Nintendo and Oddworld

[GlukkonGluk]

I read in a Nintendo mag the other day that some want a remake of AO and AE on DS. Is this possible or even desirable? I'm interested in your opinion on this. Thanks!

[sam250]

Graphics would, I imagine, have to be toned down a little, and I don't really see how you would use alot of the DSs features... obviously voice chat, if they can implement it well, and I suppose touch screen could be tapped for actions such as the bombs ect.

Seeing Oddworld out there more is always nice, but I would prefer that they make a new game. Prehaps a game in the style of the 2D Abe Games, but a new story?

[Leto]

If you mean what I think you mean, the only way it could be made for the DS is a) if the Oddworld Movie creates enough buzz for a franchise, or b)ported via homebrew, as the graphics would not have to be toned down at all, save for the resolution.

Don't rely on either.

[abe619]

It would be great if the gamespeak is made using the mic , and farting , and the other stuff would be made using the touch screen.

[Xx_Abe_xX]

I think that it would be a great idea. I mean, you can get AO and AE on the PSP, MO on the GBA, and AO and AE on the GB and GBC, so why not the DS. I mean, it would have a good touch and mic use. If this is true, I definitely want to be one of the first to get this game. However, as sam250 said, it would be nice if they included a new story.

[MeechShrykull1029]

You have a cool sig.

[Wil]

What the fuck? Are you really so dense that you haven’t picked up on the idea of spam? What has a sig to do with this thread? What has it to do with any thread? That is spam anywhere. You’re fucking unbelievable. I’m tired of your crap. Don’t PM me any more shit about your multi. Don’t call me favouritist because I don’t close some thread by a nobody that hasn’t even gone anywhere. Oh wait, you can’t, because this infraction makes you banned.

[Leto]

Max that's the angriest/sexiest I've seen you on these boards, ever.

I think that it would be a great idea. I mean, you can get AO and AE on the PSP, MO on the GBA, and AO and AE on the GB and GBC, so why not the DS.

Um, because they're completely different systems, with different ways of programming games into them, are owned by different companies and have completely different styles of control.

I mean, come on. Because it can be on most systems, doesn't mean it's just magically going to appear on all of them.

[Havoc]

Dear god he just went Super Max on his ass XD

[sam250]

Max that's the angriest/sexiest I've seen you on these boards, ever.



Um, because they're completely different systems, with different ways of programming games into them, are owned by different companies and have completely different styles of control.

I mean, come on. Because it can be on most systems, doesn't mean it's just magically going to appear on all of them.

There is somthing about the multiplatform system that we have in place for consoles that has always annoyed me. If you want to watch a DVD, everybody likey have at least 2 or 3 differant machines that can do that in their house. If you want to play a game, you must have one specific machine out of 3 that can do that.

Every game that can be, should, in my opinion, be multiplatform. It's makes sense for everyone.

The points that Lorne brought up in that interview about consoles being a probem were completly true.

[Leto]

That makes for no console specific games, which are consoles only selling points.

There should be no races, only grey people, because it would make dancing more universal etc

[sam250]

That makes for no console specific games, which are consoles only selling points.

There should be no races, only grey people, because it would make dancing more universal etc

It's not the consoles, but the games, that keep things colourful. Multiple platforms serves only to alianate people who arn't familiar with the system, and give childish whelps like DarKo somthing to argue about.

[Xavier]

Yeah, playstation isn't very different then xbox... the reason they are both on the market is because of the exclusivities.

Make everythin multiplatform and one of them has to disappear.

[sam250]

Think of them as if they were two differant models of DVD player. Both of them would have their own exclusive features, but everyone can now play the games. Why should I have to buy both a PS3 and an XBox360 if I want to play Metal Gear Solid 4 and Halo 3 or Gears of War (and who wouldn't want to play all of them, really?). Final Fantasy XIII, Grand Theft Auto 4, Mirror's Edge... all of these games will be available for everyone to play. That's how it should always be.

Even if one consoles did push out the other out a) another company would come along anyway, and b) It would be a small price to pay for all of the games in one place.

[Leto]

You're not thinking about the sales or the advertising. In terms of marketing, console fanboys are exactly what is wanted. If you have mindless supporters of a product, aa-weeyHEEEEY you got yourself some dollars.

Even if there was one universal console, someone would make a different console just because they can. See: PC vs Mac.

[Wings of Fire]

More importantly to us: Monopolization/complacency = stagnation while diversity/pressure = better games and better systems.

