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01-29-2016, 09:55 AM
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Relativism must be overcome. Moreover, that's why some of you are skeptical about Oddworld games or movies without Lanning (who defines Oddworld).
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"Relativism must be overcome" is probably the most pretentious sentence I've ever read. And I did Philosophy in 12th grade.
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If your story hinges on understanding an alien culture it makes more sense revealing that to your audience in ways that they find easier to process and understand. A short video clip of a living creature in motion conveys information about it far more effectively than a text summary.
I disagree. Thinking about this subject, Watership Down was able to convey a world from the perspective of rabbits very effectively, and while they're a far cry from aliens, their culture is not inherently human, even if it draws many parallels.

You mentioned Lord of the Rings as including different species of human-like characters, well I'd argue that Oddworld's species, at least the core group of them (muds, gluks, etc) are easily comparable to human cultures, perhaps more so than Tolkien, at least in a modern sense. Abe was created to be the most humanoid character for that purpose, so he was relatable to the audience, and Oddworld's cultures are merely archetypical of our own.

With that being said, I would still be more than ecstatic seeing a fully-fledged movie of Oddworld in the same style as the original FMVs.

On the subject of 'real canon' though, you're the first person I've seen online who actually understands the concept of a relative canon, Manco. Kudos.
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I respect Lanning for his past work on Abe's Oddysee/Exoddus but I don't think that his artistic involvement in upcoming Oddworld projects is absolutely necessary. The quality is what matters, not names. If he's still able to deliver a fresh and at least distantly original view on Oddworld universe without excessive citation of past works - that's good. If it's not the case it may better to let others try and do it or put Oddworld theme aside and try something else, something new, something that doesn't have artistically-constraining 'weight' of an established piece of intellectual property.
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I didn't know about this version. Interesting!
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Ok Nate, I didn't know. But the Abe you described is totally different from the games, so what about the canon ?
I think that if the films were to occur, we'd have to accept that there are multiple canons in the Oddworld universe.

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I don't understand. I mean, isn't Oddworld supposed to be one cohesive universe ? Furthermore, it might confuse the people.
I think a good comparison would be the Marvel universe - there's a movie/live-action TV universe, several comic book universes, and an animated TV show universe. The same stories have been told in several, with a number of subtle and not-so-subtle differences. But each one is (retcons aside) a cohesive universe.
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OK, Nate. But do you think the comparison with the Marvel universe is good ? I don't think so, because : 1. The original creator of the character(s) is dead. 2 - It's changing a lot to fit with our time.

It's strange because some of you don't accept the idea of Oddworld without Lanning (but at the same time, it's not a big deal for other series). Two weights, two measures ?

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OK, Nate. But do you think the comparison with the Marvel universe is good ? I don't think so, because : 1. The original creator of the character(s) is dead. 2 - It's changing a lot to fit with our time.
As far as I can tell, Stan Lee is credited as the creator of the Marvel universe, and he’s still alive. Your second point is very vague, but Oddworld as a series isn’t nearly as old as Marvel and thus hasn’t yet needed to change as much to stay relevant.
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As far as I can tell, Stan Lee is credited as the creator of the Marvel universe, and he’s still alive. Your second point is very vague, but Oddworld as a series isn’t nearly as old as Marvel and thus hasn’t yet needed to change as much to stay relevant.
Marvel has a lot of writers and will continue after Stan Lee's death. Marvel universe is supposed to be set in our world (for example, Spiderman isn't in the sixties anymore) unlike Oddworld.
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OK, Nate. But do you think the comparison with the Marvel universe is good ? I don't think so, because : 1. The original creator of the character(s) is dead. 2 - It's changing a lot to fit with our time.
None of that was my point. What I was saying is that the games and films would be set in different canon. Just like the comics and the films are in different canon. Because they have to be.
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