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Game Of Thrones Season 6

Who else is pumped for tonight?

I tried my best to read A Dance with Dragons before the sixth season, but I'm kinda a slow reader, so I couldn't manage it.. on the last like, 200 pages I think. But I don't mind finishing it sometime this season. I'm really excited for the show tonight though, who'll be watching it?

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I've found this: http://www.billdowis.com/2014/06/11/...a-for-fanboys/
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lol Vlam posting a link to some review that corroborates your theory doesn't make it any more valid; it's the internet so there's bound to be someone else out there who believes the same insipid shit as you do. big whoop. to be fair whoever wrote that review seems to have the same short attention span as you do, for example:

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It took me about two weeks just to watch the first three episode.

Oh. My. God.

This series has a very slow start.

Where were the dragons and monsters and wizardry?

I almost gave up.

After the second episode I realized that this show was a LOT like the soap operas I have stumbled upon during day time television. There are lots of story lines running through the show following a huge cast of characters. The stories focus on character rather than plot or action. And it can take multiple episodes for things to develop.
after the second episode? the second episode? shut up, sit down and watch the fucking program. asking why nothing amazing has happened yet by the second episode is just impatient and pretty immature, and if you think like that then you probably won't enjoy the show anyway. go watch Power Rangers instead.

also: so what if GoT is classed as a soap opera, that doesn't mean it's shit. it's not on the same lines as Coronation Street/Eastenders/Neighbours etc which really are terrible soap operas. Breaking Bad and The Sopranos are a couple examples of good soap operas, and GoT is up there with them in my opinion.

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I've seen season 1.

You have the right to disagree with him. However, it's obvious that you don't try to understand him.

Breaking Bad and The Sopranos: the "soapy" elements could be justify. Guess why.
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I've seen season 1.

You have the right to disagree with him. However, it's obvious that you don't try to understand him.
i read the whole thing. from what i understand he thought it was a soap opera, liked it anyway but wanted the pacing to be faster. that's it. if i'm missing something, please tell me.

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Breaking Bad and The Sopranos: the "soapy" elements could be justify. Guess why.
i'd rather not. i'd rather you just told me and saved me from guessing because i have no idea how your bullshit logic works.
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Well, it isn't a Soap Opera, or I wouldn't really qualify it as one.

You define a Soap Opera by how the characters interact. The story is driven by their lives and the drama and story which happens within their life, the interactions and relationships between the characters. If you watch, or more specifically read the series (A Song of Ice and Fire, or A Game of Thrones, you'd understand why characters death is so prevalent, and why it's a necessary competent of storytelling for the writers.

We're not following characters lives, we're living through their perception to experience the larger story at hand. If their perception no longer has an important detail to contribute to the overall story, they either die, or we don't revisit. Sometimes we even lose a perception to insinuate a change of being. False narration also plays a large roll in the show and books, which is always an interesting story element.

Regardless, I could go into more detail about said story elements which are given via the point of views, but that kinda defeats the point of the series. I suggest watching/reading it, and learning for yourself. I find the article in question to simply be ignorant - which is a fair assumption, because he watched one episode.

Edit: Not that there are anything wrong with Soap Opera's, but this series on a fundamental level, isn't one. "It's a Soap Opera with swords, tits and dragons!" is an ignorant thing to assume, specially if you analyze the writing and storytelling.

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So that's the sixth time I'm going to say "Yeah I'll get around to watching it".
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So that's the sixth time I'm going to say "Yeah I'll get around to watching it".
I'm sure you will enjoy it.
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I mean, to be perfectly honest I'm not too interested in Game of Thrones anymore. There are some great moments every season. The Hardhome sequence, last year, was a very impressive piece of television action. But, really, there's only 10 episodes a year which only ever feels like enough time to check in with our characters rather than do any meaningful with them. The plot isn't interesting enough to carry the characters and the characters aren't interesting enough to carry the plot.

Then I watch a show like Better Call Saul - with minimal plot momentum - but I largely feel that character interactions are interesting enough that it carries the show.

Where the books succeed, I think, is its compelling character exploration. The plot momentum is even slower than the show but it doesn't really matter when it's characters and ideas are interesting. Perhaps now the show can get out from under the book's shadow it can tailor itself more to work as a 10 episode season.
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I watched the first episode today and whilst it was great, I'm of course left needing more. This is the thing with GoT, as Holy Sock says, the series needs to be double the length so that all the plot threads get the necessary amount of attention.
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I'm looking forward to Winds of Winter more than anything. That first episode of season six just confirmed my fears that the show writers haven't a clue what they are doing.

The Dorne story in the books was among my favorite, and seeing all of it botched in the show was just agonising.
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Oh, there'll be a speech alright. It'll just be from the bad pussay
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It's dialogue like this that kills me..
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Today's episode was enlightening.

I didn't expect another dick joke, honestly.
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This season has made me empathise with the two most evil characters in the show: Cersei and Melisandre. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing where it goes.

As for Jon Snow, as well acted as it was, the last scene in the episode followed far too many tropes for my liking. I hope the remainder of that plot doesn't proceed in the same way.
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I’m honestly just waiting for everything to go wrong with that plot thread. It’ll be something like it was some malevolent spirit they brought back in Jon’s body, or Jon is severely inhibited by having a corpse body, or maybe he just dies again in a couple of episodes. This show has trained me to expect nothing to go well for anyone.
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I’m honestly just waiting for everything to go wrong with that plot thread. It’ll be something like it was some malevolent spirit they brought back in Jon’s body...
See, when Lord Davos suggested it, my only thought was 'He really hasn't seen enough movies to know how badly this could go'.

As I said in my last post, I really hope they avoid the obvious tropes.
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This season has made me empathise with the two most evil characters in the show: Cersei and Melisandre. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing where it goes.
They're both great characters, but Cersei pisses me off still. I hope she dies soon.

Did anybody see episode 5? HOLD THE DOOR! Holy shit. It's so depressing to realise that Bran is responsible for taking away this innocent man's mind, in the past, present and future, seeing as he'll probably be resurrected by a Wight.
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I’m more interested in the outcome of Sansa’s dealings with Littlefinger. Is he genuine or leading her into a trap?
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Apparently he made a genuine mistake and although he's insanely manipulative he actually does feel remorseful.
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What's with all the spoiler tags? Surely anyone who doesn't want to read spoilers would avoid this thread like the plague?

I'm finally caught up so I can participate in this topic

Time paradoxes in Game of Thrones. Now I've really seen everything.
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It’s not really a time paradox though, since it’s a self-sustaining loop.


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Apparently he made a genuine mistake and although he's insanely manipulative he actually does feel remorseful.
I don’t trust that – Littlefinger is the most conniving politician around, he could very well just be saying that to lure Sansa into doing what he wants. I guess we’ll find out when Brienne checks things out.
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It’s not really a time paradox though, since it’s a self-sustaining loop.



I don’t trust that – Littlefinger is the most conniving politician around, he could very well just be saying that to lure Sansa into doing what he wants. I guess we’ll find out when Brienne checks things out.
No it's both. Pretty sure the writers confirmed that he's genuinely sorry. Remember, he does love Sansa in his own creepy way.
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No it's both. Pretty sure the writers confirmed that he's genuinely sorry. Remember, he does love Sansa in his own creepy way.
The writers have lied before.
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