Theories of Reproducing

[VaniLLaKiLLah]

This is a list of my Theories of Reproducing:

Theory 1:
The Queens (Sam/Maggie/Skillya/...) are the only Females.
So: One Race= One Queen

Questions:
-Who's the father?
-Hermaphrodites? -> What do they need so many males for?
-If the Queen dies, die whole race would die out.

Theory 2:
Every tribe has its own queen. Sam is probably kidnapped by the Vykkers or Glkkons or whatever.


Theory 3:
They do it like humans do. Sam is just an experiment by the Vykkers, to produce many eggs.


Theory 4:
It's different from tribe to tribe. Some have Queens, some do it like humans do.

[Oddys]

Theorie A
-fertilization
-Females coulden't worked so hard like males
-The nature is hard...

I go with the Ant principle!

[Alcar]

Personally I believe that every species has a different reproducing system. However, I quite like the idea that certain species have a queen. I would however, like to see a highly developed species that must use cloning to reproduce, like the Azgard from Stargate. Not only does it touch on the iffy subject of cloning, which I believe would be quite a good concept for Oddworld to focus on (like slave labour, animal testing, etc), but I could envision the Vykkers doing so. Shame that they are Hermaphrodites.

Alcar...

[Havoc]

And what are those? Hermawhateverpodites...

[VaniLLaKiLLah]

@Havoc:
hybrids (both genders in one)

EDIT: translated at freetranslations.com

.:VaniLLaKiLLah:.

[Mac the Janitor]

It's been confirmed that in the mudokon reproduction system the queens are the only females...the common mudokons are the workers/drones, if you will.

[Fez]

Queens. So there are others?

[Shell Man]

I drew a picture of what a Vykker Queen might look like once. What a nightmare.

[the brew master]

i agree with oddys about the ant priciple

[Volsung]

It does sound like mudokons breed the same way ants do. There's always been some speculation as to whether or not Sam is the only queen or not. She's certainly the only Mud queen we know about. And I think I remember somewhere Lorne was quoted as saying the main species of oddworld were all based on insects. Speaking of which, does it look like Steef are the first mammals we've seen on Oddworld?

EDIT: Intelligent mammals. Meeps at least are probably mammals too.

[Dipstikk]

Just a side question, but does anyone think there is pimping and/or whoring on Oddworld?
*edit* Kicks self in the buttox for being the stupid.

[Majic]

Hermaphrodites. Heh, that came up in a Biology discussion today. Anyways, the Azgard? Gosh, the name is familiar. They were allies, but who were they again? I've slacked upon my SG1 watching, which may as well be a sin......

[VaniLLaKiLLah]

Well, ok. I thought about T2 and came up with the following idea:
Every tribe has its own Queen. So the Vykkers/Glukkon(or what the hell ever) may have kidnapped Sam from one of the tribes.
Sam wouldn't be the only Mudokon to give birth to the babies. So, if she dies the whole Mudokon popularity wouldn't die out.
Then I thought about the drone-thing, and came up with the following question:
What are Drones?
I think Drones are males and females(not fertiles) alike, who take care of the Queen.
That would be the ant principle.

.:VaniLLaKiLLah:.

[Oddys]

What are Drones?
I think Drones are males and females(not fertiles) alike,
.:VaniLLaKiLLah:.

One can do that converted again in such a way: There are none visible differentiated between females and males.

Drones are Worker.
Mudokons are the "Worker class" Oddworld.com call!
and:
As a worker class of the Mudokon super
species, Abe has no sexual organs.

No sexual organs! No sex! No repruducion under the worker class!

That confirm Theorie 1!

[VaniLLaKiLLah]

No sexual organs! No sex! No repruducion under the worker class!

That confirm Theorie 1!

nobody said that.
and that doesn't confirm T1!
:P

.:VaniLLaKiLLah:.

[Oddys]

nobody said that.
and that doesn't confirm T1!
:P

.:VaniLLaKiLLah:.

You can reproducion without organs for that?

[VaniLLaKiLLah]

and again: nobody said that there is reproduction under the worker class.
of course you can't if you don't have these special organs.

.:VaniLLaKiLLah:.

