Assembly Language vs. C vs. C++ vs. Java

Wasn't java the main reason why Minecraft is so slow on most computers?

Or am I just being falsely convinced by online reviews?

Android uses Java.

You know, the phones infamous for interface lag.

I think it's the latter.

I get over 100 FPS in Minecraft at max settings.

There is no sentence in that blog post that I agree with.

I have a laptop that was purchased off the shelf. It runs Minecraft better than it runs TF2.

You must be joking, Java takes up so much memory, I ran Minecraft and looked in CPU usage and it was at 98-100% on Java.

I noticed that Minecraft, which is written in Java, is faster than TF2, which is written in C++.

I noticed that a pong-clone, which is written in C, is faster than Crysis, that is written in C++, therefore C is faster than C++

Also, be quiet!

whoa, whoa, hold the phone

a game which runs on voxels is smoother than a game that runs on polygons????

Not true, C++ is faster than C because C++ is newer and has OOP support, though they're about the same.

The pong-clone must have been optimized better than Crysis.

Since Minecraft worlds generate infinitely, most Minecraft worlds have a lot of blocks and mobs. Therefore, Minecraft has more polygons than TF2, but since Minecraft is written in Java and TF2 is written in C++, Minecraft will obviously be faster.

Also, Java has garbage collecting, so it takes up less memory than Assembly, C, or C++.

Yeah, and all these polygons are on screen and being rendered at the same time.

Just stop. Don't embarrass yourself

Well, I tried TF2 on an old laptop and it ran reasonably well, Minecraft, however, let's just say 10-20FPS tops will all settings down.

JAVA IS BETTER QUITE CLEARLY GUYS YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE ON ABOUT.

You have no idea what you’re talking about, shut up.

You have no idea what you’re talking about, shut up.

I don't think I'm the one that's embarrassing him/her self.

On my new laptop, TF2 is laggy even at recommended settings. Minecraft is smooth though.

I don't think I'm the one that has no idea what (s)he's talking about.

You should think that, because obviously you're wrong.

THEN EXPLAIN TO US HOW THIS IS WRONG:

So troll or what?

If not, there's a metaphor about tradesmen and tools that's appropriate here.

Java code runs in a virtual machine rather than actual machine code, so it's very inefficient. Better than it used to be, but still slow.

The difference between C and C++ is arguable. It used to be that C++ code was actually compiled into C code, which was then compiled in to machine code. The conversion wasn't very good, so C was regarded as faster. These days I'd say that the compilers have gotten to the point where it's much of a muchness. You're comparing apples and oranges though; the choice between C and C++ should come from how you want to use the language, not how fast they are.

Well-written assembly code will always be fastest. But producing well-written assembly code for anything but the simplest program is way too difficult to be bothering with.

If you write your C/C++ code well, you don't need garbage collecting. And it will take up a hell of a lot less memory.

About time someone figured it out!

After looking up benchmarks, C is actually slightly faster than C++.

Also, Java is actually faster than most languages, I heard that it is actually as fast as non-optimized C++ code.

According to the Benchmark, Mozart/Oz is the slowest.

The benchmark I was using can be found here, more benchmarks can be found here.

Like Nate said. Much of a muchness.

Java is much faster than it used to be, but it still runs through a VM. If it's as fast as C++ code that's a fault of the C++ coder.

Minecraft is terrible on my PC. I have to install some mods to make it even playable.

But only if the Java code is incredibly well optimised.

That's like saying if I did nothing but train for the next five years, I could beat Usain Bolt in a race if his legs were broken.

Nate's first post in this blog is the first that actually makes any sense in relation to the original blog post.