In the same way that humans evolved into more complex organisms to fit their climate and ideas become more complex to deal with critical thinking so to do consoles and first party games become better suited to the customers needs, in conjunction with the two companies both trying to undercut each other it ensures the only real winner is us, the consumers.

For instance: First and Second Party Games = Usually excellent
Third Party Games = Some excellent titles but the majority is a wide mix between merely good and terrible.

[Clakker Shooter]

There's a Sony and Oddworld thread AND a Nintendo and Oddworld thread. Is this Buzzy another account of GlukkonGluk? Because I've looked through old thread titles and there's no other thread with a title like this. Anyway, here's what I think of it: You might think the DS is the best platform for a 2D Oddworld game, because of the way there are so much good 2D games on the DS. Yes, these games are good, but do they resemble Oddworld in any way? Most 2D games don't resemble Oddworld, but the PSP is a better platform for a 2D Oddworld game, because:
1. The DS' graphics. People rarely judge games based on the graphics, but we're talking about Oddworld, not a regular 2D adventure. Sure Abe's Oddysee and Abe's Exoddus don't have very good graphics, but their graphics are enough to make the game look mysterious. The DS' cartoony graphics aren't. PSP has perfect graphics to make you think something mysterious is going on in those backgrounds.
2. The length of DS games. One thing that is known about the 2D Oddworld games, is that they use up as much disk space as possible. Abe's Exoddus even needed 2 disks. Now, think about where you can put more data: into a DS cartridge, or into a PSP UMD?
3. The intros. The PSP can make even better Oddworld-style intros than the PlayStation. Imagine viewing a dark, mysterious jungle, full of Paramites, in 3D. Is that possible on the DS?

Read this post and respond with what you think about what I just said.

[Leto]

1: The DS isn't responsible for games having cartoony looks. It has a screen resolution of 256x192. to demonstrate my point, here is an Oddworld screenshot lowered to this resolution:



Not a huge log in detail, especially for a portable version of a game. I'm sure, if it were a game tailored specifically to the console, that they could achieve striking visuals.

2: Compression. DS has a lower resolution, and as such, wouldn't need as much space to hold raw video/image files.

Currently, on the market, game catridges can hold a maximum of 2 GB, which is actually 200mb larger than the PSP's 1.8GB UMD.

3: Yes, yes it is possible, given it would be an FMV instead of actualy gameplay. Even ingame, it is still possible, as the DS boasts the ability to display decent 3D images (though, with most of the games on the market, this is not taken advantage of).

There.

[Xx_Abe_xX]

You have a cool sig.

Me? If so, thanks...

Yeah, playstation isn't very different then xbox... the reason they are both on the market is because of the exclusivities.

Make everythin multiplatform and one of them has to disappear.

Just because people want to see these games on the DS doesn't mean that they want it to be multiplatform, well, it sorta does... Anyway, the reason most people want to see these games on the DS is because of the numerous features it could have. Think about the Gamespeak mic use and all that. AO and AE would have great uses for the DS. The top screen could show the status(Employees, escapees and casualties) and the bottom screen could be the gameplay. You could use the touch screen to deactivate mines and what not. So, all in all, the DS would make a great platform for AO and AE.

[Wil]

Please don’t double post, Xx_Abe. I’ve merged your posts here, but in the future please use the Multi-Quote button to incorporate responses to multiple quotes into a single post.

And not a wise idea responding to something I’ve publicly decried as spam. =/

[Jordan]

AO and AE on the DS aren't bad ideas. They could work quite well if used correctly. Mic as gamespeak though, sounds a little difficult. I think it's been discussed before, but how would Abe fart?

In terms of the touch screen, it could be used to choose a possession target, or to zap things when transforming to Shrykull.

[Crashpunk]

sound good.
that magazine was the offical nintendo magazine right?

[GlukkonGluk]

Yeah. It probably won't happen, it was just on a page where a load of people post in to say what they'd like to see. A big picture of Abe caught my attention. By the way, the "Sony and Oddworld" thread was a complete coincidence that I posted at the same time

[Xx_Abe_xX]

Please don’t double post, Xx_Abe. I’ve merged your posts here, but in the future please use the Multi-Quote button to incorporate responses to multiple quotes into a single post.

And not a wise idea responding to something I’ve publicly decried as spam. =/

Sorry about both of those, Max, I didn't know about that button, well, I knew about it, but not what it did. But, I still think that the DS could give Oddworld a big break...