Wow. I'm with Incognito on this, as he clearly has the advantage of knowledge. I bow to you sir. :bow:

But I'm slightly confused as to what this has to do with Immigration, with the exception of the fact that a lot of immigrants are Islamic.

OK. I admit I did paste that from a western site.

Maybe there is, but I don't want to read the 'Satanic Verses'. If I wanted to read a peaceful and inspirational religions book I'd rather read the Upanishads of Hinduism or the Tripitaka of Buddhism.
You do know that the crusades happened about 500 years after the compilation of the Quran? Just because a scholar says something or a muslim acts in a certain way does not mean it is actually the right thing to do.

And your point is? The Vedas were written 4,000 years ago and are considered the supreme books of Hinduism. The Aranyakas, Upanishads and Brahmanas were written some 1,000 years later yet they still form the fundamental canon of Hindu scripture. I'm sorry but Islam is not a religion that is attractive or peaceful. For example, the surpression of women. Did you know that even in a rich country like Saudi Arabia, only 27% of girls are aloowed into education by their fathers? And they have to cover themselves up completely. Frankly, I don't know why they take it.

The "Satanic Verses" is a book written by Salman Rushdie, I never asked you to read that did I? If you're going to have pre-conceived ideas about something that you haven't even read or studied independently then I don't see the point in continuing this discussion.

See that is exactly what I am talking about when it comes to Hadith vs Quran; the Quran allows women their rights it doesn't ask them to cover up but rather to dress modestly. The hadith is like an explanation of the Quran by the 9th century arabs - so to them modest would be fully covered up. Unfortunately what started out as something the 9th century muslims used to apply the scripture in their soceity has become a rigid dictator to the lives of many muslims. So instead of 'evolving', muslims are stuck with instead of the tolerant islam that the Quran preaches, a religion that is stuck in the dark ages and has nothing to do with the true message of the Quran.

Female circumcision is not an islamic practice, but a pagan practice that has been carried on by many tribes in Africa whether they be muslim, christian or pagan. Again the issue of women's education comes into issue here, many scholars tell the women that female circumcision is prescribed in the Quran, yet because of of the high rates of illiteracy not many of them can actually go to check the facts. These so called "islamic doctrines" that your friend talks about is the hadith which I am talking about, not the Quran.

If you really feel that way then I don't see any point in continuing this discussion. If you do wish to continue (which I doubt) then please start a new thread as we seem to be off the topic in this one. BTW animal cruelty and sacrifice their motives can be found in the hadith. If you were actually open minded and studied islam properly you'd realise that alot of injustice is done in it's name.
I'm just going to end this post with one of the smaller chapters from the Quran; judge from this yourself how intolerant islam really is,

Chapter 109
109:1 In the name of God, the Almighty, the Merciful.
109:2 Say: "O rejecters,"
109:3 "I do not serve what you serve,"
109:4 "Nor do you serve what I serve,"
109:5 "Nor will I serve what you serve,"
109:6 "Nor will you serve what I serve,"
109:7 "To you is your religion, and to me is mine."

Did anybody see the massive riot that kicked off when the rumour of Marines using the Koran as toilet paper got out?

Anybody hear of all the deaths that happened because of it?

Needless to say, Islam may be put across as a peaceful religion, but it's not if you insult their God.

On a programme called 'It's my life' there was this Muslim called Mohammed (heh) and he said that they'd do anything to protect their God's name, even kill, but the God himself is a peaceful God. But they love him so much, they'd kill anybody who abused him.

Savages. Bring back the British Empire, that's what i say, golly gosh and all that!

I also want back the British Empire. I don't know what those 20th century fools were doing, throwing it away.
And getting beaten by Ghandi? Jesus Christ, he didn't even have a gun.

Though, without the Empire, we could still pwn the shit outta them Muslims.

Erm, one thing Incognito. The 'Satanic Verses' are what Salman Rushdie believes some verses of the Qur'an to be. They were compliled by some guy called Muhammed Ibn Ishaq or something. To be honest, I agree with him on the whole satanic verses concept.

Omg

That pissed me off so much. First Abu Graib then that! How do we expect to make peace with the Islamic Nation if we keep trashing their people? (PA is gonna get a kick outta this)

Disrespecting people and religions in such a way are not examples of the behaviour of people who're responsible, mature and intelligent. Seriously it's good demonstration of a man's character when he display's support for these troops. Shows how ignorant, boorish, inconsiderate and immature he is.

So I say let PA come in and celebrate this idiocy, because his moronic actions will speak for themselves. So will the way that he accuses anyone who holds an opinion that opposes his, of being liberals, atheists and "towelhead" supporters.

That second paragraph sounds like an extract from an old piece of literature or something.

'Disrespecting people and religions in such a way are not examples of the behaviour of people who're responsible, mature and intelligent. Seriously it's good demonstration of a man's character when he display's support for these troops.'

The army did f*ck all though, it turned out to be a falsified claim.

It reveals more about the people who murdered innocents, trashed shops and attempted to do more harm than good just because the rumour mill stated a sh*t stain of a book was used as toilet paper. So primitive.