

Call me racist, but I don't trust the guy because he's American.

You're racist.

This is by and large one of the most respectable things I've ever seen you post, Moxco. And I mean that in the absolute best way.

Here's something I cooked up and that I've been pasting here and there. I got some dumb girl from British Columbia to call me a 'troll' for saying she was an ignorant piece of shit after stating that Invisible Children keeps less than 1% of their revenue.
PROTIP: IT'S MORE LIKE 70%

RE: ALL OF THIS KONY 2012 CONVERSATION
Listen folks, it's totally commendable for you to look on something like Uganda or the LRA and want to help, to bring stability and lend your mighty gestalt social will to the scene and do what you can.
But to just take what you're told at face value? How could you genuinely know you're helping unless you actually do some research? Yeah, the video we've all seen is very heart rending. We don't want more kids like Jacob, and thankfully there is something you can do. The easiest way to get rid of crazed, dangerous vermin like Joseph Kony (and to put the people who don't have any legitimate good intentions in their place) is to support instigating a stable government who will, in turn, take care of the small fry destabilizers. You want another Congo or Somalia? Keep blindly following manipulative Trash like invisible children. You want me to NOT post big walls of text on your wall? Just read this, if you please!
visiblechildren.tumblr.com

Now rep me, all of you! Muahahaha!

So

If we want to help with this, are there any good, genuine charitable ventures we can support instead?

I've just started one called the Koncealed Kids. If you wish to donate, just PM me your bank details.

Don't trust Ench. He's related to convicts.

PM me your bank account details.

Too many K's close together. From a PR perspective, that's not a good name for a Kharity.

I only just started hearing about this crap, thankfully. I'm probably not well informed about it yet, but it seems hipster crap and people getting butthurt over stuff that's been going on for decades. Could someone give me a quick sum up of what's going on with this and why it shouldn't be supported so I can take part in this bitch fight? :D

Also I thought this was funny. Maybe not true, but still funny.
http://imgur.com/K3mgn

Edit: Moxco's video summed it up nicely.

Havoc... I do believe you should research both sides and not just take the more popular stance before joining the bitch fight. I don't mean anything bad with it, just saying :) It seems like you have anyway.

I couldn't watch the video through anyway... There was no introduction posted anywhere, and the video seemed very slow to get to the point. I may try to re-watch later.

When watching it though, I was super paranoid that they were trying to talk to my subconscious :p Sometimes Im just silly like that. But it seemed really suspicious for them to say "THis will only work if you pay attention the next 30 mins" or whatever they said. I dont appreciate people making demands like that <.<

Have a nice day!
/paranoid T-nex walks out of the thread.

I want to watch it so that I can feel comfortable criticizing it, but, fun as that could be, I'm not wasting 30 mins watching the video then countless hours telling my friends why they're stupid.

One of my friends posted this. I don't know the source, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was true.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...23916747_n.jpg

Can anyone verify the integrity of this?

Invisible Children makes their financial information publicly available. http://www.invisiblechildren.com.s3-...inancials.html

Okay, I just skipped through that very flash glitzy video and a couple of articles...


...so tell me if I'm reading this wrong, but basically are these guys trying to whip up some sort of public fervor with the goal of taking down some horrid African dictator?

I'm very unsure of this....

I dunno if this was already posted and I can't be bothered checking.

http://www.invisiblechildren.com.s3-...critiques.html

Also, he reminds me a hell of a lot of the eleventh Doctor, in both looks and the way he's running around saying that we can save the planet if we all think about doing it (or whatever it is).

Essentially, yes. But there are more horrid dictators, more dangerous people in positions of political power and much much much more efficient ways of bringing stability to the area. Joseph Kony is small potatoes compared to hundreds if not thousands of other monstrous individuals. The goal is to get all the slacktivists they can to bitch and and whine about something that they basically would not give a shit about otherwise so that they can pat each other on the back for a job well done when Kony is taken care of, which will only bring that much more instability to the area because he has a several thousand strong militia of child soldiers which will become a headless, guntoting, psychopathic little band of zealots fuelled by a bizarre pseudo ideaology. Invisible Children is basically a bogus charity powered by guilt and god fucking damn it that picture of those sons of bitches in the jungle holding weapons makes me want to cut them apart with a fork


tl;dr it's for reddit faggots to think they're helping when they're doing nothing of the sort

I didn't know American was race?

Also, using social media to do something other than post career ruining pictures of alcohol induced White Castle misuse is a good thing. I mean sure, a lot of people ranting on about this on FB right now are prob just pretending; but, like Occupy Wall Street, it started with good intentions and you shouldn't let the phonies ruin your opinion of it.

no, you didn't.

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attac...difference.jpg

Well they are noticeably different

you are a turd floating around in the shallow end of the pool of intelligence. only you can realize this.

I hate this argument. “There are bigger badder problems in the world!” is not a reason to ignore smaller issues. We are not a civilisation that can only focus on one goddamn problem at a time; we can support the arrest of Kony while also supporting the fixing of problems elsewhere.


Getting people to give a shit is not inherently a bad thing.


I doubt they would just slap handcuffs on Kony and say “welp screw all these child soldiers, they’ll get by just fine on their own!”


This is true, but your reasoning is fallacious.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...53307552_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...36810555_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...58388429_n.jpg

First person to get all three of them right gets rep.

My little Kony
Obi-Wan Konybi
Kony Montana

Meh, close enough. I liked Obi-Wan Kony better.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k.../konyperry.jpg
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k.../koniccopy.jpg
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...550373copy.jpg

Find those, get rep ^^

I must be succeeding in keeping my fingers off the pulse if this one slipped by me until now.

I'm not saying there are bigger and badder problems in the world, I'm saying that eliminating Kony is small potatoes and won't solve a damn thing in Uganda and East Africa. I'm saying that there are dozens of others like him (and many, MANY worse) and that the surest way to bring about peace would be to bring order through a non-corrupt government that isn't batshit insane. Start at the top and work downwards. Eliminating Kony is like a man getting rid of the problem of a boil on his finger by infecting it with a flesh eating virus.



Except you don't give a shit. If you did give a shit, you'd look into this beyond Invisible Children's sparkly video and sad sack manipulation and realize there are much, much more significant factors at play other than what is essentially just witch hunting a serial killer until we can all feel less tenuous white guilt.



Really, neither of us could know, but presuming that they'd go to the extent of in any way solving the Child Soldiering other than a complete, economically impossible reeducation of them or complete elimination of the army as a whole is naive. Once all of these whinging assholes get Kony taken down, pat themselves on the back and return to being cynical wastes of space all of these poor fucking bastards are going to fill the power vacuum and just keep on raping, pillaging and marauding.

Don't you call me fallacious, you little shit. Are you not a Reddit going faggot? Do you really think you're helping after wandering across Invisible Children and joining in with an impotent chorus of white college bums who could not begin to understand the meticulous foreign workings of Ugandan government any more than they understand our politics? (and no, I'm not claiming I do, but I've done a hell of a better job researching and caring about this than you have) Is Invisible Children not lying to our faces through their claimed intentions and easily researched financial history? It's a gigantic fucking useless buttpat and you should be ashamed to not have been smarter about your involvement in it.


I'm not trying to dissuade you from being involved at all, I'm just telling you that there are more than two sides to this and I want people on the one that involves taking some shit for Africa. Good on your for becoming interested, now start digging and don't stop until you've opened up a metaphorical, realistic escape hatch for blood diamond mining and other horrors.