[Oddys]

You want more definition?
OK!
here:

I believe the Mudokons live in a kind of box system. Of my view whole of 2 box consists:

1: Worker caste
2. Queen caste

Worker caste provides for it that the Queen caste is supplied. The Queen caste is thus a kind of leader. The Queen caste provides for it it constantly enough regenerated in the box system gives. The Worker class again provides for the eggs, so that these slip. Abe belongs thereby to more worker class. It does not have sexual organs according to inhbaitants. Therefore a second gender would be redundant! The Queen caste is thus fertilizing! With the ants repeatedly a new Queen is born. Those fights then with the older Queen for the rule of the building. Similarly could run also with mudokons.

[VaniLLaKiLLah]

So, you're actually for T2.
queen caste: not only one queen, right?

.:VaniLLaKiLLah:.

[Oddys]

Not the onliest Queen!
One big Trunk - one Queen!

But the Mudokon Trunk on Mudos ist the one trunk we know!

[VaniLLaKiLLah]

What is when she dies?
the whole Mudokon popularity will die out.

.:VaniLLaKiLLah:.

[Oddys]

The popularity of the trunk we know will die!

possibly thus all!

[Alcar]

Anyways, the Azgard? Gosh, the name is familiar. They were allies, but who were they again?

The Azgard (my spelling of the species may be incorrect) were the cute, tiny and green aliens, with over-sized craniums. In order for them to reproduce, they had to infact not reproduce as defined by humans, but to clone themselves. With each clone they came closer to destroying themselves, as each clone's cells gained more and more imperfections each time a cloning was carried out.

Drones are Worker.
Mudokons are the "Worker class" Oddworld.com call!
and:
As a worker class of the Mudokon super
species, Abe has no sexual organs.

No sexual organs! No sex! No repruducion under the worker class!

Yes, that is correct. Which would tend to suggest that a higher class, or more evolved (or perhaps less evolved, think genetic engineering) species of Mudokons with sexual organs exist. The actual organs, however, may not be where, or what, traditional sexual organs are.

Alcar...

[VaniLLaKiLLah]

@Oddys:
trunk=tribe?
well if so, you can't say Sam is the only female!

.:VaniLLaKiLLah:.

[Oddys]

Trunk= Stamm (auf gut deutsch)

No I can't say this.
But I think so!

[VaniLLaKiLLah]

(alles klar, Kollege...)
but that's not logical, when Sam dies the whole Mudokon popularity wil DIE OUT!
plus: a mudokons avarenge life span is 40 years. and i don't think the mudokons popularity exists less than 40 years.

.:VaniLLaKiLLah:.

[Oddys]

Slowly I am confused...
I speak in momment only of the trunk, which we know. Whether the other trunks there are uch still Queens has, is unclear to me.
It's also unclear to me whether there are at all different trunks...
If one assumes however that it it gives, then Sam will be probably also not the only Queen. In addition, one cannot clarify that with theories.
We can employ assumptions in this thread only.
I have never said, Sam is the only Queen. I said only she is the one Queen we know. And to it that is clarified it still different Mudokon of trunks gives, assumes I, Sam the none is feminine. Anyhow until now.
Since the Queens is genetically differently conditioned than mudokons, it is also possible it longer lives.

[Alcar]

The Magog Cartel clearly wants to prolong the lifespan of the Mudokon Queen, as they have her tended to by a whole track of Shrinks (pun intended). How long she lives is a mystery to me, but I'd imagine she'd live longer than most Mudokons.

Alcar...

[paramiteabe]

Theres probabally more Mudokon queens out there scattered across Oddworld. But then again Mudokons are only native as we know to Mudos.

My theory is that if the queen dies, before she dies she naturally lays an egg with a new queen so that it can take her place when the old queen is dead. Like its part of the genetic makeup of the queen species. before they die they will birth to a new queen unless the queen is sick and the sickness somehow alters the genetic makeup of her birthing cycle.

I think thats how it works. Before a queen dies the genetic makeup of her birthing process simply makes the queen naturally give birth to a new queen thus keeping reproduction of the species from naturally dieing out from old age.

And I believe the same birthing cycle is in every queen not only Mudokons but Glukkons and sligs and so forth and so on.

Its also confirmed that there are a species with females and males. Look at the Clackerz. That Clacker was a female Clacker mentioned in the December's Daily Deception. So the theory is probabally deverse in all areas of reproduction. Oddworld most likely has everything.

[Oddys]

Times ago, I have ideas near this, but now, I don't believe in it...