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I nominate reproducing this thread.

Also, in regards to your music, I haven't heard anything else you've done but this one is a clusterfuck of bad. I'd rather not write a full on critique on a blog of all places, so I'd suggest either pointing me in the direction of a thread or taking this to PMing.

You asked if I think you're improving. I'd say yes. Definitely improving. Is it great? No. Is it adequate? Perhaps. Keep at it though, seriously.

I can't believe I'm asking, but why do you have to remember that date?

See, people? This is what I want! Brutal honesty, thanks SB!

STM, if you really want to know. Here you go.

And yeah, Slog Bait, those threads are pretty funny, but to be honest I expected nothing less from Alcar XD. But unfortunately, I don't think that thread was 'epic' enough to reproduce. We need a thread that has gone on for at least 5 pages to get some good conversation out of it's topic.

So, should I start this 'Thread reproduction initiative'?

Never ask people what they think of your music. Also, never care what people think of your music. Unless you are making it to be a salable product, or writing soundtracks, or some shit like that. But if you are creating music to create music then fuck everyone else. All that matters is that you made it. It doesn't even matter if you think it's good. In fact, it's better if you think it's bad, as you will keep pushing yourself to make more, and better music. But again, don't care what other people think. Don't listen to advice. It's all bullshit.

As for the other thing, don't you fucking dare.

Well, I do think it's bad, so I suppose you're right, I will keep pushing myself to be better. Thanks.

As for the 'TRI', I am going to start it, it's worth a try, the forums have been so boring lately.

Or were you talking about my 'date'?

Both. Do not bring back a bunch of shitty threads. No one wants that.

It might not be an entirely good idea to rule out other peoples' opinions of your music. While yes, you're doing it for yourself so who cares what other people think, it's not very likely you'll actually "improve" at what you do if you keep it all solely to yourself. When getting other peoples' opinions of your work you can learn something new that you might have wanted to implement into your work before that you couldn't have, or be pushed to do something new that you may enjoy more than what you've previously done.

Though, that varies from person to person. It's all a matter of preference.

Trust me, I am the OWF archeologist, I swear to god, if I bring back threads, they will be fucking good ones.
I suppose, to be honest I just enjoy making music, even if it is bad, I mean, everybody started out somewhere, right?

http://www.oddworldforums.net/showthread.php?t=8990

I was extremely amused by this.

Of course. You'll get to the point you want to be one day. The fact that you're aware of the state of your current work means you're bound to get better. Just keep going at it and if you need any help don't be afraid to ask.

A+ thread. Definitely a keeper.

Oddworld Forums has no good threads.

And no, Slog Bait, taking people's advice will not make you a better musician. It will just make your shitty, generic music more palatable to that particular person.

I always tried to be unique, make a mixture of genres that will sound, pretty good, obviously not at the moment.

Why weren't all the members like this back then?

Most of us were like that back then.

No you weren't, you were all too nice, it disgusts me to go back there, far too nice.
The same guy also posted this.
Who was it who said "Urge to kill... RISING"?
The spoke sense.

I wasn't. I'm so much nicer than I used to be.

Again, it varies from person to person, and it's really up to Nep what he does in the end.

When it comes to shit like music, you can either try to develop your work on your own, rely on others' feedback to help you develop your own work, or do some kind of mixture of both. Sometimes people need that little push from others to get to where they want to be.

Sometimes you need to know what other people think of your work to truly enjoy what you make. It's all a matter of preference.

Usually when musicians seek advice for their music, they don't just ask a single person, they'll ask many, many people. They usually ask it because they're unsure of where to go from where they currently are, and are looking for a direction to walk in.

You don't need to follow advice word for word, even if it's from a professional, but it's still a good idea to think about the advice given and see if it might help you towards your goals.

When this blog dies, please don't reconstruct it

Sure, it's up to Nep. He can take your shitty advice seriously, or grow as an artist organically, and maybe become good.

I mean, you're talking about art, and art is a perspective. It's a manifestation of who you are. Actually giving a shit about anyone's ideas as they pertain to your art is literally the death of your art. You are no longer creating something that is genuinely from you. That's how Nickelback was born. But hey, if you want to suck, and have no point of view, but maybe get people to like the awful drek that you made, be my guest, listen to Slog Bait.

Don't listen to OANST's suggestion! Do neither and become even shittier artist!

Don't listen to any advice above, including these coming from OANST. That's what OANST advised.

You could always do that.

Varrok always has the answers!

Dude, you can take advice from people without it fucking up your work. If you take advice on how to do your art in a way that appeals to individuals, yes your shit it going to end up generic garbage. It's getting advice on how to learn to do things you don't know how to do.

You're saying "Hey, if you listen to advice on anything involving your music at all your shit will never actually be good!" when that's not true at all.

It's more taking advice on how to use the tools you're given to properly portray what you hear or see or feel. You might have this fantastic idea, or the potential for them, and no matter how hard you try you can't figure out how to express it.

That's why you ask other peoples' advice. "Hey, I really want to do this thing, but I can't figure out how to do it." "Sure pal, I'll help, you just do this and this and there you go." And you can experiment with the new knowledge from there and create what you had originally envisioned in its entirety.

This is exactly what I need.

It's true about OANST, he's about 6.73% nicer than he was in 2007. It's quantifiable data.

I still talk to Jacob through Facebook. He's helping me write one of my movies.

Disagree. Stated my reasons.